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Guest 07-27-2009 07:05 PM

The only thing I care to add to the proposed Health Care Plan this imbicile of a President wants is that HE is the one who is prejuciced............not the other way around, and secondly........if this passes Congress.....we senior citizens will be put in harms way when we reach 70 and over....no care, no meds, nothing!!

Guest 07-27-2009 07:07 PM

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There are a few good one's left out there I guess. Funny how such an enormously complex issue and one of such enormous importance try's to get rammed through in a few short weeks before it's even read. That should give everyone pause. Except for BO and his radicle conspirators of course.

I emailed Senator Nelson about my concerns. What I got back was...well, make up your own mind as to whether this is already a done deal. Here's his response:

Please do not reply to this e-mail. If you need to send another message to Senator Nelson, please use the form on his Web site: http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm#email

Dear Mr. (My Name):

Thank you for contacting me regarding the health care reform process. Anyone who has battled a major illness knows the system is broken, and we can no longer wait to fix it.

The health care industry is massive and complex, and there are a range of ideas on the table for reforming it. Chief among our aims must be to rein in the out-of-control costs of care. This means a new emphasis on wellness and prevention, a recommitment to researching innovative, more effective treatments for diseases, and additional efforts to lower the cost of prescription drugs. I introduced the Medicare Prescription Drug Gap Reduction Act (S.266) to reduce the large gap known as the "doughnut hole" that occurs when Part D beneficiaries who have paid pay $2,700 in prescription expenses receive no further benefit until they have racked up a total of $4,350 in out-of-pocket expenses, despite the fact that they never stop paying premiums.

Equally important is the issue of the uninsured. Nearly 50 million Americans lack adequate health insurance, and that is unacceptable. I am working toward reforms that would make health insurance available to all Americans through an insurance exchange and would provide subsidies to those who cannot afford coverage. I also believe that Americans should never be denied health insurance or charged exorbitant fees because of a pre-existing condition.

Finally, we must ensure that there are enough health care providers in America and that they are adequately reimbursed by Medicare and Medicaid so they can continue providing care to those most in need. I introduced S. 973, the Resident Physician Shortage Reduction Act of 2007, to address this growing problem. This legislation would expand the number of Medicare-supported physician residency training positions, with an emphasis on funding new primary care residency slots. The number of physician residents eligible for reimbursement has not been altered to reflect changing demand since 1996. I have also fought consistently for fair Medicare reimbursement rates.

The task before us is immense, but Americans will rise to the challenge. I will be sure to take your views into consideration as the debate progresses. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.

Sincerely,
Senator Bill Nelson

P.S. From time to time, I compile electronic news briefs highlighting key issues and hot topics of particular importance to Floridians. If you'd like to receive these e-briefs, visit my Web site and sign up for them at http://billnelson.senate.gov/news/ebriefs.cfm

Guest 07-28-2009 05:17 PM

Hey SteveZ I got the same reply!
 
Dear Mr. ejp52:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the health care reform process. Anyone who has battled a major illness knows the system is broken, and we can no longer wait to fix it.

The health care industry is massive and complex, and there are a range of ideas on the table for reforming it. Chief among our aims must be to rein in the out-of-control costs of care. This means a new emphasis on wellness and prevention, a recommitment to researching innovative, more effective treatments for diseases, and additional efforts to lower the cost of prescription drugs. I introduced the Medicare Prescription Drug Gap Reduction Act (S.266) to reduce the large gap known as the "doughnut hole" that occurs when Part D beneficiaries who have paid pay $2,700 in prescription expenses receive no further benefit until they have racked up a total of $4,350 in out-of-pocket expenses, despite the fact that they never stop paying premiums.

Equally important is the issue of the uninsured. Nearly 50 million Americans lack adequate health insurance, and that is unacceptable. I am working toward reforms that would make health insurance available to all Americans through an insurance exchange and would provide subsidies to those who cannot afford coverage. I also believe that Americans should never be denied health insurance or charged exorbitant fees because of a pre-existing condition.

Finally, we must ensure that there are enough health care providers in America and that they are adequately reimbursed by Medicare and Medicaid so they can continue providing care to those most in need. I introduced S. 973, the Resident Physician Shortage Reduction Act of 2007, to address this growing problem. This legislation would expand the number of Medicare-supported physician residency training positions, with an emphasis on funding new primary care residency slots. The number of physician residents eligible for reimbursement has not been altered to reflect changing demand since 1996. I have also fought consistently for fair Medicare reimbursement rates.

