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Guest 11-09-2011 02:56 PM

Bill, that's exactly my point. You hear about 3 OWS locations having problems (Oakland, Seattle, LA). Yet the peaceful demonstrations going on in literally HUNDREDS of cities worldwide goes unreported.

Just like the people who screamed how racist the Tea Party was. I'm sure some members ARE, but the core message is actually quite similar to OWS (at least at the beginning and the Tea Party HAS stayed more 'in focus' by a LONG shot)

Guest 11-09-2011 02:59 PM

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Bill, that's exactly my point. You hear about 3 OWS locations having problems (Oakland, Seattle, LA). Yet the peaceful demonstrations going on in literally HUNDREDS of cities worldwide goes unreported.

Just like the people who screamed how racist the Tea Party was. I'm sure some members ARE, but the core message is actually quite similar to OWS (at least at the beginning and the Tea Party HAS stayed more 'in focus' by a LONG shot)

djp you may be right except they ought to be venting their frustration at Washington

Guest 11-09-2011 08:24 PM

Tea party people=mostly employed normal Americans.

Occupiers= mostly unemployable bums and dropouts who will never be good citizens.

Guest 11-10-2011 06:27 AM

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djp you may be right except they ought to be venting their frustration at Washington

Some of that outrage IS geared towards Washington (for the bank bailouts). But mostly it's geared at:

- The bank that foreclosed on their (or their parent's) mortgage while giving CEOs multimillion dollar bonuses.

- The multinational corporation that reports record profits while simultaneously refusing to create new jobs AND asks for more tax cuts.

- The health insurance companies that drop you as soon as you're no longer a profit center.

Guest 11-10-2011 06:31 AM

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Tea party people=mostly employed normal Americans.

Occupiers= mostly unemployable bums and dropouts who will never be good citizens.

So all those teachers, firefighters, veterans, police officers and other 'regular folk' I saw in Boston in ADDITION to students is something I made up?

I've seen this kind of ploy before. You demonize the opposition - make them look or sound "sub human" and you can rationalize ANYTHING.

They'll "never be good citizens"? You know them all personally and you have psychic powers to read all of their future fates? Have you, oh, I don't know, TALKED to any of them?

Let me tell you something. I made no secret of the fact that I voted for Reagan "as many times as I was legally allowed" when talking to the folks down there. Sometimes I got a bit of a guarded reactions, sometimes surprise at the fact that I was talking *with* them and finding common ground.

Guest 11-10-2011 07:41 AM

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So all those teachers, firefighters, veterans, police officers and other 'regular folk' I saw in Boston in ADDITION to students is something I made up?

I've seen this kind of ploy before. You demonize the opposition - make them look or sound "sub human" and you can rationalize ANYTHING.

They'll "never be good citizens"? You know them all personally and you have psychic powers to read all of their future fates? Have you, oh, I don't know, TALKED to any of them?

Let me tell you something. I made no secret of the fact that I voted for Reagan "as many times as I was legally allowed" when talking to the folks down there. Sometimes I got a bit of a guarded reactions, sometimes surprise at the fact that I was talking *with* them and finding common ground.

Excreting on police cars and selling dope from tents?

Guest 11-10-2011 09:34 PM

You just go on believing that picture of the guy crappingo n the police car was an OWS protestor. He was a homeless (and most likely mentally ill) man.

The homeless caused the only problems the Boston protests have seen when they tried to crash the site for free food. Occupy Boston has a pretty damn strict no alcohol and no drugs policy - in line with the policies in other cities (of course, I can't vouch for how strict it is elsewhere but Boston seems to have been going along fine).

Guest 11-10-2011 09:54 PM

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You just go on believing that picture of the guy crappingo n the police car was an OWS protestor. He was a homeless (and most likely mentally ill) man.

The homeless caused the only problems the Boston protests have seen when they tried to crash the site for free food. Occupy Boston has a pretty damn strict no alcohol and no drugs policy - in line with the policies in other cities (of course, I can't vouch for how strict it is elsewhere but Boston seems to have been going along fine).

Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

Guest 11-11-2011 08:06 AM

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Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

VG: When you changed your screen name, why didn't you use your real name?

Guest 11-11-2011 09:54 AM

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Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

What is absurd is that you highlighted the part of my post where I said I was finding common ground and then put in YOUR two cents of suggesting that it was selling dope and excreting on police cars.

There are a lot of posters here that I disagree with but still respect.

Think about what you said. You basically accused me of being a dope-selling, mentally handicapped indigent.

Yeah. I take offense at that.

Guest 11-11-2011 09:58 AM

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What is absurd is that you highlighted the part of my post where I said I was finding common ground and then put in YOUR two cents of suggesting that it was selling dope and excreting on police cars.

There are a lot of posters here that I disagree with but still respect.

Think about what you said. You basically accused me of being a dope-selling, mentally handicapped indigent.

Yeah. I take offense at that.

That was not intentional and I think you already knew that. My bad, sorry.

Guest 11-12-2011 07:37 PM

I Have a Problem With Your Characterization
 
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Tea party people=mostly employed normal Americans.

Occupiers= mostly unemployable bums and dropouts who will never be good citizens.

Where do you get your information?
Some months ago Greenspan called this a two tiered recovery. The middle class is not participating. We have lost eight million jobs in this recession that have not yet come back. The rest of us have to endure with zero percent raises and a fear that things won't get better. Many of these people that you call occupiers had solid jobs ten years ago or were in college five years ago. They are not bums they are extremely unlucky.

I think that you right wingers are devoid of empathy for this new underclass because you are ignorant of the new economic reality. Your parents are no longer around to tell you just how bad things were in the Depression.

Guest 11-12-2011 07:44 PM

Excellent Posts
 
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What is absurd is that you highlighted the part of my post where I said I was finding common ground and then put in YOUR two cents of suggesting that it was selling dope and excreting on police cars.

There are a lot of posters here that I disagree with but still respect.

Think about what you said. You basically accused me of being a dope-selling, mentally handicapped indigent.

Yeah. I take offense at that.

I agree with many of your posts. However, I will never be a Red Sox fan.

Guest 11-12-2011 08:17 PM

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Where do you get your information?
Some months ago Greenspan called this a two tiered recovery. The middle class is not participating. We have lost eight million jobs in this recession that have not yet come back. The rest of us have to endure with zero percent raises and a fear that things won't get better. Many of these people that you call occupiers had solid jobs ten years ago or were in college five years ago. They are not bums they are extremely unlucky.

I think that you right wingers are devoid of empathy for this new underclass because you are ignorant of the new economic reality. Your parents are no longer around to tell you just how bad things were in the Depression.

We are ignorant? LOL Have you read some of the left's posts here? Have you really dissected yours?:loco:

Guest 11-12-2011 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=tonyafd;417224]Where do you get your information?
Some months ago Greenspan called this a two tiered recovery. The middle class is not participating. We have lost eight million jobs in this recession that have not yet come back. The rest of us have to endure with zero percent raises and a fear that things won't get better. Many of these people that you call occupiers had solid jobs ten years ago or were in college five years ago. They are not bums they are extremely unlucky.

I think that you right wingers are devoid of empathy for this new underclass because you are ignorant of the new economic reality. Your parents are no longer around to tell you just how bad things were in the Depression.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Mr. Katz' mother is still around. She is pretty sharp too...she says "None of this foolishness of protesting went on. People who needed help were helped by the community. Everyone worked hard at whatever work they could find. People were still clean and behaved themselves...and they made do with what they had."
Her cousing is 90ish and pretty sharp also. Will get her opinion when she joins us for Thanksgiving!


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