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How quickly you forget the financial collapse 8 years ago under Bush, Obama saved all of us from a depression. Now, say thank you!

How do you figure that? Guess you don't remember the inflation created by Carter? Obama saved nothing. Recovery began to come about in spite of him, not because of him.

Exactly!

Obama's experimenting with investing in solar energy and wasted money on NOT providing shovel ready infrastructure jobs, put us further in debt. Then, on top of that Obamacare. What more needs to be said about that except his stealing almost a trillion bucks from Medicare to give away as freebies to Medicaid. Take from those that earned it to give to those that did not, should be his motto.

And we do not need to go into how many more are poverty level than when he began his 8 year golfing vacation. Or how many have left the work force and are still not working. Do I need to add any more fuel to the fire, because there is plenty more that his inexperience has done to harm America.

Speaker Ryan will tell those coal miners in WV and KY who will be losing their healthcare, 'try to hang on two more years and we will try to pick up eight senate seats so we can pass a replacement', or don't worry Trump will be reopening those coal mines any day now, just try not to succumb to that black lung disease.

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Do you have something against working folk? You seem to think that if the Democrats block a replacement, just for spite that it is a good thing. I really don't think they will block a new program. Anyone of them knows that the Republicans are saving their butts by repealing a program that is about to implode. I already know that Sen Manchin will vote for a new bill. They are not all petulant Obama groupies. Besides, the new bill will be bipartisan in creation.

Oh my how quaint of you ... the country came together despite Obama. Your knowledge of recent history is incredibly lame. It is better to say that despite the GOP Congress not working with Obama he succeeded anyway.

the utter BS of this comment is driven directly by how much Fox news you watch.

Obamacare needs fixed, not replaced. Why not just change the things you don't like and keep that which you do. Why do we have to make these things so hard and party driven.

Why fix it when it is easier to replace it with something that is NOT two thousand pages long and nobody has ever read the whole thing? We can still have decent health care without having to justify preserving a NAME. If the ego is so great that there is a need by the left to preserve a name of a program that near destroyed America, what is the point? SO that the left can feel that they have redeemed their racist selves in the eyes of their peers. Kind of like Hollywood patting themselves on the back by voting to give each other trophies and awards. What does it do for the regular people?

Taking the salt and dirt out of sea water makes it drinking water. Taking the crap and wealth redistribution out of Obamacare makes it health care. Yes, the new plan will still be health care, just not all the gov imposed and subsidized crap that is hurting America. I am surprised that the left would insist on keeping the label Obamacare after seeing how it has almost destroyed our economy and the middle class.

The Republicans were locked out of the creation of Obiecare when they had some good input for it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Republicans are inviting the left in to work WITH them on creating a decent replacement, the left not only refuses but is trying to disrupt the country. Why does the left insist on destroying the fabric of what holds America together? The Republicans learned, so why can't the Democrats learn? Are they so hell bent on socialism that they are ignoring how great America once was? Republicans did not refuse to work with the Democrats. The Democrats were insisting that America be Europe and Republicans resisted. The left has gone off the track in an attempt to carry too many passengers along with it.

Obamacare is doomed, regardless of whether or not it is replaced. The left doesn't even want to know about it. Congress (Democrats) stole almost a trillion bucks from Medicare/SS to pay for Medicaid. The states that opted in for the program were given start up money for Medicaid by the gov. That was temporary. Now, the money has to come from the state to subsidize the Obamacare version of Medicaid and that means that each state participating MUST increase state taxes in order to pay for Obamacare/Medicaid. Those states are going to hit the middle class really hard, because it is the middle class that pays a lot of state taxes, including property taxes and fuel taxes, etc. The left is oblivious to this and will attempt to ignorantly deny it until someone draws them a picture. Someone has to pay for ObamaCare and the cost is high. That is why it is so hard to find a replacement that will not make all the gov subsidized addicted have to go cold turkey. The middle class has been hit the hardest by Obiecare and that is why Hillary lost.
It is time for the Democrats to come back from the far, radical left of socialism and become the great American DemocratIC party it once proudly was before the radical socialists destroy what Democrats used to stand for.

All this BS so about 50 million worthless minorities can stay "healthy" so we can KEEP housing them, feeding them, and supporting their kids.

It's called protection money. We pay them and they don't rob us. How's that working out? Answer: not so good.

Have you looked at the fact checking of ryan's townhall and the lies he told?

[QUOTE=Guest]Open it up to competition, like they did with Medicare Part D?

So the Democrats will vote for anything so they don't look bad, do you ever look at the history of past legislation? You are someone, just like trump, that just makes things up and think no one will notice. What a buffoon!

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No, i think he got it from Fox.

So your okay with not getting insurance because you have a pre-existing illness and companies, when you get sick, being able to cancel you?

