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Posted by Guest (Post 1271603)

Ah, but you refuse to admit how much the wealthy pay. If not for big business, we would not have the great standard of living. I won't call you names for being ignorant. Being uninformed is a moral crime though (IMO). I've lived all over the world and I have yet to see a socialist country where the middle class AND the lower class live as well as they do here. Our lower class and even poverty class families live as well as the middle class in many other countries. You can even bring up all the stats you wish, but the point is, how many other countries have their lower class living in A/C homes with Internet, cell phones and cable TV? I've been in middle class homes, where the norm would be a room A/C, dial up Internet and only one TV per home.

Wealth envy is very unbecoming, and Americans deserve Hillary so that some day soon they will understand what they had and what they gave up to further a political agenda. The rich will ALWAYS be rich, but the middle class will be the first to suffer from politics. You can tax the rich all you want but it ain't gonna pay down the national debt and even though the poor may see some of the benefits, the middle class standard of living will continue to suffer. Eventually, once the liberals get there way we will only have two classes, where the rich continue to prosper and the middle class blend in with the lower class. There will not be a middle class.

And I won't call you names for being a fool. Before you attack someone, why don't take the time to see what that person was responding? The person that was responding to said corporation pay more than ordinary citizens. They don't. Who the hell mentioned the wealthy?

So, our standard of living the best, if not the best, in the entire world. So, why do we have to "Make American Great Again"? Has it slipped? Sure! Material items are the way you judge standard of living? How about being happy! If you have a lot of play toys, and if you aren't happy, what good are they? How do we compare with other countries concerning suicide, and murder rates?

If Trump wins, and his tax agenda becomes law, what happens if GDP doesn't double? His program is a roll of the dice. Now, you have pushed the middle class in with the poor, and you did it in one big hurry.

Hillary doesn't attack the middle class. Where does that comment that she is come from the seat of your pants? I think that left something overseas.

I am a moderate Republican. Just because the far right has gone off the grid, doesn't mean the middle has moved. Hillary will work with Republicans to get thing done. Slow and steady is better than quick and foolish. Man, do I hate defending Hillary. I hope, if elected, she is impeached in one big hurry. The Republicans have been attacking her for 30 years. It will only get worse, if she elected. Nine Benghazi hearings. With the emails, and foundation, I am sure they will be to top that.

Trump is a disaster waiting to happen.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1271601)

It has always been WE ALL WANT BUT NO ONE WANTS TO PAY.
From that comes-the tax breaks I get are fair. The ones you get are not.
First of all, our tax code is 86,000 pages. I think, I expect we all agree THAT IS INSANE. There is a paragraph called the STARBUCKS SECTION that makes Starbucks a manufacturer with appropriate tax breaks-BECAUSE THEY ROAST COFFEE. IT IS SIMPLY INSANE. Under OBAMA half of americans pay not tax-according to the way I think they should have some skin in the game before they have the right to vote and tell those who do pay taxes how to spend their money.
I did not get any of them having been self employed so I expect I think differently than many people do. Your business funded RETIREMENT PLAN, 401k, 403B, pension, medical care, etc WAS TAX FREE INCOME. Even social security. If, you worked for an employer, what ever you paid into this system your employer paid the same TAX FREE, for you. I PAID 13% OF MY GROSS TO SOCIAL SECURITY.
As to CORPORATIONS THAT PAY NO TAX. Realize a CORPORATION is not a human being IT IS SIMPLY PAPERWORK. The PROFIT is distributed to the owners-THE SHARE HOLDERS-in the form of dividends AND THE DIVIDENDS ARE TAXABLE.
Oh, I have no pension. I am living on dividends from stocks purchased with money I HAVE PAID INCOME TAX ON. I still pay TAX on the dividends I receive on money I ALREADY PAID INCOME TAX ON.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS UNFAIR? Oh and if you have a retirement plan, an annuity, etc etc etc YOU TOO ARE AN EVIL CORPORATE OWNER.

Corporations aren't human being. Maybe you should tell that to the Supreme Court. They ruled that they are in the Citizens United case. Our election are now up for sale.

What income tax programs did Obama institute to get to the point that 47% of people don't pay FEDERAL INCOME TAXES? They are paying Social Security, Medicare, State income and sales taxes. A lot of people, it isn't coming out of disposable income. Take a ride to the Ocala Forest, and see how many are living there. He extended "W's" tax cut program to everyone, but the highest tax bracket people. Take a look at the number of seniors that are in the 47%. It is over 10% and growing.

Are dividends taxed twice? Sure, they are. Are you going to sit there for a second, and say that the federal income code doesn't favor corporations? You point the one bad thing, and we suppose to feel sorry for the owners of businesses.