Now that is funny........ almost as good as your suggestion to take the high road on another thread. The truth is Obama never made it out of training himself! If Trump wants advice, there are plenty of others surrounding him with more intelligence and knowledge than our current President.

Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania.


She intimated she could just file a request looks like a big scam to fill her coffers for next election cycle, who know she may double her votes that would be less than 2% of the pop vote

Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place.

Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. Billy Penn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud.

In fact, the Medium reports that Clinton’s own legal team headed by Marc Elias has noted that Clinton’s team “had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology.” The Obama administration echoed that by stating that the government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyber-activity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on election day. According to Newsmax, Obama is standing behind the results which indicate that Trump won the election, saying the election was “free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective.”
Elias also noted that in even the closest margin state, Michigan, Trump’s win “well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount.” Therefore, Elias says that is why Clinton herself did not pursue a recount effort. However, since Stein has funded and initiated the effort, Elias says that Clinton will participate to ensure fairness.


Jill Stein would have to present evidence of fraud or systematic error in every MI county to initiate a statewide recount. It's a pipe dream
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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest made this announcement everyday last week at his White House press briefing. He stated that the president and Trump are talking on a daily basis. It is highly doubtful that Obama is initiating those calls since he has more important things to do than explain the duties of the president to Trump.



Trump and Obama speak 'regularly,' Conway says - AOL News

Also, these conversations were talked about on Meet The Press today.

that's correct, Kellyanne said it again today.

Trump is smart to ask his opinion, doesn't mater if he agrees or not it's all input to help make intelligent decisions.

Trump and Obama speak 'regularly,' Conway says - AOL News


This statement was made by Trump surrogate KellyAnn Conway.

Trump and Obama speak 'regularly,' Conway says - AOL News

Its all for show, propaganda meant to keep the voters quiet

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I thought the propaganda was all the disagreeing...that Trump is a rogue.

PA is the most difficult to do a recount, Stein just found out after scamming 6.5 million


Pennsylvania may have the highest hurdles to a recount. For one, it’s the only state in which candidates can’t file direct requests -- they can only file a legal appeal that would be decided by the court.

So instead, Stein and the Green Party plan to join a voter-initiated recount in Pennsylvania. Stein has come up with the $500,000 she needs for this effort, but as it turns out, that was the easy part.

As she points out in a video appeal on her website, Pennsylvania is “especially complicated,” in that it “is the only state in which the recount process has to be initiated by actually thousands of voters.”


In Pennsylvania, a statewide recount can occur if at least three voters per precinct or election district submit affadavits. There were some 9,175 election districts in Pennsylvania as of June, 2015, according to Citizens for Election Integrity (CEI), a group which advocates for accuracy in elections. In her video, Stein makes a plea for volunteers from each district to file these affadavits, and she walks through the steps necessary to file the paperwork. There’s downloading the affadavit from her website, and filling it out -- did you vote on an optical scanner or electronic touchscreen, she asks, explaining the difference between the two machines.

After all of this, she warns the volunteer voters not to sign their affadavits until they’re in the presence of a notary public. And afterwards, they’ll have to submit their affadavits to the clerk in their individual election districts.

That’s not all -- the deadline varies from district to district, Stein notes in her video. It could be Monday or it could be Tuesday, Stein says, and in some districts, “the deadline has already passed.” As she talks through all the steps, it’s evident that she knows that she’s asking for a lot, and the odds are long for a statewide recount -- over 27,000 individual voters in these precincts in every corner of Pennsylvania would have to follow these instructions perfectly, notwithstanding the districts where the deadline has already come and gone (but there aren’t many of those, she said).

There would have been an automatic recount triggered in Pennsylvania if the margin of victory had been 0.5 percent or less. In fact, though, in the three states in which Stein is pursuing recounts, Donald Trump had the largest margin of victory in Pennsylvania -- 70,638 votes (a 1.17-percentage-point difference) -- according to the results published by Pennsylvania’s secretary of state.


Why I don't get if the deadline passed the whole PA thing is lost?:shrug:

Now that is hysterical. None of those experts surrounding Trump have ever even visited the White House, unless they took the guided tour, so how would they know how things operate inside the executive mansion?

So you seem to be saying that Trump is a propagandist, since we know that he initiated all those calls with the president.

From your response, I surmise that we have real differences about effective governing. I look at most of the operation of government as not that much different than running a business. You "hire" a good, effective leader that then hires well qualified, experienced personnel to carry out their directives. The leader him/herself does not have to be all-knowing, they just have to know how to utilize the people they hire effectively and be able to bring people together to work as a team through discussion of ideas, negotiation, and the like. IMO that's why having so many lawyers in Washington has ruined the ability to govern properly....... no leadership skills.

Knowing how things operate and knowing how to work with people are 2 very different things. You can LEARN how things operate; not so much the leadership skills. Some of it can be learned, but much of it is part of one's make-up. Look at Obama - classic example of failed leadership.

That's how Obie started out. Without surrounding himself with any experts in anything except communist revolution. He has faked it for 8 years, so anyone can do it.

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The press core like junkies are desperate for fix (sound bites). the pols recognize that the natives are restless so the report that Trump is updating himself by calling Obama.

This may or may not be true but if true we still have no idea what is being said in this exchange.

It could Trump is calling Obama and voicing his disapproval of Obama trying to do a last minute adjustment with the Iran del and Trump is telling Obama that he is only digging America in a deeper hole?

It could be they are exchanging golfing tips? but in the scme of things this bit of news means nothing

The primary point of my original post is we really do not know what is going on behind the scenes and frankly all I care bout is wht becomes official

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I wonder if it would be a good idea for Trump to offer to pay for the recount? He could state something like "he believes the original count was done by qualified and competent people", "But, certainly everyone could use some additional wages with Christmas just around the corner" and then tell Stein "she should refund the people that she took money from to finance the recount, as they could better use the money towards Christmas and their families.

I don't believe for a moment that Trump's winning of the election will change from the recount, but it will quiet some of the masses, and could provide Trump an opportunity to be the better person for the people that counted the ballots in the first place.