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Guest 10-31-2008 06:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170731)
Cassie...I pray I am wrong....I am daggone sure I am not, but I still hope I am wrong and after election day my criticism of him will cease if he is elected..he will be my President as well as yours and I respect that, but I will be back to call attention to what he is doing. If McCain wins...I too will respect him as president....

I am sorry for offending people.....Sen Obama is not a messiah..he should rebuke those who say it and have them take down a website that promotes it and takes money for his campaign. You did not mean to offend anyone...but are respected for apologizing...I think you are right...he should ask them to take it down....but then again there is that Freedom of Speech issue...;)


Ok/./...had enough of me....obviously I am in the minority on this and as I said..hope I am wrong ! I don't think you are necessarily the minority in the state or country.....just one that is vocal about the beliefs and that is better than staying quiet!!


MY response's in red.....

Guest 10-31-2008 06:43 PM

I'm with you Bucco... not that I'm a big fan of McCain... But Obamma scares the @#&! out of me. I do not want to live in the USSA and I'm afraid that is what is going to happen should the American public doesn't wake up and elects him.

Guest 10-31-2008 06:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170738)
I'm with you Bucco... not that I'm a big fan of McCain... But Obamma scares the @#&! out of me. I do not want to live in the USSA and I'm afraid that is what is going to happen should the American public doesn't wake up and elects him.



Thank you very much OOPER....I do feel alone here at times like some crazy person....thank you

Guest 10-31-2008 09:33 PM

you are not alone...
 
Bucco, you do us proud..those of us who feel as you do. i agree with cassie of course that the label of messiah is ridiculous but it was taken from the dubious farrakahn as you mentioned, and since the media refuses to say anything about BHO which could cause voters to rethink their adoration of him, it seems appropriate in a sarcastic way. i do not believe he stands for all the hope and light he so eloquently likes to speak about. it frightens me that he HAS captured the adulation of our youth (weren't we all young and gullible once?) and if we are not careful our way of life will be destroyed from within....i agree with cassie that we must all pray very hard for our country.

Guest 10-31-2008 09:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170760)
Bucco, you do us proud..those of us who feel as you do. i agree with cassie of course that the label of messiah is ridiculous but it was taken from the dubious farrakahn as you mentioned, and since the media refuses to say anything about BHO which could cause voters to rethink their adoration of him, it seems appropriate in a sarcastic way. i do not believe he stands for all the hope and light he so eloquently likes to speak about. it frightens me that he HAS captured the adulation of our youth (weren't we all young and gullible once?) and if we are not careful our way of life will be destroyed from within....i agree with cassie that we must all pray very hard for our country.

Cha....the thing is that my point was that Farrakan is not a good example of the typical Democrat....or the typical American that is voting for Obama....as there are many Republicans that are voting for him.....


I honestly do not believe that Obama thinks of himself as "the messiah"....he is just passionate about America....about the people who live here....

My last thought on this topic is that we apparently have TWO choices....and I seem to think that most people are tired of Bush....tired of debt and war! Most people want change....and if one person can bring that hope of change out in people...well then God Bless him....not as the Messiah....just as a human being loving his country and working his BUT..T off to offer them hope...reminds me of Clinton's hope....we did well with his hope....we need that back....

OMG....I compared Obama with Clinton....well hopefully he will run the country just as well....but be better at his personal life!! LOL

Bucco is a great debater....I love him for getting me excited about this country and politics!!! I owe him a beer and pizza....no matter who wins!!

Guest 10-31-2008 10:08 PM

i have my doubts
 
that obama loves this country as much as you think he does, cassie. he wants to "transform, change, teach," everything but be PROUD of our country the way it is....i think he thinks of himself not only as the savior of america, but of the world....a gigantic ego with little real substance. IMHO

Guest 10-31-2008 10:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170766)
that obama loves this country as much as you think he does, cassie. he wants to "transform, change, teach," everything but be PROUD of our country the way it is....i think he thinks of himself not only as the savior of america, but of the world....a gigantic ego with little real substance. IMHO

Why don't you give it a rest. I am so tired of hearing about all the things you all conger up about Obama. Tell me something constructive that the McCain-Palin duo is going to do to pull this country back up and out of the mess Bush II and the conservative right has gotten us into. So far all I've heard from McCain and the rest of his surrogates, is the vial lies about Obama. I can only deduct from that, is that he or his right conservative drivel has anything constructive to say.

I have to stay out of this political thread, it's pretty much non-sense.

