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We are fortunate because in my absence Abby10 has given a better response to the question that I ever could have in post #117. :thumbup: . :highfive: .:clap2: I would have written of Election, Free Will, Faith being a Gift from God, and how these concepts are inter-related. It gets quite complex. Abby10's answer cuts to the how of it rather than writing about it. I would only add that if a person is genuinely seeking Faith, a good course of action would be to attend some services at an Evangelical church. Evangelical churches are churches that stress the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ, personal conversion experiences, Scripture as the sole basis for faith, and active evangelism (the winning of personal commitments to Christ). Most Baptist churches meet this definition. In The Villages I have found Emmanuel Baptist Church to be such a church. I would make it a point to identify myself as a visitor, get to know some people, and at some point seek a private meeting with the pastor to let him know that I was a "Seeker." And, see where it goes from there. Carl in Tampa . |
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"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Chapter 18 verse 22 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13" "Romans 1:26-27 “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." I don't think God approves... |
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Leviticus 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. Deuteronomy 14:8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass. COPUFF......OUT WEST IN THE MILE HIGH STATE! |
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You pose questions about homosexuals and by your tone with pre-conceived notions. Did God create homosexuality? Well allow me to present one recent finding The New Atlantis Journal of Technology & Society Special Report Sexuality & Gender Findings From The Biological Psychological, Social Sciences Fall 2016 Lawrence S. Mayer MB MS PhD Paul R. Mc Hugh, MD "The understanding sexual orientation as an innate biological fixed property of human beings- the idea that people are born that way is not supported by scientific evidence" So based on this long and intensive study homosexuality is a choice. And, since God provide man with free will, it is a free choice. Those who claim people are born that way do so because it creates legitimacy and validation for such a lifestyle and do so with all the political ramifications. I am of the belief of Jesus teachings and so I do not accept the sin but forgive the sinner. Hate is wrong. I do believe in live and let live. My objection to this homosexual contingent is that they have become radicalized and have moved from acceptance to encouragement and I do not believe it is morally right to subject young minds to the belief that this is an acceptable/alternative lifestyle. Personally I am offended over the fact that movies all seem to range from soft porn to hardcore porn. I liked the filters of old it made for better movie making. so now we moved from an overindulge of heterosexual sex to homosexual sex and not for story content but for profit. they use to put pornographers in jail, now they are celebrated . If one change the channel they will find the same thing. We need to return to the word of God. We need to return to the church of our choice. we need to pray for guidance. We need to love one another Personal Best Regards: |
I preferred the "old gay". You suspected someone was gay, but they never said they were...
The "new gay" has to tell you they are gay... yuck! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk |
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Someone asked if God approved of gay behavior...I posted the answer. I'm a "free person" not encumbered by dogma and silly rules. Quote:
Homosexuality is caused during fetal development when the brain is undergoing "sexual specialization". Men's and Women's brains develop differently, hormone releases are what "wire" it as it develops. These hormone releases do not occur properly in a "gay" brain. It's NOT their fault but it's NOT normal and shouldn't be "normalized". REAL gays ARE born that way...but so are psychopaths, pedophiles, and many others who behavior we find disgusting. What about all the other CRAP we subject children to? Religion, equality...ALL bullsh!t too. They used to put lots of people in jail that is now celebrated. Churches let gays in now... Loving everyone...accepting everyone...is what put us in this f@cked up situation. Loving blacks/Hispanics/gays is bringing America to it's knees. What we NEED to do is say...enough is enough...we tried being nice and it's destroying us. Losers are losers and they SHOULDN'T be put in charge of anything. We need to go back to "winners" running things...the BEST running things. No more lowered standards or quotas...either you qualify or you don't. No more placing the #15 finisher on the podium as third place because they have black skin...and NO other qualifications...only to fill a quota. God won't save us...acting/thinking RATIONALLY will. |
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"How many stars are there in our galaxy? 100 billion stars In one calculation, the Milky Way has a mass of about 100 billion solar masses, so it is easiest to translate that to 100 billion stars. This accounts for the stars that would be bigger or smaller than our sun, and averages them out. Other mass estimates bring the number up to 400 billion.May 21, 2014" "Kornreich used a very rough estimate of 10 trillion galaxies in the universe. Multiplying that by the Milky Way's estimated 100 billion stars results in a large number indeed: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars, or a "1" with 24 zeros after it.May 17, 2017" That's a LOT of stars...a pretty big waste of space if we're the ONLY planet with life...IF making life is the purpose and it's not just random. Maybe our universe is a "science lab" and all the "God" students (a STEM major for sure) have to create a self sustaining "terrarium" (planet) to pass the course and move on. Like when you made hydrogen and oxygen in chemistry lab. Part of "Getting your "God" degree". I have another question for the "believers". Why is it...God did a whole lot of communicating with people way back when...giving them stuff, talking to them, giving them orders...but has been completely silent ever since Jesus over 2,000 years ago. How come God doesn't "do anything" any more? No plagues, no destroyed cities, no burning bushes, nobody becoming salt. I'm just curious if you've thought about that at all. Jesus was SUPPOSED to have returned with his kingdom...even before Paul started his campaign to spread "Christianity". What happened? What's the official word on the delay? Mechanical? Weather? |
