Posted by Guest (Post 416613)

PUBLIC EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!
YOU DID NOT HIRE THEM!
YOU DO NOT SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS!
DISPUTE THAT!

they work for a government entity and their paychecks are signed by that entity's fiscal officer/treasurer. they do not remit payments to you for their taxes, pensions, 401ks, and health covg. they do not request approval of their vacation time from you. DISPUTE THAT!

they go to work every day to provide a service: first responders, doctors, nurses, patient care givers, prison guards, garbage men, landscapers, motor vehicle inspectors, weights & measures inspectors, teachers, investigators, complaint bureau staff, professional credential reviewers/licensers, army, navy, marines, air force, coast guard, yada, yada, yada. those services are for YOU! use them or not! and if you don't want them - tell your elected officials to take them off the book...and then see what they tell you!

you do little more than fund local, county, state and federal governments. you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else. if you want to question the amount of $ paid to public employees or anything else...call your elected officials! they work for you because you elected them!

you can call all you want for the end of salary and benefit increases for public workers - and maybe someday you will be heard - but you will have to find a politician who will listen first! what i cannot understand is why you do not call for the elimination of waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs and services that your governments continue to support. that is where true government overspending is found.

Posted by Guest (Post 416613)

PUBLIC EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!
YOU DID NOT HIRE THEM!
YOU DO NOT SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS!
DISPUTE THAT!

they work for a government entity and their paychecks are signed by that entity's fiscal officer/treasurer. they do not remit payments to you for their taxes, pensions, 401ks, and health covg. they do not request approval of their vacation time from you. DISPUTE THAT!

they go to work every day to provide a service: first responders, doctors, nurses, patient care givers, prison guards, garbage men, landscapers, motor vehicle inspectors, weights & measures inspectors, teachers, investigators, complaint bureau staff, professional credential reviewers/licensers, army, navy, marines, air force, coast guard, yada, yada, yada. those services are for YOU! use them or not! and if you don't want them - tell your elected officials to take them off the book...and then see what they tell you!

you do little more than fund local, county, state and federal governments. you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else. if you want to question the amount of $ paid to public employees or anything else...call your elected officials! they work for you because you elected them!

you can call all you want for the end of salary and benefit increases for public workers - and maybe someday you will be heard - but you will have to find a politician who will listen first! what i cannot understand is why you do not call for the elimination of waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs and services that your governments continue to support. that is where true government overspending is found.

Posted by Guest (Post 416613)

PUBLIC EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!
YOU DID NOT HIRE THEM!
YOU DO NOT SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS!
DISPUTE THAT!

they work for a government entity and their paychecks are signed by that entity's fiscal officer/treasurer. they do not remit payments to you for their taxes, pensions, 401ks, and health covg. they do not request approval of their vacation time from you. DISPUTE THAT!

they go to work every day to provide a service: first responders, doctors, nurses, patient care givers, prison guards, garbage men, landscapers, motor vehicle inspectors, weights & measures inspectors, teachers, investigators, complaint bureau staff, professional credential reviewers/licensers, army, navy, marines, air force, coast guard, yada, yada, yada. those services are for YOU! use them or not! and if you don't want them - tell your elected officials to take them off the book...and then see what they tell you!

you do little more than fund local, county, state and federal governments. you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else. if you want to question the amount of $ paid to public employees or anything else...call your elected officials! they work for you because you elected them!

you can call all you want for the end of salary and benefit increases for public workers - and maybe someday you will be heard - but you will have to find a politician who will listen first! what i cannot understand is why you do not call for the elimination of waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs and services that your governments continue to support. that is where true government overspending is found.

Posted by Guest (Post 416614)

Horse flaps... The stimulus added 100,000 useless government jobs and absolutely zero private sector jobs. The government is like a giant sponge soaking up all our resources. We are following the path of Greece and other top heavy governments. Public sector jobs and pensions will destroy the United States. PERIOD.

Posted by Guest (Post 416709)

You're showing more ignorance here. (You seem to ignore the fact that we're being taxed at the lowest rate since the 1950s - I'd hardly call that "soaking up all our resources")

But rather than go down THAT rat-hole, I'll ask a question of you. Here in New Hampshire, stimulus funds were used on an existing roadway project to connect the state's largest airport to the major highway going through our 3 largest cities. The funds allowed us to speed up the construction so that the new highway is opening TODAY (11/11/11) instead of 2 years from now. On top of that, finishing it sooner also made it come in under budget.

