Ooo, an anti-Clinton post! Try putting it on the right thread instead of posting after swilling your XXX Kool-Aid.

:a20::a20::a20:

Snarky? That's how you interpreted my question? Wow, not sure how you got that, but I will try to make an effort to explain it further, although I fear I may be just wasting my time. First of all, you made a lot of presumptions in your posts. For example, you said, "It sounds as though some who speak of abortions being butchery would actually go to this extreme" - the extreme being that a pro-lifer would disown their daughter for having an abortion. All that tells me is that you know nothing about the character of most people who are pro-life. In general they are not just pro-life, they are pro-human, pro-family - you don't just throw a life away whether it is growing inside of you or it's your 16 or 20 year old daughter who decides to do something that you feel may not be in their best interest.

Second, my question to you was - "And you think having an abortion is something you just get over?" - which was in response to your statement about a minor taking her parents to court over having an abortion and how that would be something from which one could never heal. Do you not realize the torment many women, very young and older, have gone through after an abortion? Talk about carrying something with you for a lifetime and a difficult healing process!

So no, I would not force my daughter to do anything, but I would in love and concern, talk to her about all options available to her so that she at least has a chance not to live with a lifetime of regret.

And finally, I'll address your name calling in the above post. I am hardly a Neanderthal. In fact, I'm probably younger than most people on this forum and to boot, I'm a woman! A conservative, pro-life woman and proud of it!

:BigApplause:

Went over your head, huh? Try reading "Witty Replies for Dummies." They make a special version that they dummied down for liberal trolls. :loco:

i love animals but i do not understand the upROAR of thousands for the lion while there is silence over 60 million babies sliced and diced!

Dear guest: Whenever a liberal gets his/her backside up against the wall they revert to what if? arguments like this one to divert the discussion
This topic is not about a raped little girl. This topic is about the harvesting of body parts by Planned Parenthood, an organization that is funded by taxpayer money and despite their denials performs substantially most of the abortions in this country.

The fetal research, a poster submitted, that explained it was supported by Republicans did not reflect the selling of body parts by Planned Parenthood but again it really doesn't matter if they did because it is illegal and it is morally wrong and ethically dangerous because it crosses the line. People are either moral or immoral and party line is immaterial..and again we see another liberal strawman.

We see this strawman argument alot with Obama and liberals in general and we see liberals circle their wagons to protect their own like they are doing with Planned Parenthood.

What this really is all about is that liberals got caught red handed and it displayed how the rights of the unborn are violated right up to birth.

Abortion is murder. Abortion encourages recklessness and irresponsibility. Abortion is fooling with mother nature and mother nature doesn't like to be fooled with. And abortion has led to Planned Parenthoods open market for disbursing body parts and legal or illegal it is dangerous and crosses the line because people with entitlement mentalities can rationalize anything as right for the common good. Nazi Germany did it, and its being done now in the Middle East and Africa they do it with machetes we are doing it with so called science.

So if my granddaughter were raped I would not encourage to be raped again by an abortion.

Personal Best Regards:

That is a very powerful statement. If only those who so adamantly support this movement of abortion without question, knew or cared about the effect that abortions have on many women. The repercussions often last a lifetime. It is not something you go through without lasting emotional scars that often exhibit themselves behaviorally and/or psychologically. I do not know this through first-hand experience, thank God, but have been the confidant to many who have. It is so heart-breaking.

No matter how it is rationalized or digested or re-stated......a life is being deleted.
And not without consequences.
The approach that "life" is not until such time as...........is nothing more than a legal definition of the status of the fetus at some point in time.
Lawyers using, abusing or hiding behind the law.
The real question is.....at any point in the gestation the fetus is a viable creation that lives both in the womb (temporarily) and outside the womb permanently.

Abortion is the termination of a given life.......no matter how rationalized.
And most of all contrary to some who would make abortion a political/partisan issue.....IT IS a moral issue.........
To use abortion as vote bait is as immoral as the act itself!

Can you imagine if Republican veterinarians were responsible for the slicing and dicing of 60 million unborn puppies? PETA and Liberals woulds be protesting in the streets!

You are correct in what you say, but we have a law in place that now is the law.

What shocks me, especially on TOTV with all the grandparents that live here, is the posts defending the killing. I suppose these people saw sonograms of their daughters and/or granddaughters and saw that little head, and other features but come on here and triumph in killing them.

That, to me, is something I will never understand.

You are correct in what you say, but we have a law in place that now is the law.

What shocks me, especially on TOTV with all the grandparents that live here, is the posts defending the killing. I suppose these people saw sonograms of their daughters and/or granddaughters and saw that little head, and other features but come on here and triumph in killing them.

That, to me, is something I will never understand.

Do you really think that the one poster on here that defends abortions, is from the villages? I think he is troll and there has been several misstatements made by him suggesting that.

I can almost/almost see how someone could defend the abortion law, but I cannot see how anyone/ANYONE could defend the disgusting practice of piecing out the body parts and selling them for a profit. And yet, the same folks that advocate this disgusting practice are also against executing convicted murderers. Only in America.

Many years ago, a dear friend of mine and her husband wanted to start a family. They were delighted when she got pregnant, and devastated to find out a few months later that their child had a fatal genetic condition. Carrying the child to term also posed a significant risk to my friend's life. After much prayer and after consulting with their physician and their minister, she had an abortion. Because the genetic condition was extremely rare, their physician asked if they would allow their baby's body to be used for research. Understanding that such research might help prevent other parents from experiencing the tragedy and grief that they had, they signed the papers. Having lived through this experience with them, I have come to believe that these decisions are best left to families and their doctors, and that it is very dangerous for governments to be involved in anything so personal and private.

Thank you for a very good post.

However, only about 1% of abortions are due to necessity: medical, rape, incest. Getting the parents' permission is the same as organ donation. Selling body parts is much different, regardless of how those parts are used. It is a moral issue. In your case, or your friend's, it was admirable that they donated the baby to science. Selling body parts due to avarice regardless of final disposition of the parts, is disgusting and immoral.

Senate Vote Fails to Defund Planned Parenthood - NBC News


The senate failed today in its efforts to defund Planned Parenthood. The final vote was 53-46, 60 votes were needed to pass.