Richie: One thing I'd ask before all this - and I can't seem to quickly find an unbiased article summarizing things...

How was the subpeona served? Who actually received it?

I find it hard to believe that Obama himself would have know about this - President of the United States tend to be busy men.

But as one other pointed out - that's what legal teams are for - to do all the low-level stuff that comes with the territory of being President.

To use a thin analogy - I can serve my deadbeat tenants by placing the notices on the door - but they can still claim they never saw it. That's why one tends to use the local County Sheriff's office to do that sort of thing - to show proof of the attempt at least.

So who knew about he subpoena and (evidently) ignored it? Who served it and how? That might explain a lot and put egg on SOMEONE's face (probably the President's legal team or other advisors)

Let me think about this. Do I want the President chasing around the country responding to every crackpot lawsuit that's filed against him, or do I want him in the war room trying to figure out this threat by Israel to bomb Iran? Can't decide.

Oily Taitz is called the queen bee of the birthers. She was fined $20,000 for frivelous lawsuits. She is a nutjob to say the least.

The hearing went on without President Obama. No problem. What will the judge decide? Makes no difference as the Georgia Secretary of State (Kemp) will make the final decision.

At any rate, the final decision is Kemp's. Regardless of what Malihi recommends, Kemp does not want to become the Republican secretary of state who ruled Barack Obama off the ballot in Georgia. Becoming a birther hero would not begin to compensate for the lasting infamy such a step would bring him, especially because such a ruling would be challenged in state or federal court and almost immediately overturned on any number of reasons. Kemp would then look like a fool and put an end to any further political ambitions he might have. I doubt that’s the course he will choose to take.

President Obama has better things to do than deal with Oily Taitz and her ilk.

Again, that is what his team of lawyers is paid to do. Nobody is above the law. If a president were allowed to be above the law, then we'd be under a dictatorship.

But then, dictatorship is what many on the left want in the first place.

ilovetv - my only reply can be :ohdear:

Hit them long, straight, and not too often.

If President Obama responds to one nutcase subpoena in GA, then next week there will be ten wacko lawsuits in AL, followed by 25 in MS. His legal team has to draw a line somewhere.

"Twistin', twistin', twistin' the night away; twistin', twistin' the night away.

I love when all you libs squirm. The President ignores the law and you defend the indefensible. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..............

Obama Eiligibility spreads to SIX states...EVEN ILLINOIS!
 

"The American People Are Rising Up. Citizens In Six States Are Now DEMANDING That Barack Obama’s Name Be Stripped From The Ballot Unless He Can Prove That He Is Eligible To Hold The Office He Usurped In 2008!

WND recently reported that while Judge Malihi in Georgia “could decide as early as this week whether voters in the state convinced him Barack Obama’s name should be removed from the 2012 presidential ballot… win, lose or draw, the fight isn’t going to be over, as other cases are erupting across the nation… in other states, too, including Alabama, Tennessee, Arizona, New Hampshire, and even Illinois, Obama’s home political base.”
Obama ballot issue « The Radio Patriot



:a040::a040: Well, what do ya'll know, this isn't just lil Georgia having issues over an uppity Yankee impersonator? It's all over the place! NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, & WEST!

KatzPajamas better worry more about Israel bombing Iran. Not clicking on your right wing nut-case web-site. Don't want to infect my computer.

Guess what? The Atlanta judge threw the case out today according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

An interesting article discussing Presidents and Subpoenas at Presidents and Subpoenas: Information from Answers.com

How many documents are needed, do you think, to prove that you really are naturally born?

Well, it still has to go to the Georgia Secretary of State for final determination, but I guess the fix is in.

How is the NWO to proceed if the Emperor is deposed?

Richie - was this your attitude when left-wing protestors were filing claims to have George Bush impeached and tried as a war criminal? As I recall, those lawsuits were pretty much ignored as well.

BassAckwards
 

It is IRAN who has THREATENED to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

Are you ignoring this on purpose, or just a regular anti-Semite??

Total BS!! :ohdear:

Just saying there are more important issues going on right now to worry about.

You thought wrong. President Bush never was presented, and so never refused a legally presented subpoena. Only "The One", who you are inexplicably defending, has had the contempt for our laws applying to him to do that.

This is unbelievable. All you guys spinning is making me a bit nauseous.

You are tragically misinformed if you thin I have written anything but the truth of the matter.

The President of our country showing contempt for our system of laws is of utmost importance to any thinking American.

Key word here = "thinking"

Evidently the judge hearing the case disagrees with you since he threw the case out as being frivolous. As I've stated before, the President cannot be required to appear everytime he is confronted with some nut case lawsuit. If he did, you would be criticizing him for wasting taxpayers money by flying around on AirForceOne.

I would be curious as to what might be more important than the Israeli/Iran situation ?? PLEASE explain

Bucco, it appears that janmcn agrees with you that Pres. Obama is too concerned with world issues than to waste time and taxpayer money answering frivelous lawsuits by nut jobs like Oily Taitz.

RichieLion and Katz disagree and would like the President to personally appear at all of these nut job hearings - even though it is a waste of time and money.

Conservatives have to learn.

I was saying that the Iraeli/Iran situation is more important than all the frivolous lawsuits that are being thrown at President Obama.

Your right I meant debt and the amount depends on what period you are examining. My stats are from WSJ. could have missed something

It doesn't change the fact that this guy will spend us in the ground

Let's see what happens if any other American ignores a subpoena because he felt it frivolous..

Is the President above the law in your view? Are you seriously making that argument?

When one shows this kind of contempt for our legal system and one takes more than enough time to setup the logistics of producing an alleged fraudulent birth certificate, creditability becomes a major serious issue that the left would prefer to sweep under the carpet if they could.

I just read an article called "Defining Natural-Born Citizen" where the author PA Madison extensively wrote on the subject in question here. IMHO, if what has been indicated is accurate - and I have no reason to believe that it's not - then I would have no doubt what-so-ever that the president is not a natural born citizen. It explains that a newly born child is a naturally born citizen if the child's father's (not mother's with rare exception) allegiance is exclusively to the US. That means US citizenship, and my understanding is that the president's father was not a citizen at the time of Obama's birth. Don't just take my word for this. Read it for yourself and decide for yourself by clicking the link I provided above!

Therefore, what's happening in Georgia should happen and should happen in any state that has any evidence that would indicate that the biggest hoax in the history of America just might have been pulled on all of us, including his supporters! Let's find the truth and let the chips fall where they might!

Okay, conservatives lost another battle here. The judge in Georgia ruled that President Obama can be on the Georgia ballot because he is a natural born citizen of the USA. Was there any doubt? No, there wasn't.

Get on with your golf games, Yeungling drinking, and other important stuff now that has been settled.

Looks like you were right after all cologal! :bigbow:

I received a ticket for passing a stopped school bus. School bus drivers have the authority to report you to the police, no questions asked. I and all of my passengers know that I did not pass a stopped school bus, but the bus driver claims I passed it, plus claimed there was a child in the road also. Guess what- I had to take time off work, interrupting my busy schedule, to appear in court (not an offense like speeding, where one can just go online and pay the fine) for a ridiculous and totally fabircated accusation. Maybe I should have just blown it off, since the claim was false?


Side note-Later I learned that in our small rural community, there were problems with cars passing buses. Several other people were used to be made examples of...

This is an interesting commentary and senate transcript cited in a reader review of the article linked by skyguy79:

"I hear so many people say that “the term natural Born citizen is not defined in the constitution, so we can define it how we wish”, or “that is what it meant then, but not now”.

The fact is that the term means the same now as it did then, and is every bit as precient as it was in 1788. There has been no Amendment to change it. There are volumes written about it’s meaning if one wants to extend a little intellectual effort.

The term was even discussed recently by the senators during the writing of Resolution 511:
EXCERPT OF SECRETARY CHERTOFF TESTIMONY FROM APRIL 2, 2008: (Resolution 511)
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Chairman Leahy: We will come back to that. I would mention one other thing, if I might, Senator Specter. Let me just ask this: I believe and we have had some question in this Committee to have a special law passed declaring that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal, that he meets the constitutional requirement to be President. I fully believe he does. I have never had any question in my mind that he meets our constitutional requirement.

You are a former Federal judge. You are the head of the agency that executes Federal immigration law. Do you have any doubt in your mind, I mean, I have none in mine. Do you have any doubt in your mind that he is constitutionally eligible to become President?

Secretary Chertoff: My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen.

Chairman Leahy: That is mine, too. Thank you.


They all heard it, talked about it and debated it. If Leahy thinks that a NBC is the product of Citizen parents, how could he support Obama? How could ANY OF THEM. They are all in violation of Article 6......"

buggyone...yea and they let Casey Anthony off too...justice and truth always prevail

:bigbow: :bigbow:

You won't address the ignoring of a presented writ; a legally binding subpoena that the President ignored.

Of course you can't, or rather you won't. It's really telling about you, and Dale and the other fawning masses that you ignore this.

Oh!!, and the Secretary of State of Georgia still has to accept this partisan judge's ruling. We know the fix is in, but how deep?

It's not quite over yet.

Katz,
Sorry to hear about your brush with the law. Wasn't there an opportunity to contest the ticket? You would have had your witnesses vs the bus driver and the outcome would be up to a judge.

Unless you work for the Department of Justice and have access to the subpoena, your credibility on this issue is suspect.

That is exactly what I did...However, my point is, I had no right to just not show up just because I thought the ticket's claim was bogus.

Oh enlighten me then, won't you? Under what circumstances are you permitted by law to ignore a legally issued subpoena?

Are there circumstances when you can just throw it in the trash?

I would have to read the subpoena to answer your question. I'm just guessing that expert legal minds have done just that.

And, Richie, as much as you've claimed I'm "spinning" it, I still haven't seen an answer to MY question.

That is - WHO got served? It's not like some GA sheriff walked up to the door of the White House and served the President.

I'm guessing that it HAD to be some member of a legal team - and THAT person (or persons) could be in a lot of trouble.

If it was legally served to the President's representative then THEY are on the hook. Any first year law student would probably say that the legal team was responsible for notifying the President and consulting him.

It may very well be that they didn't take it as serious as it should have been. If so, there would be more charges coming out of this.