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Guest 11-16-2011 04:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418747)
Wow! Did this thread get off the train track. Like many posts here, I guess it's the dueling rants that satisfy too many people.

I guess that explains why Larry, Moe and Curly continue to poll more support combined than any one or two of the GOP candidates who really might be qualified to be POTUS and have a chance to beat President Obama.

That kind of explains how our government got to where it is now and why it will be so difficult to change it back to the kind of government we all desire and expect.

VG spot on Geeez

Guest 11-16-2011 04:46 PM

Believe me fella's...
 
some of us have worked with Harry, Moe and Curly, married them, slept with them, coddled them, had their children, and exceeded them in this world with solid brainpower and guts. Moreso, those of us who survived them, and fella's like you, know it! We know they and you are alive and well here in TV and are heralded and hallowed by you...even those of you who change your screen name.

Behold, the world of woman as bright, capable, in touch, and makers of change, for it is lo upon us....ha ha ha and there is not a thing you can do no matter how much your tiny minds and little you know what's spew venom here. Lady Doc and I are both doc's apparently. And, if her life was some-thing like mine, I imagine there was a struggle everyday against dullards like you who often tried to get in the way of deeds well done and the long way to go.

You opine vague justice, your own sense of socio-economic policy,
and the tiny world of partisanship in which you live. This is your only soap box and you take it seriously. No room is left for thmajority who are morecalm and moderate with regard to the world and world
justice, for the many who may still believe in "hope" and "change". Anyone who has to look up (probably on Wikepedia) Hillary Clinton,
needs to find either a wet nurse, or another planet on which to take up space. Why I even lower myself to respond in this forum is entirely insane
to me, bahhaa, bahhaa, bahhaa, damn you got my goat this time.

Guest 11-16-2011 04:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418773)
some of us have worked with Harry, Moe and Curly, married them, slept with them, coddled them, had their children, and exceeded them in this world with solid brainpower and guts. Moreso, those of us who survived them, and fella's like you, know it! We know they and you are alive and well here in TV and are heralded and hallowed by you...even those of you who change your screen name.

Behold, the world of woman as bright, capable, in touch, and makers of change, for it is lo upon us....ha ha ha and there is not a thing you can do no matter how much your tiny minds and little you know what's spew venom here. Lady Doc and I are both doc's apparently. And, if her life was some-thing like mine, I imagine there was a struggle everyday against dullards like you who often tried to get in the way of deeds well done and the long way to go.

You opine vague justice, your own sense of socio-economic policy,
and the tiny world of partisanship in which you live. This is your only soap box and you take it seriously. No room is left for thmajority who are morecalm and moderate with regard to the world and world
justice, for the many who may still believe in "hope" and "change". Anyone who has to look up (probably on Wikepedia) Hillary Clinton,
needs to find either a wet nurse, or another planet on which to take up space. Why I even lower myself to respond in this forum is entirely insane
to me, bahhaa, bahhaa, bahhaa, damn you got my goat this time.

Now there is a rant that makes alot of sense.:a20:

Guest 11-16-2011 05:09 PM

Does it?
 
Really? T'aint a rant, it's truth.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418782)
Really? T'aint a rant, it's truth.

Well, what would I know, I'm a dullard.:jester:

By the way I like the way you stereotype people.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:41 PM

Wow! you don't take conversation very well Doodlegirl.
I am assuming you are pointing to me. My world is much larger than this forum. I just enjoying learning what others think.
I am not sure why you would think that I think so lowly of women. I am married to one, same one for 39 years, that shares my office and runs our business. I think you have misplaced your obvious dislike for conservatives, men and me!
You are the one that suggested I do research on Hillary. I did and since I do not have a leftist library at my finger tips I went to her personal biography site and a few others and read what I could, I can read believe it or not.
I then reported what I found.
Nice women I suppose, if you are with her, maybe not so much if you are not.

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You opine vague justice, your own sense of socio-economic policy,
and the tiny world of partisanship in which you live. This is your only soap box and you take it seriously. No room is left for thmajority who are morecalm and moderate with regard to the world and world
justice, for the many who may still believe in "hope" and "change". Anyone who has to look up (probably on Wikepedia) Hillary Clinton,
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Anyone who has to look up (probably on Wikepedia) Hillary Clinton,
needs to find either a wet nurse, or another planet on which to take up space. Why I even lower myself to respond in this forum is entirely insane
to me, bahhaa, bahhaa, bahhaa, damn you got my goat this time.
By the way is this you being the "majority who are more calm".
I think it is you who has taken this way too seriously.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:46 PM

ME? Stereotype?
 
It is called a generalization, not a stereotype. However, yes, it was specific to you and yours on the political forum. Don't get antsy with me or you will be very sorry...in public. And yes, that is a verbal threat for someone who has not only changed a screen name here recently, but who continues to add to the drama when our Country is at a pivotal point in it's history. If you can't help, don't hurt.

Likewise, I think you and your cohorts should at the very least revert to
calling people by their title....President Obama...President Bush...and so forth,
your familiarity in terms of the calling of names is outrageous. This is MY Country, and my allegiances you are tredding upon. Like it or leave it.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:51 PM

Notlongago...
 
I must congratulate your wife for sharing your office and your business. If
it is a success, be sure to give her a hug on your way to vote.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:52 PM

You go, Doodlegirl!
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 418773)
some of us have worked with Harry, Moe and Curly, married them, slept with them, coddled them, had their children, and exceeded them in this world with solid brainpower and guts. Moreso, those of us who survived them, and fella's like you, know it! We know they and you are alive and well here in TV and are heralded and hallowed by you...even those of you who change your screen name.

Behold, the world of woman as bright, capable, in touch, and makers of change, for it is lo upon us....ha ha ha and there is not a thing you can do no matter how much your tiny minds and little you know what's spew venom here. Lady Doc and I are both doc's apparently. And, if her life was some-thing like mine, I imagine there was a struggle everyday against dullards like you who often tried to get in the way of deeds well done and the long way to go.

You opine vague justice, your own sense of socio-economic policy,
and the tiny world of partisanship in which you live. This is your only soap box and you take it seriously. No room is left for thmajority who are morecalm and moderate with regard to the world and world
justice, for the many who may still believe in "hope" and "change". Anyone who has to look up (probably on Wikepedia) Hillary Clinton,
needs to find either a wet nurse, or another planet on which to take up space. Why I even lower myself to respond in this forum is entirely insane
to me, bahhaa, bahhaa, bahhaa, damn you got my goat this time.

I like your style. You may be a "doodle girl," but you doodle with an acid pen. I admire that.

Yarnspinner

Guest 11-16-2011 05:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418791)
It is called a generalization, not a stereotype. However, yes, it was specific to you and yours on the political forum. Don't get antsy with me or you will be very sorry...in public. And yes, that is a verbal threat for someone who has not only changed a screen name here recently, but who continues to add to the drama when our Country is at a pivotal point in it's history. If you can't help, don't hurt.

Likewise, I think you and your cohorts should at the very least revert to
calling people by their title....President Obama...President Bush...and so forth,
your familiarity in terms of the calling of names is outrageous. This is MY Country, and my allegiances you are tredding upon. Like it or leave it.

Wow, you want to threaten me in public. I suggest you calm down or at least take a pill. : )

Guest 11-16-2011 05:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418791)
It is called a generalization, not a stereotype. However, yes, it was specific to you and yours on the political forum. Don't get antsy with me or you will be very sorry...in public. And yes, that is a verbal threat for someone who has not only changed a screen name here recently, but who continues to add to the drama when our Country is at a pivotal point in it's history. If you can't help, don't hurt.

Likewise, I think you and your cohorts should at the very least revert to
calling people by their title....President Obama...President Bush...and so forth,
your familiarity in terms of the calling of names is outrageous. This is MY Country, and my allegiances you are tredding upon. Like it or leave it.

That is the problem with your ilk, you think it is your country. It is our country and I am giving this president the same amount of courtesy your cohorts gave to Bush for 8 years.

Guest 11-16-2011 05:58 PM

Thanks Yarnspinner, I am so tired of this being called "Political Forum"
 
It is no more a political forum than I am an alien. It should be called the
Repub's place! I sense as we grow into our 'golden years' we are doing so
kicking and screaming even after the supreme court allowed us to vote. Just
Sayin.This is like lopsided justice...and people are afraid to step up to the few posters here who spend their days bashing the current administration.
Maybe I did land at Woodstock, and some of that mud is still in my Croc's.

Guest 11-16-2011 06:08 PM

MY Ilk loveithere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It is my Ilk who voted for President Obama, my ilk who are saddened by the
burden he inherited, and confused about people who can be so hateful at a first administration President, a black man with graying hair who has more Secret Service coverage than any other President in our history. Give me a break, do you suppose you could do better? If so, get thee to Iowa. When some crazed person with your mentality puts a gun to the President's
temple, will you be happy then? It is your rhetoric that causes the angst
and pain in this Country. I told you not to go at it in public. I've been there and I'm a victor, more than you will ever, ever know.

Guest 11-16-2011 06:08 PM

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I must congratulate your wife for sharing your office and your business. If
it is a success, be sure to give her a hug on your way to vote.
Reply With Quote
It is and I do everyday with love.

Doodlegirl, you really need to calm down. The whole world is not against you. It is just hard to discuss things with someone who is so mad and sure that her way IS THE ONLY WAY.
Maybe a little room for GIVE on your side too!

Guest 11-16-2011 06:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418799)
It is no more a political forum than I am an alien. It should be called the
Repub's place! I sense as we grow into our 'golden years' we are doing so
kicking and screaming even after the supreme court allowed us to vote. Just
Sayin.This is like lopsided justice...and people are afraid to step up to the few posters here who spend their days bashing the current administration.
Maybe I did land at Woodstock, and some of that mud is still in my Croc's.

Don't feel bad. All forums go in cycles. Many forums for 8 years had a field day when Bush was president. Liberals were relentless in their verbal abuse of his administration. Many conservatives were frustrated too. Like I said, it is cycle-able. (is that a word?) I learned to take it and I think the liberals should put their man pants on and not cry about it.

Guest 11-16-2011 06:19 PM

My Big Girl Pants have been on most of my life!
 
Suddenly we want to back off the hate and anger you spew here.
You will note that in this forum there are not huge numbers of posters,
rather, recurring posters...an 'old boys (girls) network'. As long as I
have breath I will speak to the ideals of this Country, the hope that
we will survive current and future tribulations, and that as a citizen
I will participate in righting the wrongs. While you are entitled to
your opinions, it appears you don't like it much when someone calls
you on your point/s. Trust me, it takes every strength and fibre of my being
to pass up the "Political" Forum, and today's bigotry just came calling; I had a weak moment. Nothing I will or have said will change your mighty minds. "And that's the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a wimper."

Guest 11-16-2011 06:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418813)
While you are entitled to
your opinions, it appears you don't like it much when someone calls
you on your point/s.

Did you even make one, let alone challenge one "point" made by Loveithere?

I'd like to know where in this entire thread that happened. I don't see it.

Guest 11-16-2011 06:43 PM

And another little voice is heard from
 
the union! If I didn't make the point Mr. Lion, then you will never get the point. Am I supposed to kiss the Mussues fanny for working for her hubs?
I mean seriously, read from where I popped in. Make a point? Get
serious...here are people spewing venom, you too, day after day, suddenly
someone says, hold it, everyone goes to Wikepedia to find out about
Hillary Clinton, then there is the call down to me to take a pill...really
Richie, remember the poor Lion who had no heart...but he learned.
I only stand to serve, my friend. I one of the constant reminders of a
democracy.

Guest 11-16-2011 06:50 PM

So, ya see, VK
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 418747)
Wow! Did this thread get off the train track. Like many posts here, I guess it's the dueling rants that satisfy too many people.

I guess that explains why Larry, Moe and Curly continue to poll more support combined than any one or two of the GOP candidates who really might be qualified to be POTUS and have a chance to beat President Obama.

That kind of explains how our government got to where it is now and why it will be so difficult to change it back to the kind of government we all desire and expect.

From reviewing the posts, you can see that you haven't missed a thing nor have you overlooked anything. It's the nature of the business. It's nasty, vile, reprehensible, and generally an appalling line of work.

Who, really, in their right mind, would pursue it?

Yarnspinner

Guest 11-16-2011 07:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418813)
Suddenly we want to back off the hate and anger you spew here.
You will note that in this forum there are not huge numbers of posters,
rather, recurring posters...an 'old boys (girls) network'. As long as I
have breath I will speak to the ideals of this Country, the hope that
we will survive current and future tribulations, and that as a citizen
I will participate in righting the wrongs. While you are entitled to
your opinions, it appears you don't like it much when someone calls
you on your point/s. Trust me, it takes every strength and fibre of my being
to pass up the "Political" Forum, and today's bigotry just came calling; I had a weak moment. Nothing I will or have said will change your mighty minds. "And that's the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a wimper."

Geez. Get a life!

Guest 11-16-2011 07:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418806)
It is my Ilk who voted for President Obama, my ilk who are saddened by the
burden he inherited, and confused about people who can be so hateful at a first administration President, a black man with graying hair who has more Secret Service coverage than any other President in our history. Give me a break, do you suppose you could do better? If so, get thee to Iowa. When some crazed person with your mentality puts a gun to the President's
temple, will you be happy then? It is your rhetoric that causes
the angst
and pain in this Country. I told you not to go at it in public. I've been there and I'm a victor, more than you will ever, ever know.

This should be shut down. Nobody wants what was posited above.

Guest 11-16-2011 07:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418819)
the union! If I didn't make the point Mr. Lion, then you will never get the point. Am I supposed to kiss the Mussues fanny for working for her hubs?
I mean seriously, read from where I popped in. Make a point? Get
serious...here are people spewing venom, you too, day after day, suddenly
someone says, hold it, everyone goes to Wikepedia to find out about
Hillary Clinton, then there is the call down to me to take a pill...really
Richie, remember the poor Lion who had no heart...but he learned.
I only stand to serve, my friend. I one of the constant reminders of a
democracy.

You sounds crazed in this post, and I still don't know what you're ranting about. I think it best to leave you alone now.

There's no point to this.

Guest 11-16-2011 07:22 PM

Not to worry, Doodlegirl
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 418799)
It is no more a political forum than I am an alien. It should be called the
Repub's place! I sense as we grow into our 'golden years' we are doing so
kicking and screaming even after the supreme court allowed us to vote. Just
Sayin.This is like lopsided justice...and people are afraid to step up to the few posters here who spend their days bashing the current administration.
Maybe I did land at Woodstock, and some of that mud is still in my Croc's.

You're welcome for the voice of support, Doodlegirl. I don't care where you landed or what you have in your Croc's (can't believe I said that!). I'm all for ya.

But that doesn't mean I'm gonna beat up on the other guy. We need to listen to the words; don't listen to the emotion. What are they saying? And it can be tough, 'cause sometimes they're not saying a lot. But it is worth the effort. What are they really saying?

There are 16 --yes, friends, 16 loyal Americans who, for whatever reason, think they should replace the current President of these United States.

I, frankly, am dubious. But I could be, might be, probably am, wrong. But I have to look carefully and weigh the criteria with great deliberation.

Cheers to all.

Yarnspinner

Guest 11-16-2011 07:25 PM

I have to laugh when some post about this forum being one sided...repubs inferred.
I just wish some of the dispensers of critical ve4rbiage about their opposition were around during 2007/2008....when Obama and others were vying for the nomination. Your counterparts in the opposition would be crying about how lopsided the posting was. And they might even have noted how nasty it got when ANYBODY challenged ANYTHING about the dem candidates.

Then after the election they all disappeared....some no doubt because they are disappointed by what the created in Washington. Others because they are realists knowing they could no longer defend the man they voted for as the talk continued to be further and further away from the walk.....

and there are many new members as well as the reincarnated (those from the past with a new identity so they could come back and rail some more. And there are some of us who said we would give Obama the first year before making a final opinion on him. I gave him until his first state of the nation. In my eyes he failed to deliver on his promises...then and he still has not.

The opposition philosophy has not changed hardly at all. Never stay on point or subject. Always, always bash anybody who challenges their man...and always without fail get in a Bushslap.

See if the archives go back that far and you will see for yourself.

btk

Guest 11-16-2011 09:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418806)
It is my Ilk who voted for President Obama, my ilk who are saddened by the
burden he inherited, and confused about people who can be so hateful at a first administration President, a black man with graying hair who has more Secret Service coverage than any other President in our history. Give me a break, do you suppose you could do better? If so, get thee to Iowa. When some crazed person with your mentality puts a gun to the President's
temple, will you be happy then?
It is your rhetoric that causes the angst
and pain in this Country. I told you not to go at it in public. I've been there and I'm a victor, more than you will ever, ever know.

Your out of control and I think you should be on the ignore list. Despicable.

Guest 11-16-2011 09:32 PM

Hey Yarnspinner
 
At first I thought you meant the 16 posters here...took me awhile. Yes, I too
am searching the potential candidates and ticking off those with the brain and brawn to maintain steam along a raggedy track. What is sad is that there is still time to see if what has been implemented can take hold. It feels
remote, but still possible. I don't think any of us recognized the damage
done in the previous administrations would throw this President under the bus
quite as quickly as it did.

Guest 11-16-2011 09:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418728)
So, you females are telling me that Hilary would have become famous and become Secretary of State if she did not marry Bubba Clinton and become first Lady? Yea right,And I have some swamp land to sell you. GEEZ!!!! : )

From many sources from the secret service and military, Hilary Clinton is arrogant and despises the military. She is a despicable and hateful woman who hooked onto Bubba even though he embarrassed her at every chance he could be his infidelities. She knew she was a nothing and going nowhere so she rode Bubba's coattails to the White House. She would have been respected if she divorced Billy Boy and made it on her own, which nobody thinks she could have.Nuff said.

And Laura stuck with the Shrub through his years when he was pickled in alcohol and who knows what else......

Guest 11-16-2011 09:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418883)
And Laura stuck with the Shrub through his years when he was pickled in alcohol and who knows what else......

Well, Michele aka: The Bitter One, has stuck with the dope addict Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama who has used drugs and maybe continues to use drugs. He openly drinks booze and refuses to quit smoking cigarettes. A drunk for a President, Hmmmm.

Guest 11-16-2011 11:19 PM

We'll Deserve It
 
Since the first few responses to the initial query in this thread, it's been rants about recent historical political figures and attacks on one another. Oh, and the occasional vitriol about the President who was fairly elected in the 2008 election. I don't think there's been even one attempted answer to the initial question.

Like someone suggested in another post here, if the American electorate is as bitterly ideologically divided as the handful of posters on this forum, we're going to deserve the government we get as the result, and the life-changing effect their continued polarized inaction will have on us, our kids and grandkids.

With thoughtlessness such as is demonstrated here, it's easy to see why the Congress doesn't work, and why even the super committee, which has such an awesome responsibility, has simply given up and gone home, unable and unwilling to negotiate an agreement on any single issue, even those that they admit they largely agree on. Unbelievable!

But based on how people conduct themselves here, not surprising, I guess.

Guest 11-16-2011 11:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418923)
Since the first few responses to the initial query in this thread, it's been rants about recent historical political figures and attacks on one another. Oh, and the occasional vitriol about the President who was fairly elected in the 2008 election. I don't think there's been even one attempted answer to the initial question.

Like someone suggested in another post here, if the American electorate is as bitterly ideologically divided as the handful of posters on this forum, we're going to deserve the government we get as the result, and the life-changing effect their continued polarized inaction will have on us, our kids and grandkids.

With thoughtlessness such as is demonstrated here, it's easy to see why the Congress doesn't work, and why even the super committee, which has such an awesome responsibility, has simply given up and gone home, unable and unwilling to negotiate an agreement on any single issue, even those that they admit they largely agree on. Unbelievable!

But based on how people conduct themselves here, not surprising, I guess.

I don't like this "Super Committee" anyway. The people's business being done is secret behind closed doors with no access is creepy and un-American.

That's just my opinion.

Guest 11-17-2011 09:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 418887)
Well, Michele aka: The Bitter One, has stuck with the dope addict Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama who has used drugs and maybe continues to use drugs. He openly drinks booze and refuses to quit smoking cigarettes. A drunk for a President, Hmmmm.

Please advice as to where you got info that obama is a drug addict. Openly drinking booze and being an alcoholic are not the same; you should know that. The drunk for a president was clearly Bush. You are going to fault someone for smoking? Come on now. And just to keep this on the issue of where you are getting this info, I am not and have never been an obama supporter. That is not an issue for me. I just want to know where you got your info. If you can not respond with where, I will conclude that what you posted is a lie.

Guest 11-17-2011 09:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419009)
Please advice as to where you got info that obama is a drug addict. Openly drinking booze and being an alcoholic are not the same; you should know that. The drunk for a president was clearly Bush. You are going to fault someone for smoking? Come on now. And just to keep this on the issue of where you are getting this info, I am not and have never been an obama supporter. That is not an issue for me. I just want to know where you got your info. If you can not respond with where, I will conclude that what you posted is a lie.

Bush quit drinking many, many years ago. Obama still drinks and smokes. In his book Obama admits he was addicted to drugs. It stands to reason that if you call Bush a drunk when he quit years ago, then Obama is a drug addict too.

Guest 11-17-2011 09:42 AM

Loveithere's information has come to him
 
directly from the planet Galactica, by way of the Wizard of Oz.:confused:

Guest 11-17-2011 10:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419023)
directly from the planet Galactica, by way of the Wizard of Oz.:confused:

Yea, but it wasn't easy, I had to contend with the wicked Doodlewitch. : )

Guest 11-17-2011 10:33 AM

I see everyone has rested up and are back at it again.
After letting it rest last evening I re-read the whole thread and what is very apparent is that even though this right leaning forum (of which I am one) has very set in stone opinions, It has been the left sounding or leaning posters that just can't help but throw flames, call names and threaten people.
To me this just poisons the koolaide, which ever kind you drink, and makes it impossible to discuss anything.
It is a shame that when someone can't make a point the next step is hate and vitriol.
How about expanding on your point with out ending the sentence with so sort of derogatory statement or name calling. You don't know but it may give someone something to think about! And may even give you something to think about.
And before I am attacked for painting with a broad brush, it comes from both side but usually as a response to an attack not a first volley.

Guest 11-17-2011 01:41 PM

Congress Address The Important Stuff
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 418927)
I don't like this "Super Committee" anyway. The people's business being done is secret behind closed doors with no access is creepy and un-American.

That's just my opinion.

I don't either, Richie. But the only reason it was formed was because the elected representatives in the House and Senate couldn't reach any kind of agreement on fiscal problems. So they appointed a "super committee" of only 12 members, representing the entire 535 to hammer out some answers that the larger group failed at.

So now it appears that even the super committee is going to fail to agree on anything. That's going to result in some automatic spending cuts to kick in, with no thought or concern as to the effect or what's going to be cut. I guess that way none of the 535 will have to take responsibility for whatever cuts occur.

But let me predict one other thing that I expect from the 535. Within a short time, they'll introduce legislation to overturn the automatic cuts that resulted from their failure. And we'lll be back where we started, borrowing 42 cents of every dollar qe spoend from the Chinese!.

In the meantime, our Congress has decided, with the "assistance" of the frozen pizza and potato grower lobbies, that tomato paste is a vegetable and french fries are healthy. So our school kids can continue to survive on pizza and french fries for school lunches. Does it take a degree in home economics to know that this legislation is simply ridiculous...and unhealthy!

Guest 11-17-2011 02:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419127)
I don't either, Richie. But the only reason it was formed was because the elected representatives in the House and Senate couldn't reach any kind of agreement on fiscal problems. So they appointed a "super committee" of only 12 members, representing the entire 535 to hammer out some answers that the larger group failed at.....

In the meantime, our Congress has decided, with the "assistance" of the frozen pizza and potato grower lobbies, that tomato paste is a vegetable and french fries are healthy. So our school kids can continue to survive on pizza and french fries for school lunches. Does it take a degree in home economics to know that this legislation is simply ridiculous...and unhealthy!

This is a prime example of how congressional politicians insist on micromanaging even the minutest details of citizens' everyday lives....

As if a local school board, or administration that hires the cafeteria managers and cooks are not capable of knowing what foods offered would work/sell best.

State-controlled school lunch programs illustrate the expansive power base the Statists insist on having and keeping.

Guest 11-17-2011 03:53 PM

Just saying hi
 
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I don't either, Richie. But the only reason it was formed was because the elected representatives in the House and Senate couldn't reach any kind of agreement on fiscal problems. So they appointed a "super committee" of only 12 members, representing the entire 535 to hammer out some answers that the larger group failed at.

I understand your discomfort with the secrecy of the "supercommittee," but remember that the entire Constitution was written in secret by participants working under a self-imposed "gag order." And that worked.

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So now it appears that even the super committee is going to fail to agree on anything. That's going to result in some automatic spending cuts to kick in, with no thought or concern as to the effect or what's going to be cut. I guess that way none of the 535 will have to take responsibility for whatever cuts occur.

I agree -- I also think the "supercommittee" will fail. But the automatic spending cuts will not take place because Congress has a little over a year to find a way to repeal that provision.

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But let me predict one other thing that I expect from the 535. Within a short time, they'll introduce legislation to overturn the automatic cuts that resulted from their failure. And we'lll be back where we started, borrowing 42 cents of every dollar qe spoend from the Chinese!.

Agreed. Work is already underway to that very end.

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In the meantime, our Congress has decided, with the "assistance" of the frozen pizza and potato grower lobbies, that tomato paste is a vegetable and french fries are healthy. So our school kids can continue to survive on pizza and french fries for school lunches. Does it take a degree in home economics to know that this legislation is simply ridiculous...and unhealthy!

Sheesh -- ain't it a mess?

Yarnspinner

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Bush quit drinking many, many years ago. Obama still drinks and smokes. In his book Obama admits he was addicted to drugs. It stands to reason that if you call Bush a drunk when he quit years ago, then Obama is a drug addict too.

The issue was staying with a "drug addicted husband." I was just pointing out that Bush was an alcohol and Laura stayed with him. So why are you making an issue of Michelle staying with Obama?

Guest 11-17-2011 04:12 PM

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I see everyone has rested up and are back at it again.
After letting it rest last evening I re-read the whole thread and what is very apparent is that even though this right leaning forum (of which I am one) has very set in stone opinions, It has been the left sounding or leaning posters that just can't help but throw flames, call names and threaten people.
To me this just poisons the koolaide, which ever kind you drink, and makes it impossible to discuss anything.
It is a shame that when someone can't make a point the next step is hate and vitriol.
How about expanding on your point with out ending the sentence with so sort of derogatory statement or name calling. You don't know but it may give someone something to think about! And may even give you something to think about.
And before I am attacked for painting with a broad brush, it comes from both side but usually as a response to an attack not a first volley.

I try to remain rational, but at times it is difficult because posting anything here is much like running at a windmill. I do accept that NOTHING anyone says that is not towing the conservative rep line will be laughed at, degraded, minimized etc. You guys think liberal is a dirty word. Much of the posting here is clearly done by folks who think they are just so cleaver with their wordplay and that they want the kudos of their peers. Fortunately for me, I do not want or expect any such response to anything I say. I am a little too secure for that kind of thing. What does bother me is the snarkiness of some of the posters here, left or right. Some of these posts were WAY WAY out of line. Here is my big issue...why are you guys so vicious about anything not 100% conservative? Why are you so afraid of a speaker here who does not agree with you 100%? I keep getting called a liberal while I have said many times I support the death penalty, closing the boarder, pro military, etc. You just can't seem to handle anyone who takes things issue by issue. I have never voted a straight party line. How many of you can say that? Prove me wrong....please.


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