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Guest 08-07-2015 05:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1097132)
"W" did a five year analysis of voter fraud, and found there was next to no voter fraud. Very few people have been convicted of voter fraud. One number that was thrown out there was 350+ a little cases of voter fraud in the ten billion votes cast.

In a Fox interview with a So. Carolina official, it was stated that 20,000 (do know the exact number) people were registered at two addresses. The Fox interviewer never asked the next most logical question, "how many of these people voted twice?" The state knew that these people were register in two places. How could not know, if these people voted twice?

Somebody here asked why didn't the blacks use the id that they used, when they applied for welfare? Funny you should ask! The ids that you need when applying for welfare are drivers license, library card, and voter id card. You also have to show your social security card. "W"'s Help America Vote Act allowed voters to use their social security card at the polling booth. What is wrong with showing your Social Security Card on election day?

Does anybody here think that any Republican official is going to admit that new voter id law in their state was directed at race? Of course, one party is going to bring up race, and the other isn't. You still can't dance away from the just plain stupid comment the Speaker of the Penn. House stated.

Here is a novel idea try getting black, and Hispanic votes instead of doing everything possible to make sure that they don't vote.

National voter id in this high-tech age. Now, you are talking about a hacker's dream. Russian, and Chinese hackers could screw up our election process, and sit back and really laugh at us.

If you read all of the court rulings on voter id requirements from all of the states, you will find that the courts do not disagree with the idea of requiring voter id, simply in some cases problems with the methodology. Example, in Pennsylvania the court did not feel that the state id card was easy enough to secure for disabled and informed voters. It had nothing to do with race in any of these states.

Race in this issue is a very very made up political ploy. All states and there are 34 of them now who require this id, have all adjusted to each court ruling to make it easier to get the id.

As a result of starting this thread, I made it a point to read the court rulings, the historic aspects, the fears, etc.

This is a political issue for those who wish to make one of it....IN REALITY there are no race issues here and that was never the intent going way back.

Using this as a political issue to call those who support identification for one of our most cherished rights is just plain wrong and a terribly false narratives.

What I think is racist after doing my reading is that one party tells the blacks of this country that they are being picked on instead of addressing the issues confronting those of black skin.

The issues that are specific to race are not being addressed and my next thread will be about race and crime.. THAT needs addressing on both sides without considering anything but United States Law.

Guest 08-07-2015 06:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1097153)
If you read all of the court rulings on voter id requirements from all of the states, you will find that the courts do not disagree with the idea of requiring voter id, simply in some cases problems with the methodology. Example, in Pennsylvania the court did not feel that the state id card was easy enough to secure for disabled and informed voters. It had nothing to do with race in any of these states.

Race in this issue is a very very made up political ploy. All states and there are 34 of them now who require this id, have all adjusted to each court ruling to make it easier to get the id.

As a result of starting this thread, I made it a point to read the court rulings, the historic aspects, the fears, etc.

This is a political issue for those who wish to make one of it....IN REALITY there are no race issues here and that was never the intent going way back.

Using this as a political issue to call those who support identification for one of our most cherished rights is just plain wrong and a terribly false narratives.

What I think is racist after doing my reading is that one party tells the blacks of this country that they are being picked on instead of addressing the issues confronting those of black skin.

The issues that are specific to race are not being addressed and my next thread will be about race and crime.. THAT needs addressing on both sides without considering anything but United States Law.

I did it again...and it is now becoming less funny....

The sentence in my post above that says "did not feel that the state id card was easy enough to secure for disabled and informed voters."

Is supposed to be...."did not feel that the state id card was easy enough to secure for disabled and infirmed voters."

I don't know what to say except I never said I was smart, could type or in this case understand irony !!

Guest 08-07-2015 08:11 PM

Strict photo ID in effect: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. In addition, North Carolina and Wisconsin have strict photo ID laws that are not yet in effect. What changes did these states make to make it easier to get a photo ID?

Photo ID in effect: Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, and South Dakota.

Strict non-photo ID in effect: Arizona, North Dakota, and Ohio.

Non-photo ID in effect: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Washington.

No ID required at polling place: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C. do not require ID to vote

30 states plus DC do not require photo id to vote.

In Pennsylvania the court did not feel that the state id card was easy enough to secure for disabled and infirmed voters. It had nothing to do with race in any of these states. If disabled, and infirmed voters weren't allowed to vote by the voter ID law, Penn. would have swung to Romney. That is what the Speaker of Penn. house had in mind, when he made the Romney comment. That is truly unbelievable.

Thank you for pointing out the typing error. That truly went over my head. I copied that sentence and originally typed "informed (?)" in my response. I am laughing at myself.


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