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Guest 09-24-2009 08:50 AM

Extreme again!
 
Let's get one thing clear... I don't "hate" Sarah Palin, I don't even know Sarah Palin. I don't even "hate" that she's pouncing on her 15 min. of fame to make all the money she can! Actually, I rarely use the word "hate" at all. I didn't say "never", I said "rarely".

What I do dislike is the feeling that some Americans are slipping -- setting the bar way to low. I was honestly shocked that the Republican party was not up in arms when McCain named her as his running mate. I did have much more respect for the right-wing before that. That is also, when many of my Republican friends and family, decided they could not, in all good conscience, vote Republican in the last election.

Wow, you talk about liberals being starry-eyed over President Obama! Ha! That was nothing compared to the adoration for this inadequate woman I saw come from the right-wing. She looked like a fool on national television, she looked like a hate-monger at the rallies... I'm sorry I just don't get it.

Again, let me say this simply -- I think Sarah Palin is inadequate. Does that sound like a hateful sentence? You won't like it because you sound like you all believe she is. Just because I have an opposite opinion, doesn't mean I hate. I don't hate. But, I do see an awful lot of it coming from right-wing extremists! Now, if you can't admit that to even yourselves, there's something reeeeeeeally wrong. Why even your posts back to me, sound as if you hate me! I don't think that's the case. You just oppose or disagree with me. Fine! That's what makes America, America.

Bucco, I have posted my views on Health Care, Afghanastan, and the economy here and there, quite a few times. Perhaps you just don't chose to read them. As far as frauds go, they're on both sides of the aisle. Plain and simple. The next election will tell the tale. I would like to see Nancy Pelosi gone. And Cashman, I don't know what liberal shows you think are failing... perhaps there are, but I'm a CNN junkie and Meet the Press, and I don't believe either of those are liberal or slanted to the left.

Now, if you'll excuse me, it's a clear day in The Villages. I'm going to see if I can spot Alaska from my backyard.:laugh:

Guest 09-24-2009 09:20 AM

The Dixie Chicks are entertainers. While they enjoy the same right to free speech all Americans have, there is a consequence to including partisanship in their act on stage. It is exacerbated further by their verbal political attacks abroad. That consequence is that the country is politically divided and those that disagree with their unqualified criticism can stop buying their records and voice their displeasure about use or abuse of their celebrity status. In essence the Chicks have ticked off half the public and their potential market, not a great business move.

Sarah Palin is a politician who lives in the arena of politics. It is expected that she would be partisan and her ideological enemies like Chelsea are gleefully eager to attack anything she says or does. She also has a very large conservative base that supports her. She turns out bigger crowds than any Republican candidate. Time will tell whether she will win over moderates and the possibility that she may, has the lunatic left in a snit and ready to criticize anything she does. Cologal, the point is Palin is within her political element and the Chicks are not. Politicians don't really care about controversy or bad press as long as their name is spelled right in the newspaper. They don't sell records.

BTW, I remember more than a few "entertainers" Streisand, Baldwin, et al swearing they would "have their passports" ready to move abroad if "W" was elected. He was and their still here.

Guest 09-24-2009 09:27 AM

Getting the paasport and leaving if _ __ _ _ fill in the blank
 
is akin to telling your kids if you do that one more time I'm gonna rip yer head off....means nothing and provides an outlet for the speaker.....ONLY!

btk

Guest 09-24-2009 10:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226585)
Let's get one thing clear... I don't "hate" Sarah Palin, I don't even know Sarah Palin. I don't even "hate" that she's pouncing on her 15 min. of fame to make all the money she can! Actually, I rarely use the word "hate" at all. I didn't say "never", I said "rarely".

What I do dislike is the feeling that some Americans are slipping -- setting the bar way to low. I was honestly shocked that the Republican party was not up in arms when McCain named her as his running mate. I did have much more respect for the right-wing before that. That is also, when many of my Republican friends and family, decided they could not, in all good conscience, vote Republican in the last election.

Wow, you talk about liberals being starry-eyed over President Obama! Ha! That was nothing compared to the adoration for this inadequate woman I saw come from the right-wing. She looked like a fool on national television, she looked like a hate-monger at the rallies... I'm sorry I just don't get it.

Again, let me say this simply -- I think Sarah Palin is inadequate. Does that sound like a hateful sentence? You won't like it because you sound like you all believe she is. Just because I have an opposite opinion, doesn't mean I hate. I don't hate. But, I do see an awful lot of it coming from right-wing extremists! Now, if you can't admit that to even yourselves, there's something reeeeeeeally wrong. Why even your posts back to me, sound as if you hate me! I don't think that's the case. You just oppose or disagree with me. Fine! That's what makes America, America.

