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dirtbanker 12-20-2017 10:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1492889)
Does it matter?

I give them props if it wasn't a D or R. ANYONE but a D or R.

I'd LOVE to see a presidential election where Mickey Mouse wins as a write in. ANYONE but a D or R!!! BOTH sides are completely corrupt...part of a corrupt political system.

It matters when all they do is bitch...they most likely did not even take the time to vote, and yet somehow have all the time in the world to bitch.

Mickey mouse and Trump would both be considered outsiders to me. Only difference is Mickey made no promises and we have no idea what he would want to do.

Ross Perot seemed like a great businessman, but at the time it was considered he had nothing to trade with congress, and thus nothing would get done.

Trump while running as an "R" is not of the same cloth as the majority of the party. Thanks to liberal lawyers and Obamma, the president can do a lot more today without congress.

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dirtbanker 12-20-2017 10:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1492873)
Simple question and he never answered.

He can't answer because it shows how stupid he was, and is...

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Don Baldwin 12-20-2017 11:58 AM

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It matters when all they do is bitch...they most likely did not even take the time to vote, and yet somehow have all the time in the world to bitch.

Mickey mouse and Trump would both be considered outsiders to me. Only difference is Mickey made no promises and we have no idea what he would want to do.

Ross Perot seemed like a great businessman, but at the time it was considered he had nothing to trade with congress, and thus nothing would get done.

Trump while running as an "R" is not of the same cloth as the majority of the party. Thanks to liberal lawyers and Obamma, the president can do a lot more today without congress.

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I voted for Ross...we ALL should have. We wouldn't have been sold out as quickly with a 3rd party to slow things down. But they too are/would become corrupt too.

Bottom line is ALL governments ARE immoral when they rule over others.

Ron_Ski 12-20-2017 02:01 PM

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PollingReport.com[/url].

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

Hi Chipster, Welcome to the list.

If as you say "Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution,

and evangelicals" along with the "anomalies" can you share two or three reasons why Hillary lost.

It doesn't seem like that would be nearly enough of the population to put Trump over the top.

Just ol' Ski

mellincf 12-20-2017 02:20 PM

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Hi Chipster, Welcome to the list.

If as you say "Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution,

and evangelicals" along with the "anomalies" can you share two or three reasons why Hillary lost.

It doesn't seem like that would be nearly enough of the population to put Trump over the top.

Just ol' Ski

How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election

Wiotte 12-20-2017 02:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1492736)
You are smart enough to know why the IQ level is where it is.


You don't need Donnie to tell you, it's simple arithmetic.



Yeah.


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Ron_Ski 12-20-2017 03:06 PM

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How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election



So in your opinion, the voters who would normally have voted for Hillary, are so stupid and ignorant that they let some facebook adds change their mind and vote for Trump.

Keep in mind that Hillary spent 1.4 billion on her campaign, and the Russians spent about 300,000.

Doesn't say much for the average Democrat voter, does it?

I think The Chipster can answer for himself.

dirtbanker 12-20-2017 03:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1493057)
How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election

Gee tithead, If that propaganda worked on the rest of the liberals why was your vote not for Trump?

If a person like me, who is not on farcebook or twatter, voted for Trump did the Russian make me do it??

Did the Russians use snapperchat to persuade voters?



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billethkid 12-20-2017 04:16 PM

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I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com.

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

OK...now list that which he promised and has delivered upon.
If your sources are no better than most who only speak negatively you will no doubt not be allowed to make any positive observations.

As for the ratings? Meaningless unless or until some see a number they like.

Remember the ratings/polls/odds for a Clinton sure thing, land slide election last November?
Obvious testimony to the lack of credence and partisan fluff!

Welcome to the forum. Most of us do respect an opposing position/party/opinion. We need not agree but we can agree to disagree.

You will find there is a small number who do not subscribe to the common courtesy.

The Chipster 12-20-2017 07:53 PM

First of all, I am most surely not a female 😅 and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in your reasoned answers.

Allegiance 12-20-2017 07:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1493219)
First of all, I am most surely not a female [emoji28] and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in you reasoned answers.

As opposed to the Obama 10 trillion.

Bill Clinton on Illegal Immigration 1995 - YouTube

Video says it all.

Don Baldwin 12-20-2017 08:33 PM

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As opposed to the Obama 10 trillion.

Bill Clinton on Illegal Immigration 1995 - YouTube

Video says it all.

And then 20 years later...we have:

Joe Biden Admits Breeding Out The White Race Through Immigration Is The End Game - YouTube

My...how things have changed.

Ron_Ski 12-21-2017 08:22 AM

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Posted by Guest
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com.

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

If everything you you say is true, then there was no way Hillary could have lost the election, but she did.

What are the main reasons, in your opinion, she lost the election.

Taltarzac725 12-21-2017 08:49 AM

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Posted by Guest
First of all, I am most surely not a female ������ and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in your reasoned answers.

Good to see someone looking for intelligent discussion on this Political Forum posting. Welcome.

Allegiance 12-21-2017 09:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1493371)
Good to see someone looking for intelligent discussion on this Political Forum posting. Welcome.

Tell him about your 224. ALL newbies need to know.


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