The task before us is immense, but Americans will rise to the challenge. I will be sure to take your views into consideration as the debate progresses. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.

Sincerely,
Senator Bill Nelson

Guest 07-28-2009 07:00 PM

Boilerplate responses sure make being a Senator easy

Guest 07-28-2009 07:58 PM

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Boilerplate responses sure make being a Senator easy

Point and click!

Guest 07-28-2009 11:17 PM

Massachusetts Healthcare is a Failure
 
Tonight I heard that there is a 50 day wait to for an appointment to see a specialist. An average city has a 20 day wait. Massachusetts has many doctors and a gigantic deficit.
Ladies and gentlemen....take a good look at Massachusetts. If our mandatory health care spreads to the other 49 states.( or 56 in ObamaWorld) we are going to be in deep doo doo.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:30 AM

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Tonight I heard that there is a 50 day wait to for an appointment to see a specialist. An average city has a 20 day wait. Massachusetts has many doctors and a gigantic deficit.
Ladies and gentlemen....take a good look at Massachusetts. If our mandatory health care spreads to the other 49 states.( or 56 in ObamaWorld) we are going to be in deep doo doo.

The difference between the Massachusetts program and the proposed federal program is that the former started as an experiment and now has a history of results, and the latter will be an experiment with no baseline. What the two programs have in common is they epitomize what happens when theory is turned into practice without prototyping and beta testing. They both devour money.

While they both have noble motives, they have violated all scientific principles for development and fielding any kind of system. Just review any publication dealing with system management and try to find one place where any business logic is being applied.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:55 AM

Chilling email
 
Chilling email I received this morning:


http://fredthompsonshow.com/premiums...lsaXN0U2l6ZT01

Guest 07-29-2009 12:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217244)
Chilling email I received this morning:


http://fredthompsonshow.com/premiums...lsaXN0U2l6ZT01

Regardless of Party affiliation this is a good thing to hear. Why do I feel much older now ?

Guest 07-29-2009 06:46 PM

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Chilling email I received this morning:


http://fredthompsonshow.com/premiums...lsaXN0U2l6ZT01

:shocked::shocked::shocked: SCARY!!!

I was just diagnosed with maculer degeneration this last year Hope I don't go blind if forced into government health care.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:22 PM

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:shocked::shocked::shocked: SCARY!!!

I was just diagnosed with maculer degeneration this last year Hope I don't go blind if forced into government health care.

Gnu...first of all I am sorry about your diagnoses. I had, he has passed on, a relative with the dry form of the disease. Hopefully, some progress has been made in the recent past.

But there could be a different way to look at this end of life counseling. A customer of mine told me about her father in law, 85 years old, that has full blown Alzheimer's...recently he had a heart attack. When the paramedics came they asked what were his resuscitation wishes. Unfortunately, he and his wife had written their wishes when they were 45 and never updated them.

The wishes were for full resuscitation...so the paramedics rived him. As of last week he was still in ICU in critical condition. Her husband has contacted a lawyer to see if anything can be done but no...the father was of sound mind when he setup his wishes so nothing can be done. The mother also has Alzheimer's and has the same request for full recuscitation. Perhaps if someone had talked to these people at some point during the last 40 years they might have changed things.

This clause may not be a sinister as you all think.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:28 PM

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When the paramedics came they asked what were his resuscitation wishes?
That is the most morbid thing I've ever heard of. So they checked first to see if they should let him die or not? Yoweeee. Not sure I like this getting old thing. I'll be 50 in a couple weeks.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:44 PM

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That is the most morbid thing I've ever heard of. So they checked first to see if they should let him die or not? Yoweeee. Not sure I like this getting old thing. I'll be 50 in a couple weeks.

Actually it is not a bad thing. If someone has a terminal condition or is very old they can declare a no resuscitation order. A friend of mines father was 95 and needed a stint for a block heart artery. In the ER he declined to have the procedure and went out for ice cream. His son came home the next day and they all had dinner then later he collapsed. Because of his wishes they did not resuscitate.

Guest 07-29-2009 07:45 PM

That's weird. Getting old sucks.

Guest 07-29-2009 08:55 PM

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That's weird. Getting old sucks.

On that we can agree......


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