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Guest 08-22-2016 12:31 PM

I will borrow that mantra that Trump uses on Clinton a lot...you ...."where there is smoke there must be fire"...regarding emails and her health and all other conspiracy theories (much like the birther thing, or Cruz's father in the JFK thing)...

But with Trumps campaign manager being closely associated, and by closely I mean CLOSELY with managing campaigns in Ukraine, having financial interest in the millions there, and Trumps proposals to dismantle NATO which would make Putin happier than any man could be, and his very friendly remarks about Russia and Putin, who have been anything but friendly to USA...

Would that not make Trumps tax returns interesting ?

Imagine if those foreign debts are in Russia ?

..wink..wink...we KNOW he strongly solicited money from there.

Guest 08-22-2016 12:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276250)
Do you realize your responding to a NY Times quote:1rotfl:

The New York Times Banking and Finance Beat Writers used to call me once in a while for a quote .

How about you . What recognized authority sought you out for input ?

Guest 08-22-2016 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276307)
The New York Times Banking and Finance Beat Writers used to call me once in a while for a quote .

How about you . What recognized authority sought you out for input ?

Oh by the way the Times were not the only publication to seek input from me . Also The Wall Street Journal , The American Banker and Money Magazine to list a few .

So again who sought out your financial insights ?

Guest 08-22-2016 12:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276308)
Oh by the way the Times were not the only publication to seek input from me . Also The Wall Street Journal , The American Banker and Money Magazine to list a few .

So again who sought out your financial insights ?

Hell, my wife doesn't listen to me !

Amazing with all the misinformation you have presented and the questions you run from, I can see why it is USED TO BE.

Me, I am just a dumb old guy who reads both sides of every question, and learns at the feet of people like you who are so intelligent..

But you are letting me down by avoiding and misinforming.

Did you ever find yourself asked for comment by Trumps paper...the National Enquirer ?

Guest 08-22-2016 12:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276278)
Ok....first I am not blind (have cataracts however) and according to you, I AM ignorant (although you seem to apply that to all users here).

I got confused and must apologize. I thought this thread was about Trump debts, and here you go with Clinton.

As I have said many times before, I will never support Clinton, vote for Clinton in anyway. Do I need to repeat that ?

My amazement is the defense of Trump, a validated immoral man, a man who is actually worse than a compulsive liar; a number of psychiatric articles written in the last months had called him much worse, a serial cheater on wives, which makes him sort of sleazy in my book, a man who refuses to divulge information to the voters like his taxes and expect us to take his word (see comment on his psychological problems with lying), a man who still must answer for his con job called Trump U, a man who reduces any disagreement with him to be personal and thus opens you for PERSONAL immature attacks, who obviously prefers the National Enquirer (who he constantly touts) as his go to newspaper, whose interests are pretty much about HIM, not the country, who espouses policies that would throw our economic system into chaos (sorry, I DO realize how smart you are but I do read a bit), whose foreign policy aspirations would leave our country on an island at a time in history where they is the worst place to be.

I could go on and on about him.

BUT, you now have switched gears to Clinton and despite what you think, I have nothing good to say, except maybe that she has at least devoted her life to public service, much unlike Trump whose serves himself only.

I will vote for neither and as far as what I will tell my grandchildren about the Clintons, I will tell them the truth, some good and some bad. I will need to censor some of it a bit, unlike censoring most of Trump.

I will also tell them that the Clintons were involved in an election in 2016 which is a total embarassment for the country. That she was one of 2 morally corrupt people running for office.

Since you are enamored with Trump but always want to talk about Clinton, I will bid you adieu unless you continue your condescending talking down, because like Trump always said....a better counter puncher, but I cannot publicy ridicule you like he does.

And are you not amazed as well that the shriek called Clinton is still in the race?

Her bad deeds amke the worst of anybody else look saintly.

Trump did not betray his country...or lie to congress....or caused lives of Americans to be lost and many more in jeopardy.

A clinton good day would be much worse than Trump or anybody elses worst day(s).

Guest 08-22-2016 12:42 PM

By the way, with your high rating in the financial world, you must know Warren Buffett...bet you are angry at him for calling out Trump in his taxes.

Guest 08-22-2016 12:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276290)
On point number 4, which is the only one that concerns me, you are actually incorrect....

"As president, Trump would not be required to sell any of his investments or businesses. The U.S. Financial Conflict of Interest Statute prohibits unelected officials of the executive branch from holding stakes in assets that would conflict with their ability to properly do their jobs.

For example, former Goldman Sachs CEO Hank Paulson sold off his company stock before he became Treasury Secretary in 2006.
Executive branch officials also are prohibited from earning income from their businesses and must abide by strict impartiality rules.
But Congress decided not to apply those restrictions to the president or vice president. They have to disclose their holdings, but they don't have to disown them.

So Donald Trump could be president without selling his businesses."


