Before Obamacare you could pay for insurance for years then without provocation have it cancelled. People with pre-existing conditions could not get covered. If there is an increase in cost, those two things make the increase acceptable.

"as of 2007, a Harvard study shows that at least 60% of bankruptcies are related to medical bills."

You could possibly be one of this group in the future, I guess you would be okay with that.

Wow, you found one page of Obamacare that might help you. So the other two thousand pages of cr@p must be good also, right?
Wow, you are an easy one to satisfy. Must be why Hellary committing all those felonies doesn't faze you whatsoever.

Minorities didn't have insurance before, they do now, that's all that changed. Because of that, an avalanche of effects are occurring. One being costs are going up. Minorities are generally less healthy and therefore use more services. You not only have millions more being added, they're unhealthier and need more care. That costs more, the cost is shared, and everyone pays more.

Millions of people added that may be unhealthier and need care. And it may cause us to pay more for our fellow citizens to have an improved life. That is what America is all about. We are a giving nation.

No, not true. It is NOT what America is all about. That may be what the Soviet Union was all about though. We did not need a monster of a program to add a few people to mediciad. We did not need all those pages to provide for those that had pre-existing ailments. It was all a lie to get us on a path toward socialism via socialized health care. That is NOT the American way But, SOME are too blind to see it. Sorry, but you can keep your socialism. I am an AMerican, not a European.

And that is fine. But.....

Obama should have said it in 2008-09. "We are going to bring 40 million uninsured into the system, most of whom cannot pay, so the rest of you are going to pay for them" Not the "average family will save $2500/yr. garbage that only idiots and ideologues believed

I mostly agree, except when it comes to taking care of the citizens health of the greatest nation on the planet.

As can be seen here (albeit, in much higher numbers than average across the nation), all too many have the attitude of .... "I got mine, screw you." :(

I don't believe it is a coincidence that the attitude is precipitated by the fact, that most of those needing help are minorities.


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CNM

Insurance Exchanges which were created and subsidized by Obama Care are now closing every month since the subsidies have ended .

The entire fairy tale is not working out because it was put together by idiots such as that professor from Dartmouth and Dr. Israel Emanuel who is Mayor Rham Emanuel`s very arrogant brother .

Dr. Emanuel has publicly stated that many times no one should live past the age of 75 and therefore medical services for those age 75 and above should be rationed .

You're talking about Zeke Emanuel. Fact check follows.

‘Deadly Doctor’?

Women want socialism, everything "taken care of"...men want freedom to pave their own way. We both want two DIFFERENT things.

This topic deserves intelligent dialog and it's no surprise when is turns into a bunch of dribble filled with opinion and very little fact. We should be discussing why medical care is so expensive, not who's paying for it. Where's the money. A middle class family should be able to pay for routine medical care without insurance as we used to. What happened? I believe for profit medical care happened. Shareholders, attorneys, CEOs, etc profiting from others illness. I believe in free enterprise but this system we have created is in a profit feeding frenzy. (IMO)

Those millions added to the number of now having insurance are padded figures. Part of that figure is the wealthy that did NOT need or want insurance. Part of it was just more Medicaid recipients that could have been added without a couple thousand page mandate. And a lot of those added had insurance before Obamacare and lost it and then had to apply for new insurance thru that stupid website that was ridiculous. And then there are the kids in their 20's that did not want insurance that now have to have it, and are not eligible for their parent's coverage. Now, the ones that really needed insurance probably still don't have it. How many millions still don't have insurance after all that. And, on top of it all the price of insurance has gone up, even as Obie promised it would go down. You can NOT necessarily keep your doctor, as promised. And there are less services provided by the insurance that were covered before ObamaCare.

Obamacare was not thought out, unless you consider that the left is shooting for failure so they can move us into a single payer or universal health care system. HELLO socialism, goodbye America.

No one cares about the COST of health care when their donors would be affected.

No one addressed the high cost of malpractice insurance. Do we really need to prove how high it is per year when it has been beat to death? If you are a doctor and have to pay a hundred grand or more per year, would you not pass it on to the patient?
Overhead. Doctors have to hire a whole staff and pay competitive wages and benefits.
Office space and utilities
Lab service costs for equipment and overhead.

Health care is costly, because anyone can sue anyone for any amount of money. Texas reduced costs by instituting Tort Reform. Doctors streamed into Texas after that.

Competition was not addressed in Obamacare either. Very important but not even considered. We can buy car insurance on line and across states. They compete with each other for our money. Do the same with health insurance.

Just two ideas that the left could have worked on and would have had the GOP involved. Nope, they do NOT want to lower the cost. They (the left) want socialized medicine, period.

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...t-page-8/?_r=0


That doesn't even take into account that many malpractice suits are legitimate and the only recourse for those victims of incompetent doctors/hospital employees...is to sue.

I'm betting that a whole bunch of folks screaming about tort reform, would quickly change their minds....should they or a loved one be the victim of medical incompetency.



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CNM

How do you know it was one page? Typical of people who just spout out anything without documentation. Sounds like your leader, trump.