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He's lumping us all together because we're on the same continent. He's forgetting the natives, indians, what MOST Mexicans are...are far removed from white Europeans genetically. You could easily call them a different species too. NOT as far removed as the negros...but differentiated enough to be a different species. xeno"phobia" is what allows a "people" to survive. Otherwise you end up with a generic mutt. If we continue to breed whites with the other "races" we will lose blonds, redheads, we will lose blue, green, and hazel eyes. And MOST importantly...we will lose that drive, the intelligence, the ambition that only the white race possesses. Asians didn't make western civilization, the America Indians didn't do it. And certainly the negros didn't do it. White people built the world you live in. White people invented the technology you love. |
Pascal's Wager.
Pascal, Blaise - Pensees - Section 3
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Just because YOU weren't "happy" until you passed off responsibility for your life to an imaginary benefactor...doesn't mean everyone who hasn't been "saved" isn't happy. Are YOU happy living here in the villages with 99% white people? Happier then if you were living on MLK Blvd in Chicago? Then WHY berate me for admitting the reason WHY it's so much better here than there. NO negros. If you were HONEST with yourself...you'd agree with me. And you'd be MUCH happier! |
Religion is based on unquestioning faith. You either developed it in your childhood, or you've accepted it in adulthood. Either way, you have it or you don't. Fine. That's great. But having it doesn't give you the license to judge those who don't, or judge those whose lifestyle and beliefs are different from yours. Practice your religion and be happy.
I love the teachings of Jesus. Love your fellow man. Turn the other cheek. Heal the sick. Feed the hungry. Don't kill, lie, cheat, steal, or covet. And while doing those things love your God. Hey, it's a good plan for us all. Too bad so many who profess to follow these teachings don't actually do so in real life. When it comes to your government, society, community standards, and daily thought you refuse to do them. You choose to follow the Joel Osteens, Jerry Falwell Jrs., and Pat Robertsons rather than the teachings of Christ, or simply decide to follow your religion only when it benefits you and yours. That's not Christianity. It's hypocrisy. |
When I don't kill, lie, cheat, steal, or covet it is for ME...not some imaginary god.
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And you missed the one close to my heart that forbids shellfish. No more shrimp cocktail. But.......... you missed more than that. You missed the sequel in the New Testament. On the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray. But he became hungry and was desiring to eat; but while they were making preparations, he fell into a trance; and he saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground, and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the air. A voice came to him, “Get up, Peter, kill and eat!” But Peter said, “By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean.” Again a voice came to him a second time, “What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.” This happened three times, and immediately the object was taken up into the sky. --- Acts 10:9-16 Note that this was more than a revocation of ancient dietary law. It was instruction to the devout Jew, the Apostle Peter, that the message of salvation through Jesus was not only for the Jew, but also for the Gentiles. Based upon this experience, Peter delivered the Gospel message to the Roman Centurion Cornelius. Carl in Tampa . |
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You just have to come to God by your own accord and indeed it is difficult to expose all your vulnerabilities, biases and lay open your heart. However the rewards are ever-present and ever- lasting
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Over the last decade, white evangelical Protestants have declined from 23% to 17% of all Americans. To put this into perspective, during this same period, the proportion of religiously unaffiliated Americans has grown from 16% to 24%. Younger adults who find themselves at odds with conservative Christian churches on issues like climate change and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights. As a result, the median age of white evangelical Protestants is now 55, while the median age of religiously unaffiliated Americans is 37. While 26% of seniors (ages 65 and older) are white evangelicals, only 8% of Americans under the age of 30 claim this identity. After decades of equating growth with divine approval, white evangelicals today are finding themselves on the losing side of demographic changes and LGBT rights, one of their founding and flagship issues. White evangelicals have clearly seen Trump’s presidency as a possible way to stave off changes that would constitute the real end of an era where their cultural worldview held sway. White evangelicals have made a desperate end-of-life bargain with Trump
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Here we go again with the same "deplorables" trope. I prefer the story written by author in WSJ that claimed more Democrats switched their vote for Trump because they did not agree with their party's social/cultural agenda and that more and more Democrats are crossing over the line . To add credibility to this author's claim the Democrat Party who held a tight line as late as November 2016 on abortion are now telling potential 2018-2020c Democratic candidate that if the hold a pro life position they will still be welcome and supported to run for political office And recently Nancy Pelosi on behalf of the Democratic Party disavowed Antifa. Why. Antifa told the Democratic Party that they hated them as much as Republicans I just wonder what it will take for progressives to come to their senses and recognized that their affliction Trump Derangement Hydrometry is illogical and counter-productive both to the nation and to their party Personal Best Regards: |
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Gay people to blame for Hurricane Harvey, say evangelical Christian leaders
yeah, REAL Christians! NOT!
