Not A Chance
 

There is no possible chance that the GOP can gain a cloture-proof majority in the Senate. Current polls and projections have them gaining the majority, with 51 seats. That will give them the right to set the legislative agenda, get the committee chairs, and have their leader get most of the soundbites--Lordy, I hope it's someone other than Mitch McConnell. But like the Republicans do now to the Democratic majority, the Democrats can pretty much block any vote the GOP majority would like to put up for a full vote.

I'm afraid we might be looking at another four years of legislative gridlock. Except when it comes to more spending bills!

Right On, Coach!
 

I sure wish the Democrats would stop patting themselves on the back, and the Republicans stop yelling about repealing the whole Act, and get together to design changes to some obviously weak and ill-conceived parts of the legislation.

Of course, what will stand in the way of that will be the partisan hatred each party has for the other. And more importantly, the lobbyists for various clients who want lots of the individual parts kept intact, even though they may weaken and make more expensive the bill as a whole.

Some parts are good.But look what it has done and is doing to working people now.Ask your children that are working how much their Ins payroll deductions have went up.In some cases 60% or more in last 2 yrs.Also ask them to check out of pocket costs those have went up a lot.Our er copay had been $75 a yr last went to $100 this year $250, The costs are hurting people who can least afford it.We will pay more and get less.Example my prostate surgery 3 yrs ago my out of pocket less then 1k.Shoulder out patient surgery 3 months ago more then 3k. And Prostate surgery was more then triple the amount billed to ins. co.My children and yours will never have the life style that all of us have had because we just pile more on them

Didn't Obama and the democrats argue profusely back in 2009 that the mandate was not a tax?

According to the court it is. A massive one at that.

Obama and the libs lie again...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/09/obama-mandate-is-not-a-tax/

If we can afford to give the wealthy two massive tax CUTS - and if we can afford 2 wars - and if we can afford spending billions and billions looking for non existent, imaginary WMD's, then we can afford health care for our OWN people.

:boxing2:

I have been paying Social Security taxes for years with no benefit to me personally. If I die before I will have paid those taxes any never receive any benefit. But the reason it works is that all of us have to participate in the program....

The system is broken mainly because the free markets have failed...the insurance companies want to minimize there risk and therefore maximize profits, US corporations want to unburden themselves of healthcare costs and the result is anyone with health issues cannot get affordable healthcare in the open market. This includes me.....

It has been argued, on this website, that "we" shouldn't have to pay for abortions, birth control pills and illegals. We also should also not have to pay for people who don't have health insurance and then seek services in the nations hospital emergency rooms.

In a little mini-debate this morning one sociologist suggested an unintended result of the Court's decisions today might be the increased size and resolve of militia and other far right radical groups. Their efforts to further polarize and resist government actions could become an increasing problem for the nation. The respondent suggested these efforts might be blunted by the increasing popularity of some of the health care provisions here and on the way.

How short sited and blind some can be. Aside from Obamacare, a precedence been set here.

The federal government can now mandate you buy whatever they say. If you don't, you get taxed.

Surly most people aren't dumb enough to believe it will stop with healthcare.

Imho
 

Why do some of us that have medicare HATE Obamacare!....So far, works pretty good!

I'll bite, what else will we be madated to buy?

... and just remember, it was a Junior Bush appointee as the Chief Justice who decided the individual mandate was a tax! Can't blame the liberals or the Democrats on that - it was one of your own! :boxing2:

That's why libs are such fools. I don't care who appointed him or what party he belongs to.

It was a bad decision.

Unlike Obama worshipers I don't blindly defend anything and everything just because they sit on my side of the isle.

Politicians are rats. All of them.

If they make me buy that broccoli they're talking about I'll pay the tax instead!!

Just before an election in a country that Vice President Biden just yesterday said is in a middle-class depression, The Supreme Court has ruled that ObamaCare is now ObamaTax, and literally the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

The largest tax increase in history in this failed Obama economy.

I would hold back on the cheering if I were you. You might want to think about this.

This November this ObamaCare/ObamaTax is all he's going to be running on. This and the collapsing economy.

The only people that will pay the tax, according to today's decision, are those that fail to get insurance, which hopefully will be a very small number.