Trump's 500 businesses would pose 'unprecedented ethical dilemma' - Mar. 16, 2016

This is quite an interesting article actually and if you really want to know what is happening worth a read.

I might tell you that there are in fact "rumors" from unnamed source at NBC, that Trump has already pitched the idea of a Celebrity Apprentice in the White House. Now he wont because NBC is disgusted with the man, but it certainly tells you what is important to this person.

"when Trump first considered running for president, back in 2011, he spoke to NBCUniversal chief executive Steve Burke about continuing The Apprentice… from within the Oval Office.

[A] person with knowledge of the situation noted that the two men had a conversation in which they broached a compromise, albeit one that seems more like a Trumpian fever dream than a network-TV reality. It outlined, presumably fantastically, that Trump should run for president; and on the off chance that he won, he would continue to star in The Apprentice from within the White House. (Via)"

Donald Trump Thought He Could Star In ‘The Apprentice’ As President

Sorry Sir but you are incorrect . Presidents can and do place their financial interests into a " Blind Trust " which means that they give up control and any knowledge of any changes to their investments
during their time in office . Their interests are managed by a Fiduciary known as an Independent Trustee .
However prior to entering office they can divest themselves of some or all of their investment holdings.
And they can undertake a combination of the two .

Guest 08-22-2016 12:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276312)
And are you not amazed as well that the shriek called Clinton is still in the race?

Her bad deeds amke the worst of anybody else look saintly.

Trump did not betray his country...or lie to congress....or caused lives of Americans to be lost and many more in jeopardy.

A clinton good day would be much worse than Trump or anybody elses worst day(s).

Can you never stay on subject. Are you trying to have me defend Clinton, which I can't, except to say ALL your charges are unproven, simply strong charges.

It appears you have grown tired of the thread subject, and want to attack instead of actually discuss.

You can defend Trump as much as you like. He is still a secretive, vile human being, and I can validate as you know...all.

You, along with others who either ARE uninformed or WANT to STAY uninformed, choose to turn anyone who has a real, valid fear of Donald Trump into a Clinton supporter. Very shallow

Guest 08-22-2016 12:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276316)
Sorry Sir but you are incorrect . Presidents can and do place their financial interests into a " Blind Trust " which means that they give up control and any knowledge of any changes to their investments
during their time in office . Their interests are managed by a Fiduciary known as an Independent Trustee .
However prior to entering office they can divest themselves of some or all of their investment holdings.
And they can undertake a combination of the two .

CAN AND DO IS CORRECT.

You said they were required...they are not. Most do. Trump will not is my opinion

Guest 08-22-2016 12:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276321)
CAN AND DO IS CORRECT.

You said they were required...they are not. Most do. Trump will not is my opinion

Thank you for the inside information . You might want to contact CNN or the NY Times with your insights .

:bigbow:

Guest 08-22-2016 01:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276326)
Thank you for the inside information . You might want to contact CNN or the NY Times with your insights .

:bigbow:

"
in the context of conflict of interest regulation and avoidance. Initially, it should be noted
that there is no federal statute which expressly requires that particular federal officials
place assets into a “blind trust” upon entering public service with the Federal"

The Use of Blind Trusts by Federal Officials

It would facilitate any discussions if you actually read

Guest 08-22-2016 01:18 PM

So what is your far Leftist point ? Do you expect that the Clinton Foundation which hands out a mere 10% of it`s intake will shut down and go away when Her Highness Hillary The Crooked Liar takes up her throne ?

Guest 08-22-2016 01:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276313)
By the way, with your high rating in the financial world, you must know Warren Buffett...bet you are angry at him for calling out Trump in his taxes.

Actually when i was working Mr. Buffet purchased over 10% of the company I worked for .

Once each year in late January he would come to our Headquarters for an update on the our financial performance for the past year and a presentation of our Business Plan for the new year .

Once the presentations were completed each of the presenters was invited to sit with him for a group lunch . I was one of the presenters for several years .

Also one of my best friends is now the Chairman of a company which is 100% owned by Mr. Buffet .
And you sir ?

Guest 08-22-2016 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276180)
"Chewing" and wondering if you have any problems with the President of the United States being personally deep in debt to foreign banks ?

I will try to get educated but at least make us feel better and tell us that our President being deep in debt to a foreign country makes no difference whatsoever.

I must be missing something. The President is personally deep in debt to foreign banks? Personally? Another point is who sets the debt limit?

Guest 08-22-2016 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1276346)
Actually when i was working Mr. Buffet purchased over 10% of the company I worked for .

Once each year in late January he would come to our Headquarters for an update on the our financial performance for the past year and a presentation of our Business Plan for the new year .

Once the presentations were completed each of the presenters was invited to sit with him for a group lunch . I was one of the presenters for several years .

Also one of my best friends is now the Chairman of a company which is 100% owned by Mr. Buffet .
And you sir ?

Listen, I haven't done "****ing contests" since maybe 8th grade.

You will need to find another to compare whatever's.


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