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Guest 01-28-2016 02:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178725)
Concerning his event with the military, that is all for show. One of the heads of a Wounded Warriors group said he has done nothing for the group in the past. When he saw Trump and identified who he was and ask for help, Trump told him to send him a letter, and walked away. This was several years ago. Now, he is their best friend. There isn't a person running for president including Hillary that is more morally corrupt than Trump.

i don't see how this person "one of the heads of a group" would know whether or not Donald Trump has donated to the organization through other avenues than his particular group....if i were a billionaire and someone identified himself and asked for help with any cause, i would want an official request to know where my money was going. i think this is a faulty assumption.[/QUOTE]

Faulty assumption! Are you listening to the news today? What notable veterans group is Trump requesting contributions for in his fund raising tonight?

Official request! Someone asks you to donate to Wounded Warriors, and you want to know who this person is? I guess this person should have been in a wheelchair with no legs. Losing his legs could have come in a car accident. So, he still should send a formal request for a contribution. Trump reads all the mail sent to him. Sure, he does. Trump dismissed him.

Guest 01-28-2016 04:35 PM

i do believe that any person should be wary of an unknown entity asking for money for a popular cause...did he expect him to whip out his wallet and give him the cash in his hand? check out the past donations of trump both through his foundation and himself personally. the "progressive" veterans group who is refusing to accept Trump's money should think more about the veterans they serve than making a political statement.

Guest 01-28-2016 05:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178780)
i do believe that any person should be wary of an unknown entity asking for money for a popular cause...did he expect him to whip out his wallet and give him the cash in his hand? check out the past donations of trump both through his foundation and himself personally. the "progressive" veterans group who is refusing to accept Trump's money should think more about the veterans they serve than making a political statement.

No, he expected Trump to talk to him for a little while. Instead, Trump dismissed him like so many pounds of crap. Wounded Warriors is a progressive veterans group! You showed your true colors there. Please name some progressive veterans group.

By the way, Trump held a event similar to the one tonight for a veterans group with a fancy name. That group was made up of one person, the head of the group. That veterans group, party of one, got its charitable status taken away for him. Trump should be cautious, who he donates his money too, but Wounded Warriors. Come on man!

Guest 01-28-2016 06:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178625)
Trump is the one that is always calling news stations. He is using them to get his agenda, whatever that is, across. He brags about being self funded, but spends next to nothing due to the press. If they ask him a question that he doesn't like, he doesn't answer them, or worse treats them like a sub human being.

Concerning women, he would make a perfect Muslim. Cover their entire face, and body, so you don't have to look at them. The women would know their place and say next to nothing.

Concerning his event with the military, that is all for show. One of the heads of a Wounded Warriors group said he has done nothing for the group in the past. When he saw Trump and identified who he was and ask for help, Trump told him to send him a letter, and walked away. This was several years ago. Now, he is their best friend. There isn't a person running for president including Hillary that is more morally corrupt than Trump.

1. Concerning self funding by having press coverage> A very intelligent campaign strategy.

2.Concerning women>The women, and there are many, that work for him have nothing but great things to say about him.

3. Concerning Wounded Warriors>I am a huge advocate for helping our veterans. Wounded Warriors only gives 48-52% of money raised to the Vets. The CEO Steve Nardizzi has a $375,000 salary. Trump will be sure the vast majority of what he raises will go to the Vets, not supplementing high administrative costs. We have better ways to get way more than 50% of donations to any charitable organization.

4. Morally corrupt>Supporting your womanizing husband for purely political reasons / Lies about landing in Bosnia under sniper fire and calls it a mistake / Uses her personal email for classified material. Hillary is certainly morally corrupt and quite likely criminally corrupt.

Guest 01-28-2016 08:46 PM

The Republican clown car is driving toward a cliff without a driver. Trump has bailed out! Now, the remaining clowns are without cohesive leadership and are headed for the edge of a cliff!

Trump IS going Third Party.

Hillary IS going to win!!!!