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The labels-the democrats have them selved come to the realization that even they are tired of the RACIST CHARGE. It was amusing to see SHARPTON attempt to move to the center and then to move back to being a RACE BAITER-remember Tawana Brawley??????? THE FACTS ARE: Obama a person with NO PROVEN TRACK RECORD was elelcted president with 56% of the vote. Blacks are 13% of the population and Obama took 98% of the black vote. I am Jewish and though I did not vote for Obama, Jews are 1.5% of the US population and Obama got 86% of the Jewish vote. Yes, that percent is correct. It was a shock to me as well. However, most Jews live in the cities, large population centers with large number of electoral votes so their vote is more important than the actual numbers. HOW ANYONE DOES NOT SEE THE ABOVE A RACIALLY MOTIVATED ESCAPES ME AND ESCAPES REALITY. FACT with some fuzzy math, to get 56% of the vote with 14-15% of the vote explained above, Obama received roughly 42% of the non-black non-jewish vote. Obama was voted a unique opportunity in our history to BRING OUR PEOPLE TOGETHER. In stead Obama CHOSE to tear this country MY COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY apart. NOW with all of us tired of the race card the new MINDLESS CHANT is Nazi. THIS IS UNEDUCATED STUPIDITY. Trump is a capitalist. Under capitalism the state is servant to the citizen. Under Nazism, the citizen is servant to the state. OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHO IS DOING IT. INSTEAD OF THEM VS US THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ALL WHAT AND NEED. THINK ABOUT THE MIND CONTROL BEING FED TO YOU BY OUR LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS THE MAJOR SOURCES OF INFORMATION IN THIS COUNTRY? |
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Gays blame Harvey on evangelical Christians-simply INSANITY. Forgive me but I also wonder about the sanity of many christians. IRMA-are they going to blame that on Trump? On Obama? On gays? On god? On the Jews? HOW MUCH MORE CLEAR CAN IT BE THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN INSANE. Oh, the next one already forming is JOSE. Must be the fault of whomever you do not agree with-the Mexicans, Central Americans, Trump and the wall. HOW FOOLISH PEOPLE ARE. |
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So to your question the presence of God from the time the Jews spread the word of one God will not escape man. The pivotal issue always comes back to the fact that God gave us free will to chose. And the admonition is to chose wisely. Personal Best Regards: |
Liberals are quite juvenile. If a KKK member supports our President, the the president is racist and a white supremacist. If BLM supports Obama or Hillary, it doesn't mean anything.
So, if a Christian (the country's majority religion) says something stupid, then liberals accuse ALL Christians of thinking alike. Of course, if they were Christian, they might understand the faith a bit more, but........ Atheists do not believe in GOD, so why would we trust them to believe in the goodness of America? Why would we even trust them with our national security? There are a lot of Christians in jail. Does that make all Christians criminals? Democrats, or probably mostly just liberals run amok and shotgun their radical accusations, regardless of thought or logic. If you wish to be convincing, you are better off attempting argue the views and policies, rather than your emotional and petulant crying about someone's character. After the character of such as the Clintons, it's hardly credible to dwell on Trump's exploits from a dozen or more years ago. |
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And God punishes you if you don't choose wisely? You have NO "free will" if "God" is looking over your shoulder the whole time judging and taking notes on everything you do. There's a name for that...it's called passive aggressive. Telling you that you have "free will" and then punishing you for using it. |
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