You are truly beyond belief. Did you read the entire article or just the first paragraph? Make Republicans look bad! All Boehner had to do was put the bipartisan Senate bill to the floor for a vote, and it probably would have passed. The Hastert rule, where is that in the Constitution, prevented him from doing it. Obama doesn't have to try to make the Republicans look bad. They do a damn good job of that themselves.

OK, Simple Simon, why did the immigration bill that Bush was pushing in 2007/2008 fail? The make up in the Senate for those years was 49 Democrats, and 49 Republicans, and 2 Independents, that caucused with the Democrats. Neither party had a 60 votes to pass a bill.

Please read this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compre...rm_Act_of_2007

The point of the post that you are replying to in a political hack kind of way is that immigration reform is a big and complicated deal. It is not going to be resolved with political tricks by either party.

My post was not to defend either party, as yours was very party oriented.

It was defending a very short sighted, uninformed spin on the issue that in this case was trying to make Democrats heroes and Republicans bums.

Some day, post something that does not speak to your party. Read, get informed and then partake.

My reply was not intended to do anything along party lines, EXCEPT to dispel the implication in the post to which I replied.

That implication was that only one party stood in the way of any legislation, and to also allow readers to be aware of the trickery being used.

While I am a Republican, I owe them not BLIND ALLEGIANCE, and began my post acknowledging that the Republicans had no reason to pass.

If you wish to continue thinking Democrats are with no sin, and Republicans are evil, I certainly cannot change your mind. It appears you do offer BLIND AND TOTAL loyalty.

First of all, I am a moderate independent that fully intends to vote for John Kasich in the Fl. primary. I am not the problem. The Republicans have gone so far to the right that moderate has lost its meaning even in its own party. If that is your definition of evil, they are evil. I think that they are more in the line of inflexible. The only way for problems to get corrected in a divided government is, if the parties work together. Why is this a problem?

To other issues with your original post, the Republicans have nothing to gain. So, addressing the illegal immigration issue in a humane way is wrong. Deporting them is the only way to go. "W' didn't agree with this. Jeb, Rubio, unless he has changed his mind, Ryan, and other high ranking Republicans don't agree with this.

Take a look at the names of the party of 12 that were involved in the 2007 immigration legislation. They were all Senators with long time experience in government. Both parties had a hand in killing the 2007 legislation, and for totally different reasons.

The recent illegal immigration bill past the Senate. In the article you referenced, it stated that House Republicans saw no immediate benefit to approve or even vote on the bill. What TRICKERY are you talking about?

Sending a bipartisan bill to the House that would go a long way to correct the illegal immigration problem is trickery, because the Senate Democrats knew that the Freedom Caucus would oppose the bill. The Senate Republicans weren't aware of the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus would vote against the bill. Since the Republican house wouldn't have a majority of the majority, the bill would never hit the floor for a vote. The House Republicans say that there is no Hastert rule being applied there despite all evidence to the contrary.

Senate Republicans would have to be total morons to be tricked in this manner.

I am not blind to the fact that most of the people posting on this board are Republicans. As such, they have assumed the far right position of their party. There is only one way to fix a problem their way. Anyone that doesn't agree with them doesn't know what they are talking about. Trying to get people here back to some sort of reality isn't blind loyalty to the Democrat party. It is a road to nowhere, and I am driving on at full speed.

You are pretty mixed up. The Republicans have moved too far to the middle/moderate, and that's the problem. Now, we have some conservatives being elected to congress and they are bumping heads with the moderates and liberals on the far left (all the Dems). What we need is more moving to the right. You are not fooling anyone by saying you are going to vote for Kasich. We have heard you time and time again putting down the Republicans for being too far to the right. Nope, you are another liberal that can' t fool anyone.

This country has just about accepted socialism. The enemy of Freedom. And liberals are cramming socialism down our throats. Keep pushing and you will get a civil war and it won't be pretty.

Your posts are becoming more and more clear as to your hypocrisy.

All your posts have one theme and one theme only...anti Republican and hooray for Democrats.

That is fine but your hypocrisy in trying to hide that is sad.

You totally distorted the link, the thought and the reason for the post.

You took a link that blamed both parties, and honed in on only the Republicans.

Then you say the Republican Party is moving so far right, when the candidate getting all the back slaps on the Democratic side is an admitted and avowed socialist.

The Republicans are not moving anywhere, and in fact the internal squabbles within the party are trying to stay put.

It has become apparent that you are a progressive, and that's fine, but you are not proud of it because every post you make is cloaked in this anti Republican thoughts.

You really very seriously cherry picked the link, ignored when Democrats foiled any movement and honed in on the other, without once making a statement

Step up and be honest...stop blaming posters for how they believe. At least they say it...make your case clearly on what side of any issue and where you stand. Stop making general statements about parties.

Your posts are really hard to read and respond to as you swing around changing history, always cognizant that you must demean Republicans but try to hide it.