Republicans lose the Preidency AGAIN! :loco:

Guest 01-28-2016 08:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178816)
1. Concerning self funding by having press coverage> A very intelligent campaign strategy.

2.Concerning women>The women, and there are many, that work for him have nothing but great things to say about him.

3. Concerning Wounded Warriors>I am a huge advocate for helping our veterans. Wounded Warriors only gives 48-52% of money raised to the Vets. The CEO Steve Nardizzi has a $375,000 salary. Trump will be sure the vast majority of what he raises will go to the Vets, not supplementing high administrative costs. We have better ways to get way more than 50% of donations to any charitable organization.

4. Morally corrupt>Supporting your womanizing husband for purely political reasons / Lies about landing in Bosnia under sniper fire and calls it a mistake / Uses her personal email for classified material. Hillary is certainly morally corrupt and quite likely criminally corrupt.

1. I agree with you. Getting as much free press as you can makes sense. However, don't go out there, and say you are self funding. You are going on the cheap by always calling news stations for your campaign ads.

2. We will see how many women do vote for him.

3. The money for the meeting is going into the Trump foundation. He draws a salary our of the foundation. Veterans groups are not going to accept his money. They know that this is just a political stunt to justify not going to the debate. Veterans Group Refuses To Take Money From Trump's 'Political Stunt' - Carbonated.TV

4. If you are going to wait for me to say something good about Hillary, you are going to wait a long time.

Guest 01-28-2016 10:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178852)
The Republican clown car is driving toward a cliff without a driver. Trump has bailed out! Now, the remaining clowns are without cohesive leadership and are headed for the edge of a cliff!

Trump IS going Third Party.

Hillary IS going to win!!!!

Republicans lose the Preidency AGAIN! :loco:

you have got to lay off mixing the X-X-X kool aide with your meds!

Guest 01-29-2016 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1178802]No, he expected Trump to talk to him for a little while. Instead, Trump dismissed him like so many pounds of crap. Wounded Warriors is a progressive veterans group! You showed your true colors there. Please name some progressive veterans group.

i did not say wounded warriors is a progressive group...i was speaking of IAVA, the group who is saying they will not accept....Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. they are a liberal group.

Guest 01-29-2016 06:02 AM

Dear Guest:

I have more questions than answers concerning this election cycle .
I believe Trump runs his campaign the same manner he ran Celebrity Apprentice and those fans are his followers.

Trump is a good thing in the world business he immerses himself but a horrible choice as president. He is going to operate in the same manner as Obama and Obama has done a good job of wrecking our Constitution, form of government and separation of powers. Can one imagine what goes on behind the scenes of the Trump campaign after viewing what is public?

I view each candidate as a would be pursuer (courting). I ask myself what happens if the pursuer wins your heart (vote)? Would the pursuer be faithful kind beneficial or would the pursuer beat his/her spouse become unfaithful, etc?

You may have seen the report on Trump digging up photos Megan Kelly took back in 2002 for GQ. She is indeed a looker and that sways people's minds. Kelly in my view was wrong to have started up with Trump. Her first question to him explained her ambitions and her bias toward him. She is a journalist anxious to reach the top of the heap and you can't reach the top man or woman by being nice in today's world

I began to watch Trump on CNN last night but was put off because 1) CNN capitalized it all by continually showing small panels of Hillary, Bill Bernie and Trump. I was also put off by Trump self-aggrandizing remarks about his love or vets, by his show of influence in th top 1% of the country and mostly playing victim as to the Fox dispute. the whole spectacle looked so canned and hollow. By the way Santorium and Huckabee were reported to have attended Trump's event??

I am sickened by this campaign. This nation has lost its moral compass and has immersed itself into banality. And, this nation is paying the price and if they do not get a gripe we will continue our slide down to oblivion

My choice has narrowed to Rubio. Cruz is canadian no matter what the definition of natural born, in the same manner Obama is muslim no matter what the record claims. I view Cruz with the same distrust I do for Clinton

Personal Best Regard

Guest 01-29-2016 06:22 AM

I think the debate went well last night, without Trump. I don't think his absence helped him any, but I doubt it really did much damage other than in Iowa.