Bucco, I have posted my views on Health Care, Afghanastan, and the economy here and there, quite a few times. Perhaps you just don't chose to read them. As far as frauds go, they're on both sides of the aisle. Plain and simple. The next election will tell the tale. I would like to see Nancy Pelosi gone. And Cashman, I don't know what liberal shows you think are failing... perhaps there are, but I'm a CNN junkie and Meet the Press, and I don't believe either of those are liberal or slanted to the left.

Now, if you'll excuse me, it's a clear day in The Villages. I'm going to see if I can spot Alaska from my backyard.:laugh:

Ok....all I said was..

"It is quite interesting that if you want participation on this forum simply start a thread about Sarah Palin !

Health care, Afghanastan, economy get no play...just mention Palin and all of a sudden..... "


Never mentioned your name or even implied it. I just find it interesting that if PALIN is in the thread title, there will be more lookers and posts than on anything else, no matter how important. My post had nothing to do with Palin, pro or con...just an observation.

And on your posts, I read all posts....never thought it was wise to ignore anyone !

Guest 09-24-2009 10:32 AM

Still, as usual, no response on issues or priorities!!!!!
 
Amazingly consistent. Not just on this forum. Other forums, and in day to day discussions. It is always a yah but and the issues are rarely if ever addressed.

btk

Guest 09-24-2009 11:36 AM

what do we see in her?
 
without insulting anyone or commenting on adequacy or inadequacy in the public arena, i think that what so many conservative americans see in sarah palin is an honest, down to earth american woman who clearly loves her country and state and is so proud of our american heritage, when in contrast in pres. obama, we see someone who does not really love america the way we do, wants to change to a direction we do not like, and is also inadequate in experience but in a more dangerous way....you may not agree with this assessment of obama but that is how i see him and millions of conservatives do also....we want a leader who LOVES AMERICA!!! as for not thinking CNN and meet the press are slanted to the left, i used to say that, also, until i started getting the OTHER side of the story from fox, the things i never heard about on the main media...it would behoove some to force themselves to listen, really listen, even if they do not agree, so that they can understand why conservatives feel the way we do....we certainly are forced to listen to the liberal side in all the regular news channels every time we turn on our tv...and that is a good education....know both sides....

Guest 09-24-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226551)
Maines, a native of Lubbock, Texas, got herself into trouble last week when she told a London audience, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

This was a direct attack on the President, even if she did not say his name. Sarah Palin by contrast, "She didn't criticize. I was waiting to see if she said anything derogatory about Obama, and she didn't."

In your initial post you stated, "So now Palin slams the Obama administration in Hong Kong, that would be out of the United States, so where is the outrage?" I have cited the AP story that said that this never happened. What is your source for your claim? MSNBC?

A direct attack? LOL

Guest 09-24-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226589)
The Dixie Chicks are entertainers. While they enjoy the same right to free speech all Americans have, there is a consequence to including partisanship in their act on stage. It is exacerbated further by their verbal political attacks abroad. That consequence is that the country is politically divided and those that disagree with their unqualified criticism can stop buying their records and voice their displeasure about use or abuse of their celebrity status. In essence the Chicks have ticked off half the public and their potential market, not a great business move.

Sarah Palin is a politician who lives in the arena of politics. It is expected that she would be partisan and her ideological enemies like Chelsea are gleefully eager to attack anything she says or does. She also has a very large conservative base that supports her. She turns out bigger crowds than any Republican candidate. Time will tell whether she will win over moderates and the possibility that she may, has the lunatic left in a snit and ready to criticize anything she does. Cologal, the point is Palin is within her political element and the Chicks are not. Politicians don't really care about controversy or bad press as long as their name is spelled right in the newspaper. They don't sell records.

BTW, I remember more than a few "entertainers" Streisand, Baldwin, et al swearing they would "have their passports" ready to move abroad if "W" was elected. He was and their still here.


Cabo...you know I respect your opinion. My only point is the response to what the Dixie Chicks said was way over the top. They had a right to say what they said without being called UnAmerican..Unpatriotic and to receive death threats. Free speech is Free speech by a politician or entertainer. In the country or out of the country....public or private.Notice I didn't say anything about what happened to their fan base. Heard any new Dixie Chick songs lately? That's what happens when you upset the majority of your fan base.

I don't hate Sarah Palin but she sure didn't replace Hillary in my mind. I was and still am a Hillary girl. "Also Callaway"

Guest 09-24-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226605)
without insulting anyone or commenting on adequacy or inadequacy in the public arena, i think that what so many conservative americans see in sarah palin is an honest, down to earth american woman who clearly loves her country and state and is so proud of our american heritage, when in contrast in pres. obama, we see someone who does not really love america the way we do, wants to change to a direction we do not like, and is also inadequate in experience but in a more dangerous way....you may not agree with this assessment of obama but that is how i see him and millions of conservatives do also....we want a leader who LOVES AMERICA!!! as for not thinking CNN and meet the press are slanted to the left, i used to say that, also, until i started getting the OTHER side of the story from fox, the things i never heard about on the main media...it would behoove some to force themselves to listen, really listen, even if they do not agree, so that they can understand why conservatives feel the way we do....we certainly are forced to listen to the liberal side in all the regular news channels every time we turn on our tv...and that is a good education....know both sides....

