Posted by Guest (Post 385485)

Wasn't a dig at the Tea Party at all. If I'm going to take a dig at them, it's going to be that they were freshman telling the seniors what to do and threw a temper tantrum any time that they didn't get 100% their own way. Even when the debt debacle was over, he said he got 98% of what he wanted. The Tea Partiers who insisted on absolutely no taxes (let's table the debate on the value of that) said "we're a minority that refuses to let anything at all pass and we're willing to default the country to get our way".

Personally I think the Tea Party started out with real grass-roots concerns - there was a lot of disorganization which is *natural* in a situation like that. But I think a good percentage of the Tea Party has been hijacked by idealogues who put re-election over national good. I heard, during the back and forth, some politicians and pundits actualyy SAY that they COULD NOT vote for the "Grand Compromise" because they would lose their jobs in 2012.

They put their jobs ahead of something where they would have had the overwhelming share of the 'win' in the negotiations and would have made a better 'down payment' on the deficit than what we got.

Remember - the Tea Partiers were a MINORITY of a Party that had a slim majority in ONE branch of the legislature.

Posted by Guest (Post 385126)

You want examples? I'll give you examples.

A republican women's group with Obama's face on a donkey pictured on a food stamp with watermelons, fried chicken, ribs and more: http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/s...6.3d67d4a.html

The Marietta GA bar owner selling Obama-as-a-monkey t-shirts and sees "nothing racist" about it: http://www.barackoblogger.com/2008/0...ls-racist.html

Hiw about saying that Obama is the next Hitler, Mao and Stalin all in one with some of the most ridiculous claims and demagoguery I've ever seen: http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/...on-black-storm

"Republicanmarket" has a booth at the GOP convention selling racist pins: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.c...pin-in-it.html

Someone in New Jersey thought it was a good idea to distribute leaflets to people's homes - up to 4,000 of them (this would probvably be the lunatic fringe - no named organization came out for this one): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_128862.html

This is what I found in a fraction of a second.

Now, I don't have access to the video libraries that I've seen on cable where people were marching around with the Obama-face-on-Hitler signs, etc. But it's not hard AT ALL to find this stuff.

You all saw it (as did I) when the liberals did it to Bush - but you haven't seen any of it when the conservatives do it to Obama?

And to villagegolfer in particular - it's one thing to ask me for examples of what I'm talking about, like Bucco did, and I'm happy to explain as soon as I have time. But you just assumed I couldn't back it up and proceeded to name-calling. You kind of jumped the gun there. Heck, I disagree with RichieLion a LOT but it's quite civil.

..and about the "you liberals"? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and simply believe you don't know me very well and haven't read too deep into my posts. Explain to me how I'm one of those "liberals" when:

- I support a flat tax.
- I support 2nd Ammendment AMONG OTHERS. Although I don't own a gun anymore, my wife does and I believe it is the right of every law-abiding American to defend themselves.
- I support limits on welfare
- I support enforcement of our immigration laws.
- I support vouchers in school choice programs.
- I support free speech, even (and sometime ESPECIALLY) if it's not Politically Correct.
- Although I support gay marriage, I also believe that no church should be forced to perorm such a ceremony if it goes against their religious dogma.

I could go on, but I hope you get my point.