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Guest 07-25-2015 07:53 PM

I am pretty sure that state and city workers are also in the category of people not receiving SS benefits. That is why many states have real trouble balancing their budgets. Their pension plans are far more generous than SS. Some states based their pension plans on last three years salaries.

Taxes did go down under "W". President Obama extended the tax cuts except for the highest tax rate. To leave tax increases or reform of the tax code off any discussion of balancing the budget, is wrong.

Guest 07-25-2015 09:08 PM

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What is wrong with you people?

OMG another sexist post....

Guest 07-26-2015 05:30 AM

Nobody is talking seriously about balancing the budget. That is a pipe dream.

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I am pretty sure that state and city workers are also in the category of people not receiving SS benefits. That is why many states have real trouble balancing their budgets. Their pension plans are far more generous than SS. Some states based their pension plans on last three years salaries.

Taxes did go down under "W". President Obama extended the tax cuts except for the highest tax rate. To leave tax increases or reform of the tax code off any discussion of balancing the budget, is wrong.


Guest 07-26-2015 08:24 AM

It is a pipe dream, because both parties are taking a hard line on taxes. Republicans sign pledges not to raise taxes, and are living up to that. Democrats won't cut social programs, when taxes are off the table.

It could be getting worse with Republicans putting amendments like repealing ACA on must pass legislation. Apparently, the lessons learned by shutting down the government are a distant memory.

Guest 07-26-2015 10:47 AM

There were no lessons to ever be had by the so called budget shut downs. It is a poltical game that is played and always with the same outcome.

I would venture to say less than 25% of the voters in America are familiar enough with the budgeting and accounting process to understand or address the issue.

is apparent that all of Washington has no understanding either.

In it's simplest form if you don't have it you can't spend it....that is how we all have to live is it not?
Then why should the financially ignorant fools called our representatives, including Obama be allowed to run the government with an ongoing debt?

How many corporations in America would be in business if run by the government.

Creating a balanced budget is no big deal. It is quite basic and fundamental to any well run entity.

Unfortunately lawyers and politicians who have never run a business or had to be finacially responsible have no concept what so ever...hence the kick the can down the road style of accounting and poltical nonsense.....that we the people stand idly by year after year.

See what happens if you try to run your household by having to borrow 50 cents on every dollar you sepnd....and oh by the way there is not limit to how much you could spend or borrow!

Guest 07-27-2015 03:36 PM

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typo on last post...restated....

I also would like to ask all those liberals on here who demean Fox News, and most sites and now the Washington Times, which news source is acceptable ???

I am betting it is one that agrees with your point of view.


For those who don't know that there really are objective news sources available I recommend they check out the following for starters:

PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, USA Today and CNN.

You just might learn something!

Guest 07-27-2015 05:26 PM

You forgot OAN, the new kid on the block

Guest 07-27-2015 08:48 PM

First of all, businesses can raise their prices any time the want. Anytime during a fiscal year they are losing money, because they screwed up on the budget, they can correct their shortfall. Households have fixed expenses, and variable expenses. If you start running short of money, you cut your variable expenses.

The federal government can inflate budget expenses in every area. The federal government is so damn big, who could ever tell what areas were inflated to create a surplus to be used in areas that weren't budgeted.

The federal government could also inflate expected revenue from income taxes, and other sources of revenue. Have you ever seen a federal budget, the condensed one? Good luck trying to heads or tails out of it.

Guest 07-28-2015 06:24 AM

They all lean left - hardly objective.

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For those who don't know that there really are objective news sources available I recommend they check out the following for starters:

PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, USA Today and CNN.

You just might learn something!


Guest 07-28-2015 07:16 AM

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For those who don't know that there really are objective news sources available I recommend they check out the following for starters:

PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, USA Today and CNN.

You just might learn something!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You forgot All-jazz-ear-ah

Learn something on the lettered, full blown, partisan BS networks.....without the talikng points from the WH these networks would havto show cartoons......to keep their constituents on an even playing field....