Of course the repubs always have everything thought out, and I have some land in Florida for sale cheap, it's only under water when it rains.

Is your car insurance based on your driving history? Homeowners insurance based on past occurrences? Liability insurance based on your past actions?

ALL insurance is based on YOUR risk. The more they think they'll have to pay out...the higher the premiums. Why do you think you're "special" and should have US subsidize you?

Don't we do ENOUGH for the poor? We house them, we feed them, pay for their TV and cell phone...now we're supposed to keep them alive as long as possible so they can cost us more? Why? What do WE get from them besides misery?

And I have a whole race of people who are "equal" only when they get the standards lowered and a quota...I'll sell you...cheap too.

Be very careful what you wish for.

And you think ole Harry Reid burying anything remotely Republican and not even bringing it before the Senate for a vote is working together? Kinda hard to vote for or against something when not even given the opportunity.

What about Pelosi's reasoning that they won't even consider anything written by a Republican?

Yep, that's the Republicans not working with Obama.

It's a game...it's theater to make you THINK there is "honest" representation. EVERYTHING that is important to them gets done. It's the little social bullsh!t issues that they fight over. Gay rights, marriage, welfare, etc.

As Sen Chuck Schumer famously said "When pigs fly" or as Gen Colin Powell said "You broke it, you own it".

It's always good to hear from a poster who has a direct line to a senator commenting he will vote for a bill which hasn't been written yet.

Maybe he doe have a direct line.

I hope some day your down and out, and it can happen real easy, then you will change your tone. I paray for people like you.

Tell me how it is going to explode. And I don't want your opinion, I want facts.

Some common sense comes into the picture.

Did someone say it was going to EXPLODE??

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Please don't paray for any of us...

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Your post shows your a complete idiot. "a program that near destroyed America" What a buffoon!

You might want to work on your reading comprehension and improve your spelling before you go around calling people idiots and buffoons...

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Temporarily, down and out is one thing. Living off the backs of others as a lifestyle is not. Helping the first get back up is not the problem.

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How about the programs that ARE destroying America...affirmative action and quotas.

What part did you not agree with? What part is in error, according to your vast knowledge? Or, are you just throwing stones out of anger and humiliation? :popcorn:

Obviously -- the rule about not disparaging others has not been implemented. Grow up people -- the issue is whether or not there is a replacement to the aCA under the Republican government's repeal plan. So far, nothing -- and they are now verbally at odds with the PEOTUS. We will see what happens to the ACA, the people of the US who are benefitting from the ACA, the changes in insurance premiums (probably greater than in the past 3 years if prior history is any indication) and the blowback when prescription prices, Medicare and Medicaid all begin to feel the ramifications of the 6 actions by the Congress this weekend.

First step is to repeal. It won't hurt Medicare or Medicaid. We just do a reset, that takes place over a period of a year or two, but have a definite expiration date. That will force them to work on a replacement and the Dems will work with them or be labeled as obstructionist and uncaring hacks. They know this and they also know that they would not get re-elected if they do not take the invitation to work together. Same tactic they used on the GOP for 8 years. But, this time one party does not get locked out when it's put together.

Yep, you nailed it. :thumbup:

The Repub's have painted themselves in a corner...and are now flailing at what to do. :1rotfl:

They have almost exclusively and myopically (to the detriment of the nation and with a +-25% approval rating)...focused on repealing the ACA.

Now that they have the ability to do it, a few of the smarter GOP'ers are waking up and trying to figure out what is really involved...and ALL of the negative ramifications that will occur as a result.

Republicans HAVE NEVER, (not even when they had majorities or had Dem's that would happily have worked with them on doing something), attempted to help poor Americans (or those with preexisting conditions) get affordable healthcare...so of course they became livid when the Dem's were able to do it.

But now we're supposed to believe, that they really are concerned with the 20 million that now have healthcare... that didn't have it previously?

So why is the most important thing now, over any other national issue...to remove ACA as soon as possible?

Because that's the price they have to pay...for being against the best interests of American citizens.

And we're also supposed to believe that..."we'll figure out the details of a replacement later?"

I mean really, who is ignorant enough to believe the GOP on that? :ohdear:

The problem of course, is that if they don't jump on ACA...they will be attacked by those Un-Americans with the attitude of... "I've got mine, screw you."

Combined of course, with the ignorance of those Trump supporters...who don't realize that ACA IS 'Obamacare.' :ohdear:

Trump Supporters Now Realize Repealing ACA Will Take Away Their Healthcare – The Business Standard News



Like I've said, the next year (I now don't think Chump will even make it two), will be a laugh riot watching his cultists try to spin each and every one of his ignorant statements/acts. :popcorn:

Good luck y'all. :D

If you have to ask why do they HAVE to get rid of Obiecare, then you are not thinking straight. I'll give you a hint. ObieCare is no longer AFFORDABLE this year.

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