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Posted by Guest (Post 413039)

First 50% black president...........just saying..the first black president will ne Herman Cain.

With the accusations facing him. :wave:

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Posted by Guest (Post 413029)

Number 1 on your list should of been "First Black President"

...why so focused on race...?

Barack Hussein Obama is half white. Mr. Cain does not have the cream in his coffee.

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Posted by Guest (Post 413039)

First 50% black president...........just saying..the first black president will ne Herman Cain.

Uh - Oh .... looks like there is trouble in pizzaland....

In an interview airing on Fox News on Monday night, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain says that a financial settlement was paid to one of two women who accused him of sexual harassment while he was serving as head of the National Restaurant Association over a decade ago.

However, in responding to the accusations in question earlier in the day, the former Godfather's Pizza CEO said, "I have never sexually harassed anyone and those accusations are totally false ... It was concluded, after a thorough investigation, that it had no basis." He added, "I am unaware of any sort of settlement."

Herman, we hardly knew ye..........

"Bush Derangement Syndrome" is at it's peak again. You guys are hilarious.

I thought Clinton was the first black president. He said so, himself.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...5/170824.shtml

I see all the racists who accused Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment are now putting the white robes on again and accusing Herman Cain of similar activity. More white men afraid of a black man. You Democrat racists are shameless. Must you use your fear of a strong black man to band together and try to "lynch" him.

if the masses and the media that support(ed) Obama could accept/forget/bypass/ignore so called "unacceptable" actions/behaviors/accusations, then anybody else in the running should be entitled to the same tolerances and go-no-go gauging.

Didja ever wonder how these negative nuggets from 10, 20, 30 or more years ago just mysteriously bubble to the surface.....NOW?

btk

Really.. I don't even have to do ANY research to debunk a few of those.. But let's take just a few easy pickings...

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Posted by Guest (Post 412946)

First President to refuse to show a valid Birth Certificate.

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner
First President to have a social security number from a state he's never lived in
First President to Preside over a Cut to the Credit Rating of the United States Government
First President to Violate the War Powers Act

First President to Orchestrate the Sale of Murder Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels
First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing Oil Drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
First President to Defy a Federal Judge's Court Order to Cease Implementing the 'Health Care Reform' Law
First President to Require All Americans to Purchase a Product From a Third Party
First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs-- and Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs
First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of Companies to His Union Supporters
First President to Bypass Congress and Implement the DREAM Act Through Executive Fiat
First President to "Order a Secret Amnesty Program that Stopped the Deportations of Illegal Immigrants Across the US , Including Those With Criminal Convictions"
First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of His Political Appointees
First President to Terminate America's Ability to Put a Man into Space
First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at Polling Places
First President to Have a Law Signed By an 'Auto-pen' Without Being "Present"
First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional and Refuse to Enforce It
First President to Threaten Insurance Companies if they Publicly Speak out on the Reasons for their Rate Increases
First President to Tell a Major Manufacturing Company In Which State They Are Allowed to Locate a Factory
First President to File Lawsuits Against the States He Swo re an Oath to Protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN, etc)
First President to Withdraw an Existing Coal Permit That Had Been Properly Issued Years Ago
First President to Fire an Inspector General of Ameri-corps for Catching One of His Friends in a Corruption Case
First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose Their Political Contributions to bid on Government Contracts
First President to appoint 45 'czars' to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to Golf 73 separate Times in His First Two-and-a-Half Years in Office
First President to hide his medical, educational, and travel records
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it
First President to coddle America's enemies while alienating America's allies
First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the US flag
First President to go on multiple Global apology tours.
First President to go on 17 'vacations', including 'date nights' paid for by the taxpayer.

Birth certificate? Here:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/28...mixed-results/
...seems to indicate it's never been an issue. Carter, for one, never provided his.

Social Security Number? Can come from anywhere depending on where it's processed.

War Powers Act? Seems to me Bush violated it as well if you're using Iraq as an example - otherwise NATO operations (Libya) aren't covered by it.

...and the PRESIDENT orchestrated 'Fast and Furious'?

Contempt of Court? Yes, in the Gulf Oil case - but the administration is hardly the first to be held in contempt.

Terminating American men in space? Umm.. That was BUSH who signed that order!

Cut in the Credit Rating? Because CONGRESS can't get it's act together.

Vacations?

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CBS Radio's Mark Knoller has kept track of presidential vacations for years and supplied the data.

So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

That's just what I could do in less than ten minutes.

If you want to be taken seriously, you have build a house of bricks, not straw.

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Posted by Guest (Post 412785)

a few times, and it truly makes sense.

It's what we have in Washington, DC.