Now.. The construction workers who were hired to speed up the job. They were employed by the private construction companies who won the contracts from the state. Are THOSE employees your idea of 'public' employees?

Posted by Guest (Post 416622)

Ridiculous post. You show a complete ignorance of our system of government if you don't realize that the government works for the people. We have every right to get involved in that government and to demand accountability.

You don't think "public servants" work for the public? Dispute that?

What utter nonsense.

Posted by Guest (Post 416666)

Looks like you truly do believe that the tail wags the dog!:oops:

Posted by Guest (Post 416729)

to each of you: all levels of government employ workers to provide services for you - government employees do not work FOR you! if anyone demonstrates ignorance of the employment process, each of you appears to.

and to richie - in my post i did indicate that it is your right AND your responsibility to get involved where i posted, "you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else."

'public servants' SERVE the public - the word servant is the noun/subject derivative of the verb to serve - service is not employment unless an individual is indentured - got it?

Posted by Guest (Post 416713)

Check the stats and stop calling posters ignorant. You lose what little credibility that you have "soaked up." (Sorry, could not control myself)
The facts are that the Stimulus bill went to public employees and did not create one private sector job.

Note: Highway construction is supposed to be paid with the exorbitant gas tax we pay every day at the pump.

Posted by Guest (Post 416731)

I got it. I got it fine. You're another entitled worker, I suspect. Oh yeah, I got it.

Posted by Guest (Post 416729)

to each of you: all levels of government employ workers to provide services for you - government employees do not work FOR you! if anyone demonstrates ignorance of the employment process, each of you appears to.

and to richie - in my post i did indicate that it is your right AND your responsibility to get involved where i posted, "you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else."

'public servants' SERVE the public - the word servant is the noun/subject derivative of the verb to serve - service is not employment unless an individual is indentured - got it?

Posted by Guest (Post 416736)

yes, richielion - entitled to go to work every day and serve the people of the state of n.j. to insure that their needs are met. and in exchange for that i will receive the salary and benefits delineated by my contract. that's as far as entitlement goes.

Posted by Guest (Post 416748)

Yes, and free to work with separation from the marketplace. Working for a entity that doesn't have to earn a profit to stay in business. So all you people just watch as everything falls around you and say "what does that have to do with me". Public sector union guys just refuse to get it.

Posted by Guest (Post 416613)

PUBLIC EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!
YOU DID NOT HIRE THEM!
YOU DO NOT SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS!
DISPUTE THAT!

they work for a government entity and their paychecks are signed by that entity's fiscal officer/treasurer. they do not remit payments to you for their taxes, pensions, 401ks, and health covg. they do not request approval of their vacation time from you. DISPUTE THAT!

they go to work every day to provide a service: first responders, doctors, nurses, patient care givers, prison guards, garbage men, landscapers, motor vehicle inspectors, weights & measures inspectors, teachers, investigators, complaint bureau staff, professional credential reviewers/licensers, army, navy, marines, air force, coast guard, yada, yada, yada. those services are for YOU! use them or not! and if you don't want them - tell your elected officials to take them off the book...and then see what they tell you!

you do little more than fund local, county, state and federal governments. you elect people to make decisions for you re how your government will be run and how THEIR employees will be paid. and if/when you do not like the decisions that are made, it is your right and responsibility to vote for someone else. if you want to question the amount of $ paid to public employees or anything else...call your elected officials! they work for you because you elected them!

you can call all you want for the end of salary and benefit increases for public workers - and maybe someday you will be heard - but you will have to find a politician who will listen first! what i cannot understand is why you do not call for the elimination of waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs and services that your governments continue to support. that is where true government overspending is found.

Posted by Guest (Post 416613)

PUBLIC EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!
YOU DID NOT HIRE THEM!
YOU DO NOT SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS!
DISPUTE THAT!

they work for a government entity and their paychecks are signed by that entity's fiscal officer/treasurer........

.....what i cannot understand is why you do not call for the elimination of waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs and services that your governments continue to support. that is where true government overspending is found.

Posted by Guest (Post 416773)

And right here we have the REASON there is "waste, fraud, abuse and useless, overlapping programs that your governments continue to support":

The government EMPLOYEES who waste, commit the fraud and abuse of taxpayer money taken from them, and who DO NOTHING to EXPOSE the lazy, incompetent, ENTITLED employees, managers, and union reps that perpetuate this crap!!!!!