But yet...we're slaves of God? We are guaranteed "by God" absolute freedom...liberty...except from him?

Anyone find that ironic?

How about now?

How about now?

Happy you finally admitted you are a racist AND and athiest, all in one full swoop. Saves everyone a lot of time in reading through all of your rhetoric...we all know where you stand, and it ain't on the side of the righteous!

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Absolutely!

"... endowed by their Creator...."


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Why the United States is NOT a Christian nation.


When Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, he spoke of "unalienable rights endowed by our Creator." He used generic religious language that all religious groups of the day would respond to, not narrowly Christian language traditionally employed by nations with state churches. Through ratification of the First Amendment, observed Jefferson, the American people built a "wall of separation between church and state." Early national leaders understood that separation of church and state would be good for all faiths including Christianity. Jefferson rejoiced that Virginia had passed his religious freedom law, noting that it would ensure religious freedom for "the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, the infidel of every denomination." President George Washington, in a famous 1790 letter to a Jewish congregation in Newport, R.I., celebrated the fact that Jews had full freedom of worship in America. Noted Washington, "All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship." Washington's administration even negotiated a treaty with the Muslim rulers of north Africa that stated explicitly that the United States was not founded on Christianity. The pact, known as the Treaty with Tripoli, was approved unanimously by the Senate in 1797, under the administration of John Adams. Article 11 of the treaty states, "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…."
Americans should be proud that we live in a democracy that welcomes persons of many faiths and none. Around the globe, millions of people still dwell under oppressive regimes where religion and government are harshly commingled. (Iran and the former Taliban regime of Afghanistan are just two examples.) Many residents of those countries look to the United States as beacon of hope and a model for what their own nations might someday become.

While the founders made clear the separation of God and state they did not believe or intend for them to be mutually exclusive. Better than half the men who signed the Declaration Of Independence were pastors.

God has always been a part of America.

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Wow -- awesome.

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Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact


You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



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Thank you. Some "Christians" are apparently unable to fact check, and worse, trust Huckabee to know what he's talking about.

Meanwhile look at the mean-spiritedness of this post. The viciousness of Liberalism/Femo-Fascism is on full display.

What are they defending? Answer: their own conceit and sense of superiority. ... no wonder they're so hostile.

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That information was taken from the Worship column in the WSJ wherein a pastor made claim that 33 of the 56 signers were ordained pastors. I often keep copies of such facts.

Perhaps I misread the article but I am not a liar. a lair intends to deceive.

WHAT IS MORE ALARMING is your reaction not with one but three consecutive threads with insanity spread over the entire posts. Pal you need to get a grip because your response was way over the top and you apparently have unresolved issues . No reasonable person would respond in the manner as did you. I will keep you in my prayers.

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Every adjective used by Coldnomore to describe you is 100% accurate.

You certainly are not someone who should be speaking of Christian values. Your judgement of people, your hateful unfounded debasement of other people is truely stunning.

And you DO lie...you DO plagerize. You ignore when it is pointed out to you, but you do lie and you do deceive.

Your hypocrisy is difficult to even describe. You seem to be lacking any conscience at all.

The point being discussed is that the Founders were indeed believers, whether claiming to be Christian or not. I fail to see why it is so abhorrent for the folks on the left to recognize the many good points related to those that believe in a higher form of divinity. The idea of persons caring for one another is reinforced by the instructions dictated by the Bible. Or, do liberals believe they are superior to any divinity? In my opinion, those that seem to get an allergic reaction to the mention of the Bible, seem to have something in their background that they are ashamed of and do not wish to face that sin. Believers are convinced that there is a higher form of forgiveness.

Sorry, did not mean to bring religion into politics. Someone, as always will inevitably mix the two. Maybe because there is so much corruption in politics? I generally stay away from discussing religious beliefs. That is taboo in today's PC world. I guess the next step will be for someone to bring up the ever present issue of abortion and it's religious ramifications.

That seems rather harsh. From what I have seen in the short time I have been visiting this forum, is that he/she seems to be very civil. Some of you seem to attack anyone that does not agree with you, even when they are able to articulate their view. In my opinion, it is OK to refute someone's statement with factual evidence, but to make personal attacks is against most forum rules. You and a couple others seem to have personal grievances against that poster. This is just my observation, and I may be wrong.

Back then...ALL learning was done at religious schools.

"Religious denominations established most early colleges in order to train ministers. They were modeled after Oxford and Cambridge universities in England, as well as Scottish universities. Harvard College was founded by the Massachusetts Bay colonial legislature in 1636, and named after an early benefactor. Most of the funding came from the colony, but the colleges began to collect endowments early on. Harvard first focused on training young men for the ministry, and won general support from the Puritan government, some of whose leaders had attended either Oxford or Cambridge.[1] The College of William & Mary was founded by the Virginia government in 1693, with 20,000 acres (81 km2) of land for an endowment, and a penny tax on every pound of tobacco, together with an annual appropriation. James Blair, the leading Church of England minister in the colony, was president for 50 years, and the college won the broad support of the Virginia gentry. It trained many of the lawyers, politicians, and leading planters at the time.[2] Yale College was founded in 1701, and in 1716 was relocated to New Haven, Connecticut. The conservative Puritan ministers of Connecticut had grown dissatisfied with the more liberal theology of Harvard, and wanted their own school to train orthodox ministers.[3]"

It is not that liberals "believe they are superior to any divinity", it is that they object to exactly the sentiment expressed above. If you cannot see the smug, "holier than thou" implication of your post, it is infuriating. No, we don't have "some sin in our background" we have EDUCATION in our background. The Bible repeats a collection of myths from Egyptian, Greek, and older civilizations. If people would pay as much attention to the origins of the Bible as to what it says, you would be able to speak with more authority and less conceit. '''Noah''': Flood Myths Are Far Older Than Bible | Time.com
10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse