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02-06-2012 01:34 PM |
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I have to take exception to two comments in your above post; first "voter fraud which is rampant". The Bush administration conducted a five year study and found no voter fraud.
Second "Voter ID laws do not suppress votes except for the fraudulent ones".
Personally, I am all in favor of voter ID as long as these ID's are made available to all voters free of charge. Recently it cost me $23.00 to get the documents (birth certificate/marriage license) just to renew my Florida driver's license. This is a lot of money to some people and without the use of a computer, it would be a daunting task to get said documents.
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You can take exception if you want, but that doesn't come near convincing me that the fraud exists and more so on the left than on the right. I'm not gong into everything that has convinced me of this, but ask... How do so many deceased people vote? A whole lot of them do somehow. How do a whole lot of missing votes suddenly appear days after Republicans appear to be the winner of an election and that winds up turning the election around. Don't tell me it hasn't happened. It happened in one case when that Donkey Kong comedian Franken lost an election by 571 votes to Coleman in Minnesota only to be turned over well after the contest was decided when enough voted showed up in a recount to reverse the results. These few examples are most likely to be only the tip of the iceberg, so don't tell me that fraud isn't rampant, I'm not that gullible!
Getting a drivers license is expensive now a days. I've seen the prices rise over the years in the documents we issued in NY. I've also recently switch my drivers license from NY to FL when we moved down. However, people don't need pay for a drivers license to have ID for voting. States have been issuing photo ID card for years now and they're pretty inexpensive. As I said in my previous post, there are ways for the poor and elderly to get assistance if they're indigent or disabled. I'm disabled and have mobility problems and in my vast experience in that area I don't even come close to finding getting an ID a problem. If someone can't get an ID it's because they don't want to get and ID or they'r too lazy or don't want to bother being inconvenienced to take the steps the rest of us have to or had to. Even the poorest can get the money if that's the problem or even can get it waived under certain circumstances. And if someone can get to stores to shop, the bars to drink or party or the polls to vote, then they can get to wherever they need to get their ID. IMHO and with RARE exception, the disenfranchised myth is just a creation of liberals and progressives minds in our country, created for political reasons!
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