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Guest 09-06-2011 06:08 PM

Hello! They sell the foodstamps to their brothers, and use the case for cell phones, cigarettes, booze, drugs, jewelry, manicures, etc...while their kids live in squalor. My Dad was a lineman 40 years at the Edison Electric Co. He tried a stint as an office person. He went back to climbing poles because he could no longer stomach going to their homes to turn of the power where the kids weren't warmly dressed. Caddy in the driveway, gold covered adults, big TV while kids sat on bare floors with no shoes or sock in January!

Guest 09-06-2011 06:22 PM

I have a family member who applied for welfare because he lost his job driving a NYC Taxi and didn't want to drive at night as a new hire for a different company. He applied for welfare, as a lark, and was accepted. He is disabled and that helped, although he has a degree in accounting from a very good college. He then applied for SSI and was rejected. On appeal he was accepted and received a years retroactive SSI payments and the medical benefits that go with it. He's been on the dole for the past 30 years or so, still with that college degree in his pocket. Why?; because it's comfortable enough, he has a rent controlled apartment and he eats regularly. How many more people are comfortable enough to forget about working?

Guest 09-06-2011 06:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390967)
Bugs.

I can repeat myself too.

Don't have to. I go to the supermarket and watch the poor buying steaks, beer, junk food etc. with my taxpayer money.


See, it is easy....

There are always exceptions and outliers just as there are with the rabid right wing posters who don't represent the vast majority of the most conservative ilk. The vast majority of people who find themselves relying are public assistance would rather not. I know, I worked in the public social service system for many, many years. :cus:

Guest 09-06-2011 06:37 PM

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.......The vast majority of people who find themselves relying are public assistance would rather not. I know, I worked in the public social service system for many, many years. :cus:

So why does the ENABLING continue? Somebody has to start placing some limits on the dependency and push people out of the nest so they have a reason to TRY to fly on their own.

Oh. I forgot. Stopping the enabling is great campaign material to use in hateful accusations of "cruelty" and "bigotry" of the other party.

Guest 09-06-2011 06:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391103)
I have a family member who applied for welfare because he lost his job driving a NYC Taxi and didn't want to drive at night as a new hire for a different company. He applied for welfare, as a lark, and was accepted. He is disabled and that helped, although he has a degree in accounting from a very good college. He then applied for SSI and was rejected. On appeal he was accepted and received a years retroactive SSI payments and the medical benefits that go with it. He's been on the dole for the past 30 years or so, still with that college degree in his pocket. Why?; because it's comfortable enough, he has a rent controlled apartment and he eats regularly. How many more people are comfortable enough to forget about working?

Excellent post Richie. The key word is comfortable. Our ancestors struggled every day to feed and clothe their family. America was founded by people who woke up every day and struggled to clear their land feed their livestock and plant their crops. They got up before the sun and worked until the sun set. Their only comfort was Sunday when they praised their lord and rested.

Taking charity from the government would not have been an option. Where is that pride of our ancestors? Over 45 million collecting food from the government? That is absolutely horrible. People used to chop wood or do anything for a meal. Now the government gives it to you and puts it on the deficit. Really, is this going to be our attitude forever? Is there no pride?

Guest 09-06-2011 06:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391115)
Excellent post Richie. The key word is comfortable. Our ancestors struggled every day to feed and clothe their family. America was founded by people who woke up every day and struggled to clear their land feed their livestock and plant their crops. They got up before the sun and worked until the sun set. Their only comfort was Sunday when they praised their lord and rested.

Taking charity from the government would not have been an option. Where is that pride of our ancestors? Over 45 million collecting food from the government? That is absolutely horrible. People used to chop wood or do anything for a meal. Now the government gives it to you and puts it on the deficit. Really, is this going to be our attitude forever? Is there no pride?

This is pretty much what Star Parker is saying. People are stripped of their pride and dignity because the left perpetuates the need to be at the teat of the government. She is a brilliant black woman who believed the liberal lies. She has broken free and is working to teach others how to be free also. It is difficult tho, just like when a crab tries to escape the bucket and the other crabs keep pulling it back down in.

Guest 09-06-2011 08:02 PM

Abraham Lincoln:

"Property is the fruit of labor. Property is desirable, is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently to build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence."

Guest 09-06-2011 08:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391150)
Abraham Lincoln:

"Property is the fruit of labor. Property is desirable, is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently to build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence."

:BigApplause:

Guest 09-06-2011 08:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391097)
Hello! They sell the foodstamps to their brothers, and use the case for cell phones, cigarettes, booze, drugs, jewelry, manicures, etc...while their kids live in squalor. My Dad was a lineman 40 years at the Edison Electric Co. He tried a stint as an office person. He went back to climbing poles because he could no longer stomach going to their homes to turn of the power where the kids weren't warmly dressed. Caddy in the driveway, gold covered adults, big TV while kids sat on bare floors with no shoes or sock in January!

Katz -

Who exactly is "their" and "they"? Sounds basically racist to me on the surface of your post. Explain exactly who you meant as "their". Do not say "those on food stamps" or some malarky like that. As I said, it sounds like a racist remark.

Guest 09-06-2011 08:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391162)
Katz -

Who exactly is "their" and "they"? Sounds basically racist to me on the surface of your post. Explain exactly who you meant as "their". Do not say "those on food stamps" or some malarky like that. As I said, it sounds like a racist remark.

:sing: When a liberal runs short of argument or clear thought, he turns to racism.

Q: What do you get when you offer a liberal a penny for his thoughts?

A: Change

Guest 09-06-2011 08:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391162)
Katz -

Who exactly is "their" and "they"? Sounds basically racist to me on the surface of your post. Explain exactly who you meant as "their". Do not say "those on food stamps" or some malarky like that. As I said, it sounds like a racist remark.

Definition of THEY
1a : those ones —used as third person pronoun serving as the plural of he, she, or it or referring to a group of two or more individuals not all of the same sex <they dance well> b : 1he 2 —often used with an indefinite third person singular antecedent <everyone knew where they stood — E. L. Doctorow> <nobody has to go to school if they don't want to — N. Y. Times>
2: people 2 —used in a generic sense <as lazy as they come>

as from Websters dictionary-http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
Sorry, can't help you as I see no reference to the race of the individuals in the definition.

Guest 09-06-2011 08:57 PM

right on ABE!!!

Guest 09-06-2011 09:10 PM

gotta love Honest Abe

Guest 09-06-2011 09:15 PM

Katz,

No picture came through. I can only imagine what you sent. I can pull pictures off the Internet, too, of any family I care to post.

You have said all you need to say and I have formed my opinion of you quite clearly.

Guest 09-06-2011 09:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391180)
Katz,

No picture came through. I can only imagine what you sent. I can pull pictures off the Internet, too, of any family I care to post.

You have said all you need to say and I have formed my opinion of you quite clearly.

B1 - I'll go for your put up or shut up. You say when where and lead the way. I'll match you step for step.


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