Guest 10-31-2008 10:26 PM

This was in response to Chachacha.....Well I appreciate your opinion...and glad to see someone posting in here other than Bucco and me....LOL

However....I will agree to disagree....and respect whoever is named/voted president. I have voted...and can't and won't change that now....

I truly, from my heart, disagree with your opinion....but again that is what we are all made of...differences....thank goodness for that...who needs more than one Cassie??? LOL

Anyway....in regards to Obama's thoughts about himself...I don't think he thinks of himself as a saviour....like the messiah....but if he feels confident enough to CHANGE the way we are right now....GOOD...we need it!! If anyone thinks are country is in a good place now.....we are in trouble....I think McCain is a good American and loves this country but wants to change things too.....isn't that the same as Obama? They both love this country and have faith in it...but want to change it....as Gov. Palin called it...reforming the government.....same thing!

They all love this country but feel it needs change....me too...you too.....we just disagree on who should be in charge of that change!!

Gosh I talk a lot!! LOL:faint:

Guest 10-31-2008 10:41 PM

Rekop

I too had wondered why Obama had such large crowds and McCain such small crowds. Suddenly I realized what it was. McCain supporters have to work.

Guest 11-01-2008 01:50 AM

Bucco...

If only those enamored with Obama would take the time to actually read Alinsky, Ayers, Wright, etc.. perhaps they would be alarmed as well.

His campaign reads like a playbook.

Change for change sake is not always wise. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

The current administration has played right into the hands of those who would be Marxist with the all the legislation recently passed in the name of Homeland Security...the Patriot Act, etc.. Everything is all set and ready to go for the "right" person to take over in every sense of the word.

Guest 11-01-2008 07:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170799)
Bucco...

If only those enamored with Obama would take the time to actually read Alinsky, Ayers, Wright, etc.. perhaps they would be alarmed as well.

His campaign reads like a playbook.

Change for change sake is not always wise. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

The current administration has played right into the hands of those who would be Marxist with the all the legislation recently passed in the name of Homeland Security...the Patriot Act, etc.. Everything is all set and ready to go for the "right" person to take over in every sense of the word.

Finally someone who understands. I had been, its too late now, imploring people to READ READ....Sen Obama is following the playbook by the page and you are correct it was all set up by the last at least 4 years.

If folks had read what the marxist game plan IN WRITING is all about and how Sen Obama trained in it and has been steeped in it, they would recognize ALL the factors involved.

There are criticisms on her about the planning of a McCain rally with the plumber guy, but no mention of almost a million dollars spent on lighting by Sen Obama in Europe. It is almost, as Alinsky said in other words, we have them blinded !!!!

Guest 11-01-2008 08:12 AM

Captain, you are naughty! :1rotfl: I'm going to have to rat on you! :) Oh what am I doing in here so early. I need coffee! :mornincoffee:

Guest 11-01-2008 10:55 PM

It's amazing how some people believe that B. Hussan Obama is going to get us out of the mess Bush II and the conservative right has gotten us into when it was the liberal democratic congress that caused it by mandating Freddie and Fannie make all those worthless loans! People need to be informed and wake up!

Guest 11-02-2008 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170740)
Thank you very much OOPER....I do feel alone here at times like some crazy person....thank you

You are not alone here Bucco. Us conservatives are out of style at the moment and having trouble getting our message through all the din from the liberal camp.
I think it's left over bitterness from the last election that's driving liberals to the far left, message wise, trying to get what the feel was their win.

Guest 11-02-2008 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 170770)
This was in response to Chachacha.....Well I appreciate your opinion...and glad to see someone posting in here other than Bucco and me....LOL

However....I will agree to disagree....and respect whoever is named/voted president. I have voted...and can't and won't change that now....

I truly, from my heart, disagree with your opinion....but again that is what we are all made of...differences....thank goodness for that...who needs more than one Cassie??? LOL

Anyway....in regards to Obama's thoughts about himself...I don't think he thinks of himself as a saviour....like the messiah....but if he feels confident enough to CHANGE the way we are right now....GOOD...we need it!! If anyone thinks are country is in a good place now.....we are in trouble....I think McCain is a good American and loves this country but wants to change things too.....isn't that the same as Obama? They both love this country and have faith in it...but want to change it....as Gov. Palin called it...reforming the government.....same thing!

They all love this country but feel it needs change....me too...you too.....we just disagree on who should be in charge of that change!!

Gosh I talk a lot!! LOL:faint:

Cassie325. I have enjoyed your level headed, thoughtfulness responses. Some of us want steady, mature leadership, and some want change so bad they'll ignore what is wishful thinking.

Keep up the great posts.:)


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