To me, it was obvious that Rubio showed very well and if anyone was considered the winner, it would be him. Although, the rest of the candidates looked pretty polished and other than the beating that Cruz received, all did pretty well.

I am still leaning toward Rubio, even with his lack of experience. Even if that choice does not turn out to be the optimum selection of the group, he is still predicted to most easily beat Hillary. That is IF the FBI doesn't indict her first.

With all the available evidence, it makes one wonder why they haven't indicted Hillary yet. Perhaps they are searching for a way of vindicating her instead of prosecuting her? Why else would it take so long with so much damning evidence publicized?

Guest 01-29-2016 08:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178905)
I think the debate went well last night, without Trump. I don't think his absence helped him any, but I doubt it really did much damage other than in Iowa.

To me, it was obvious that Rubio showed very well and if anyone was considered the winner, it would be him. Although, the rest of the candidates looked pretty polished and other than the beating that Cruz received, all did pretty well.

I am still leaning toward Rubio, even with his lack of experience. Even if that choice does not turn out to be the optimum selection of the group, he is still predicted to most easily beat Hillary. That is IF the FBI doesn't indict her first.

With all the available evidence, it makes one wonder why they haven't indicted Hillary yet. Perhaps they are searching for a way of vindicating her instead of prosecuting her? Why else would it take so long with so much damning evidence publicized?

The highlighted issue above has proven to be not a problem in the last two presidential elections or in the current democratic candidates!!

Any of the current republican candidates...ANY ONE....is better qualified and experienced than the incumbent or democratic choices for 2016.

Guest 01-29-2016 09:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178928)
The highlighted issue above has proven to be not a problem in the last two presidential elections or in the current democratic candidates!!

Any of the current republican candidates...ANY ONE....is better qualified and experienced than the incumbent or democratic choices for 2016.

:agree:

Guest 01-29-2016 09:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178928)
The highlighted issue above has proven to be not a problem in the last two presidential elections or in the current democratic candidates!!

Any of the current republican candidates...ANY ONE....is better qualified and experienced than the incumbent or democratic choices for 2016.

For his second election Obama had U.S. Senate and four years Presidential experience. Hillary was a First Lady, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of State. Sanders was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives and is a U.S. senator. Your experience argument shows a little bias, just sayin'.

Guest 01-29-2016 09:31 AM

i watched the debate and recorded the Trump event....feel good that everyone on that panel would make a good leader. would like to see Rubio as VP and still like Trump for pres. agree with previous poster that the coverage of the Trump event was really an opportunity for CNN to get their talking heads commenting with the event in the background. Trump did have time to say that fox had apologized and talked a bit about china and the iran deal while announcing all the big donations for the vets. they did not show the speeches of Santorum or Huckabee but had them on later as more talking heads. i like both of them, also. our conundrum is "who do we pick" among some great choices.

Guest 01-29-2016 09:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1178950)
For his second election Obama had U.S. Senate and four years Presidential experience. Hillary was a First Lady, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of State. Sanders was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives and is a U.S. senator. Your experience argument shows a little bias, just sayin'.

Well chi, interesting that you bring up that point. Even though you are not responding to my comment, I would like to submit my two cents regarding Hillary's so-called experience.

Hillary was first lady. Does that mean that a wife of an astronaut is experienced enough to be a member of our next space launch?

Hillary was a senator. Yes, she produced a total of THREE(3) bills that contributed absolutely nothing. So much for her senate experience.

She was SecState. Exactly what did she accomplish? The world is in worst of a state than before her, so even though I am not accusing her of being the reason, what did she do to make it less so?

Yes, Sanders has experience. But, the commie is not a viable candidate either. He stands absolutely no chance of getting elected, and even the Dems know that. That's why Bloomie is warming up in the pit....in case Killary doesn't make it to the big game.

Obama was a loser and had no job experience, other than a couple of non-productive years in the senate.


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