I thought I would bite but No. But I will say this when I was a kid, 10, JFK ran for office. To me, an Irish Catholic kid, he was a God. As I got older and went to college I had to study history...he will always had God-like status but I know his warts. Same with Hillary....the problem I see with some conservatives is they never see the warts or maybe they won't admitt them.

I love America but oppose war...doesn't mean I love America any less than you do. Just differently....

I to listen to several sources for the news even Fox until I start endangering my TV.

Guest 09-24-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226618)
I thought I would bite but No. But I will say this when I was a kid, 10, JFK ran for office. To me, an Irish Catholic kid, he was a God. As I got older and went to college I had to study history...he will always had God-like status but I know his warts. Same with Hillary....the problem I see with some conservatives is they never see the warts or maybe they won't admitt them.

I love America but oppose war...doesn't mean I love America any less than you do. Just differently....

I to listen to several sources for the news even Fox until I start endangering my TV.

Funny......the problem you see with conservatives I SEE WITH BOTH PARTIES !!

I am admittely someone who was strongly opposed to our current Presidents election and remain opposed to MOST of his policies !!! I, however, have also crticized ON THIS BOARD the past President and his party !

As for Fox...all the networks are bias...if you cannot see that you are not paying attention ! The problem is that they merge news with commentary and folks have no idea of that they are watching anymore and think the commentary is NEWS..it is not !

I try real hard to stay away from all the cable news channels because it is NOT NEWS for the most part but commentary.

Fox, in fact, was born out of the left bias on other outlets and made or makes no bones about that and for what it is worth continues to totally dominate the cable networks If you have ever watched MSNBC especially at night, you are tuning into the hard left wing of the Democratic party but that also gets left undiscussed. This is not a defense of Fox or anything like it...just a statement of fact !

Try the newspapers and CSPAN.....there is in fact TWO sides to every story but first you have to learn WHAT THE STORY is !!!!

Guest 09-24-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226621)
Funny......the problem you see with conservatives I SEE WITH BOTH PARTIES !!

I am admittedly someone who was strongly opposed to our current Presidents election and remain opposed to MOST of his policies !!! I, however, have also criticized ON THIS BOARD the past President and his party !

As for Fox...all the networks are bias...if you cannot see that you are not paying attention ! The problem is that they merge news with commentary and folks have no idea of that they are watching anymore and think the commentary is NEWS..it is not !

I try real hard to stay away from all the cable news channels because it is NOT NEWS for the most part but commentary.

Fox, in fact, was born out of the left bias on other outlets and made or makes no bones about that and for what it is worth continues to totally dominate the cable networks If you have ever watched MSNBC especially at night, you are tuning into the hard left wing of the Democratic party but that also gets left undiscussed. This is not a defense of Fox or anything like it...just a statement of fact !

Try the newspapers and CSPAN.....there is in fact TWO sides to every story but first you have to learn WHAT THE STORY is !!!!


Here's the issue ....in my post I admitted that Kennedy had "warts" I also said I knew that about Hillary. No one would ever think me a conservative

Guest 09-24-2009 06:20 PM

I don't see where Sara Palin attacked the President of the U.S. At a conference in Hong Kong she gave her opinion on the causes of the economic collapse that is of concern to all free thinking people, like the people of Hong Kong. She decried big-government policies that drag down the markets instead of correcting them. She then went on to explain her belief in conservative principles that spur business growth and pointed to the successes of Reaganism in accomplishing that, in her view. Get a grip Liberals. You won the election. Quit fighting the same old tired fight. You're losing your grip on reality, and with any luck, soon also your grip on our once great nation.

Guest 09-24-2009 10:11 PM

Speaking of not owning up to those in power and their warts...
 
does anybody see any warts on Obama? Not owning up to admitting warts is by far.....not a conservative vice.....just review the posts on this forum for a peek at, shall we say, other than the conservative!!!

btk

Guest 09-24-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 226701)
does anybody see any warts on Obama? Not owning up to admitting warts is by far.....not a conservative vice.....just review the posts on this forum for a peek at, shall we say, other than the conservative!!!

btk

I wish the only problem was warts.

Yoda

Guest 09-25-2009 12:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 226614)
A direct attack? LOL

Colagal, what will it take for you to give up the cutesy lines ending with LOL, and actually discuss the issue using logic and facts?


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