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 07-28-2015 08:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092199)
For those who don't know that there really are objective news sources available I recommend they check out the following for starters:

PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, USA Today and CNN.

You just might learn something!

Tell me you're being facetious - right??

Guest 07-28-2015 08:33 AM

Forget what you read and where you read it. Believe your eyes aka/action of those actors involved

Obama upon hearing news that the IRS systematically targeted conservative groups fired the IRS commissioner and promoted John Koshinen. Bear in mind that Obama was adamant that Citizens was bad law and ridiculed SCOTUS in his State of the Union .

The IRS under John Koshinen is continuing its same pattern as any of the other scandals in Washington Fast & Furious, Benghazi, DOJ , clinton Charitable foundation Clinton personal server when she was SOS,etc.

Specifically in the IRS case their is Destruction of evidence: on May 22 2013 IRS employees were issued a preservation order and instructed not to taper / reuse or destroy any e-mails back up tapes archive information from IRS personal computers On aug 2, 2013 oversight committee issued its subpoena for information . On Feb 2, 2014 Kate Duval IRS commissioner counsel informed the oversight that Lois lerner's computer crashed and the Inspector General discovered on March 4, 2014 that 422 backup tapes had been erased cotaining 24,000 e-mails.

Ms Kate Duval now works for the State Department where she is vetting Hillary clinton's e-mails relating to Benghazi

Because of the aforementioned actions and those that followed Koshinen is charged with failure to inform congress, making false testimony before congress, failure to correct the record and failure to reform IRS to protect First Amendments rights meaning he was directed by Obama to reform the IRS from their bad habits but the IRS continues to persist

Stonewalling and denial are so common place with these Washington liberals that they actually believe it is standard operating procedure.

As to the IRS function. My view is to start with why the taxman has any right to any of my money? I ask this because i am interested in how they will use it or if they will abuse it. Well we know which is my point.

The tax system needs to be changed but before we do that we need to change the spending habits of those greedy career politicians.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 08-25-2015 05:51 AM

OOOPS


"Lois Lerner had yet another personal email account used to conduct some IRS business, the tax agency confirmed in a new court filing late Monday that further complicates the administration’s efforts to be transparent about Ms. Lerner’s actions during the tea party targeting scandal."


IRS finds yet another Lois Lerner email account - Washington Times

Guest 08-25-2015 12:16 PM

So we have another private email account, KEPT SECRET.......

Remember when this was to be the most transparent administration ever...?

Guest 08-25-2015 09:17 PM

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Posting an article from the "fair and balance" Washington Times. I sure the WT always gives both sides of an argument. I hate defending President Obama all the time. The one sided reporting is a real problem. WT received information from "the pool reporter". What is there only one pool reporter? Heaven help, you try to confirm his/her report. Now, that is a real shallow pool.

What kind of punishment do you inflict on the IRS by cutting their funding? How does not going after tax cheats help reduce the deficit? Let's punish rapists by putting him in the same cell with a 20 year old well endowed woman. That will certainly stop his urges. Tax cheating has increase, because people know that the IRS won't/can't go after them. Is this the Republicans idea of tax reform? A do it yourself approach for taxpayers. You don't like a certain provision in the tax law that affects you, then you can unilaterally change it. This law doesn't apply to me.

Under the Constitution, all men are created equal. If the IRS can chose what provision of the law they want to enforce, we are equal, so we can chose what provision of the law we want to disobey. Sounds good to me.




You want to make sure the IRS scandal won't repeat itself, then let the IRS enforce the law concerning 501(c)4 political action charities as written in the early 50's. No political action can be performed by the groups. That will shut them up in one big hurry.

Isn't this a contradiction? Government doesn't seem to be working under his administration. Then they reference the IRS internal auditor, and the justice department doing their jobs by investigating the scandal. Apparently these departments didn't get the memo from President Obama, "Don't do your job. You are making the rest of us look bad."

But they had the manning and funding to target the tee party WHEN THEY SOULD OF BEEN DOING other legitimate investigation?


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