Now you have a great Idea. Lets use all we have learned in the past, destroy all current religions and start a new one that will be good for man kind.

Good luck with that. I also think you need to look up the definition of "faith".

I have faith in GOD, not some perverted man made religion.

Your hate for other people is truly incredible.

I love everyone except those that prey on other people like perverted priests. I have more respect for an armed robber than any Religious figure that take advantage of the week. Church leaders should be small and local as they become evil when they get large congregations.

Sorry to see that you would give an armed robber any level of respect.

Richie - an honest question for you.

Would you believe me if I told you how hurt I was when I found out that it wasn't just Cardinal Law covering up for the pedophile priests in Boston? I remember having a discussion with some friends about how this would NEVER have happened under his predecessor, Cardinal Cushing.

...then the news broke, some weeks later, that Cushing was just as guilty as Law.

Until that point, I was hanging my hopes on Law being a 'rogue', if you take my meaning. The more the story broke, the more reams of documents that were turned over after the Church denying they existed... The more my heart broke and the more angry I became.

In all honesty, I think the thing I hated the most about all that (on a personal level) is how it tarnishes my memories of the good priests I grew up with. Though I was never molested in any way, the actions of those criminals planted doubt in my mind. I keep telling myself that Father Mike and Father Houde and others were just as good people after the revelations (which never had anything to do with them) as they were in my mind before.. But it's not easy.

Est-li failb ?(Is he weak?) Nicolas Skarzoy....Boy did he have Obama pegged.

Would you care to give us the locations of these verses (in bold from your quote) and the context in which they were written?

OK DJ, fine. You and Villager have lots of hate for the Catholic Church. I get it and find it appalling. You take every single opportunity to bash the Church, so don't deny it.

You're the same person who defends Islam at every opportunity and defends their "holy book, the Koran.

I'm shakin' my head DJ, I'm shakin' my head.

This begs the question- Was/Is your faith in the Church of God OR the God of the Church? God's people are flawed, imperfect, perverse, wicked, hurtful people. BUT the greatest news of all time is that GOD LOVES EACH AND EVERYONE OF US FLAWED, IMPERFECT, PERVERSE, WICKED, HURTFUL PEOPLE. He has offered us FORGIVENESS! If He forgives, who are we not to?! Be angry, be hurt, be brokenhearted, for by so being-you are just the person He gave His life for. Open your tightly clenched fists and give all the pain and anger to Him. Don't hang your hopes on any people-Our hope is built on nothing less than Jesus love and His Righteousness. All other ground is sinking sand, djplong! ...as you well know. Only the Love of God in Christ will never let you down. Cast your cares on Him, for He cares for you!

I feel you take every opportunity to trash anyone that differs from you on ANY issue. I am shakin my head Richie, I am shakin my head.

I don't have respect for robber, I mean to say that I would give them the edge over a priest that uses his position the rape young boys. I hope you have the same Disrespect for priests that do that to little boys.

Richie, to be honest, I'm a little surprised at you. Have you missed or deliberately ignored every occasion where I have been VERY deliberate in stating what I find *good* in the Church (specifically the people I had personal interactions with)?

Yeah, I have a major beef with people like Ratzinger and Law. Have you wondered maybe WHY I'm so mad at them? Because they are a *cancer* in an institution that shouldn't be dragged down by their kind. Any other issues I have with the Church are rather minor in comparison - some are amusing if you look at them in the right light (like how not too many Catholics know what the Immaculate Conception really was - hint: it wasn't the angel visiting Mary).

I point out the double standards. Go ahead and read Exodus 21 and tell me how "enlightened" that is. Especially verses 20-21 where you can beat your slave so long as they don't die within a couple of days!

Yeah, you can find all kinds of violence in the Koran, but don't pretend the Bible doesn't contain the same kinds of passages that can be used to justify abhorrent behavior.

I wonder how many people who want to display the Ten Commandments in public buildings and use tax money for the displays even KNOW where they are in the Bible. Hint: It's the chapter right before the instructions on how to handle your slaves, Exodus 20.

How about the Bible-endorsed racism? If you have *Hebrew* slaves, you have to set them free in the Year of Jubilee - gentile slaves are to be passed on like an inheritance.

Again, it's the *double standard* that I object to. I support that crazy Constitutional idea of "Equal Protection Under the Law".

Some folks have the need to twist everything you say for their personal benefit. I also believe with all my heart that without religion and church leaders, this world would be much worse off; however, to condone through silence the vicious things done in the name of God behind the walls of Church's and in the pulpit needs to be addressed with stronger measures and stop overlooking it because it is the Church.