Finally, a way to describe Obama and his voters.

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc�-ra-cy): A system of government where the
least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing,
and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves
or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the
confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

I don't know who wrote this but it sure hit the nail on the head with the current administration and many of the past administrations.

Amen brother........"You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it".

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.�

~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931- 2005

Winston Churchill had a profound take on socialism that validates your point that while "Ineptocracy"' is contempory in nature...the problem is not new.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
-- Winston Churchill

The leftists among us will never get it. Sadly, they selectively forget the blood and treasure we sacrificed fighting ideologies that have at their very core..."redistribution of wealth".

Have a great day in The Villages.

Cabo35, I wish I could take credit for that defination, but I found it on the web. Could not come up with who wrote it, maybe someone can who does more research. But thought that it described not only the current administration, but goes way back to the Great Society, Social Security and other government give away programs, to include the unconstitutinal creation of the FED.

What most people forget is that communism, socialism and the rest of the ism's work really great until they run out of other peoples money. The United States did not defeat the USSR, the USSR defeated themselves by running out of money. That is what will happen to this country if we don't stop spending on programs that do nothing to create wealth, like NAFTA, CAFTA and unfunded by worker pension/medical care funds. Everyone believes that military retirees get unfunded pensions, but if you look at the difference in pay for the same jobs, vs military to civilian, you will see that military pensions are actually funded by the lower wages. I would not have had any problem with the government withholding a portion of my salary if it was equal to what a civilian worker got for the same job.

An example is the government sent me to a beautiful foreign country, to meet exotic and wonderful people, who shot at me. Show me a civilian job that has the same description for the huge monthly salary of $108 per month, I was a PFC at the time, and then we will talk about pensions for the military that are, so called unfunded by worker contributions.

Figmo keeps talking about the �108 - this is a European keyboard - he made as a PFC. That was 40-some years ago. Currently, a PFC makes fairly good money plus benefits. Most soldiers get to the E-4 or E-5 level in their first 3 or 4 years. They make a decent salary plus excellent benefits. Lifers usually retire at the E-7 or E-8 and have excellent salaries plus excellent benefits. This is their choice of a career.

Yes, Junior Bush was the most inept President in history. No doubt in the history books about that.

PFC gets $1729.80 a month and this is NOT good wages if you are getting shot at. Sorry, buggyone, but that PFC today, the same as 40 years ago, with a family still qualifies for food stamps.

Another thing, military members have to spend 20 plus years to get a pension. Criminal "career politicans" only need to spend one term to get full pay pensions plus medical care.

Who do you want protecting you? Just wondering.

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Posted by Guest (Post 414542)

Another thing, military members have to spend 20 plus years to get a pension. Criminal "career politicans" only need to spend one term to get full pay pensions plus medical care.

Who do you want protecting you? Just wondering.

Figmo - assuming you're talking about Congress, it is no longer true that they get full pensions afterone term. In fact that hasn't been the case since the 1980s if I remember what I read the last time a list of Congress' excesses was making the rounds. (Among other things, they DO pay into Social Security and have sone so since around 1984).

Congress is now in the FERS system - which is the exact same system that I and my employer (the USAF) pay into.

from wikipedia.

The pension amount is determined by a formula that takes into account the years served and the average pay for the top three years in terms of payment. In 2002, the average pension payment ranged from $41,000 to $55,000. For example, a member of Congress who worked for 22 years and had a top three-year average salary of $153,900 would be eligible for a pension payment of $84,645 per year.[3]

This is to supplement social security.

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Posted by Guest (Post 414953)

So how long to they have to work before their vested in their pension?

FERS kind of has two parts. You have to have 20 years to get a pension from FERS (at least civilians do - I think some rules are different for active duty military) and the amount ends up being your number of years as a percentage (put in 22 years, you get 22%) of what your average base pay was for your final three years. Mind you, you get your BASE pay used - not any adjustments for location (i.e. I work in the Boston area so I get a 24% bump - San Francisco and New York, as example, are higher).

The second part is a 401K-like "TSP". Currently, I'm putting in 5% of my pay and the government is matching it (I get vested in either 1 or 3 years, I forget which). The primary difference between this and a 401K is that you only have a choice of a few index or bond funds to choose from.

One big change that happened some time ago but lives on in urban legends is that you can no longer use your accumulated sick time as a big retirement bonus. You lose your sick time at the end of your working days. HOWEVER - there is still one bonus. *If* you have enough sick time when you retire that using it would have bumped you across another 'year boundary', you can have your pension affected. In other words, if you worked those 22 years BUT had enough sick time that you COULD have made it to 23 years, you would get 23% instead of 22%.