Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, Political talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/)
-   -   Trumps debt ? (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/trumps-debt-206774/)

Guest 08-23-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1276975)
Has he lied to Congress?

She did

Who committed Perjury?

Who may be facing RICCO charges?

who made over 100 million dollars after leaving the WH broke?

Who risked top secrets in private servers.

Who dropped the ball in Bengazi?

His lies are nothing in comparison.

Are we better off now in the last 8 years, do we want another 4 of the same.

Trumps debt is nothing a non issue moreover, it's corporate not personal

A Trump poster listing charges, all with some merit, none proven at all in a thread about Trumps debt.

Amazing the inability to concentrate on here by some.

Oh, and Trumps debt to Russia and China, and his financial interests there...well, let's just say, it IS an issue, which he could take a gigantic step toward by releasing his taxes and telling the truth.

Guest 08-23-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1276982)
A Trump poster listing charges, all with some merit, none proven at all in a thread about Trumps debt.

Amazing the inability to concentrate on here by some.

Oh, and Trumps debt to Russia and China, and his financial interests there...well, let's just say, it IS an issue, which he could take a gigantic step toward by releasing his taxes and telling the truth.

Let's all agree that no matter what issue anybody comes up with or invents or lies about involving Trump, that none can be anymore serious than all the illegal activity and crimes commited by Clinton.

And if you supportes of Clinton have no problem with her then you have no :censored: isues with Trump.....NONE by comparison.

Put that in your :censored: pipe and smoke it!

Guest 08-23-2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277000)
Let's all agree that no matter what issue anybody comes up with or invents or lies about involving Trump, that none can be anymore serious than all the illegal activity and crimes commited by Clinton.

And if you supportes of Clinton have no problem with her then you have no :censored: isues with Trump.....NONE by comparison.

Put that in your :censored: pipe and smoke it!

First, it is sort of immature and ill informed to say "lets all agree". A bit presumptuous in my opinion since there are no charges or crime that I am aware of against Clinton.

I hate when you ill informed, short tempered folks come on here and make me defend Clinton, someone I do not trust nor could ever vote for.

YET.....your shortsighted, shallow thinking makes you think that political slander is actually the basis for a crime. GROW UP.

Secondly, if we are comparing actual incidents with officials where someone is found guilty by more than political assertions, Trump wins hands down.

You folks have left planet earth are on a planet created by the right wing conspiracy theorists employed by the Trump campaign.

Actually it is quite funny to see a 70 year old man who is very overweight talking about the health of a woman is younger and has been much more active than he in recent years.

Guest 08-23-2016 03:12 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1276910)
Interesting how you folks know so much about Trumps money.

He lied SUBSTANTIALLY on his original filed documents, and will not allow the voters to see his tax return, even those not being audited.

I put them both in the same category....I can't defend or support Clinton based on what I don't know, and Trump, WHO BY THE WAY HAS MANY MORE SECRETS simply based on Clinton leading a very public life.

Trump has already lied numerous times on his finances...we now know he sort of misstated his number of bankruptcies for one, and lied on his initial filings.

So, I guess it is pick your poison. We know more about Clinton, but anyone...ANYONE, since this is about Trump...ANYONE who says they know anything at all about Trumps finances lis just blowing smoke.

Please be specific on how he "lied substantially." I know you will not answer because YOU are the liar, just like cnm and those creepy clinton supporters.

Guest 08-23-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1276912)
Funny, we KNOW he will be going to court based on accusations of fraud concerning Trump U, and can only surmise about the states that we're going to prosecute until something occurred..in Florida a substantial "contribution" to the attorney general.

We KNOW about all the fines he has paid base in his PERSONAL actions regarding race in his businesses.

We KNOW he has told so many lies on this campaign they have seperate websites to keep up. The one that made me laugh was how he boasted about his hotels supplying child care for employees. Of course, the correction was it was ONLY for guests.

We know a lot, but you are correct....Trump has more secrets than Clinton for sure.

Once again nothing specific, just a large lie by YOU. What racial personal action did he commit that resulted in a fine? Show it to me or get your frigging shine box.

Guest 08-23-2016 03:22 PM

People here ranting bad things about trump obviously never owned even a small business, let alone many many large corporations. Many clinton supporters here are retired teachers, with very short haircuts,(not that there is anything wrong with that) that never signed a paycheck in their lives.

If you had many corporations worth billions that did not have a lot of litigation that would be suspicious. THE TRUMP corporations are the plaintiffs in the majority of its litigation.

Guest 08-23-2016 03:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277011)
Once again nothing specific, just a large lie by YOU. What racial personal action did he commit that resulted in a fine? Show it to me or get your frigging shine box.

I am gong to ask you very nicely to refrain from the name calling. I have yet to lie to you and in fact if you read the previous posts, you are precariously close to constant over statements.

"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3]

The topics of the legal cases include contract disputes, defamation claims, and allegations of sexual harassment and rape.[1][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Trump's companies have been involved in more than 100 tax disputes, and on "at least three dozen" occasions the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance has obtained tax liens against Trump properties for nonpayment of taxes.[1] On a number of occasions, Trump has threatened legal action but did not ultimately follow through.[7]


Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Trump initially came to public attention in 1973 when he was accused by the Justice Department of violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings.[13] The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions to blacks and made false "no vacancy" statements to blacks for apartments they managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.[14]"



Not suggesting anything by any of this, but to make some claim about his opponent while having such a background which includes dealing with criminal elements, is simply lunacy.

It is fine to have passion for someone you support but at least keep it in the realm of something reasonable,

The constant harrangues by Trump and his stooges on Clintons health are simply elementary school silliness which is an attribute that can be laid inside much of his campaign.

Fact is I offer this to you as a typical example of this low life's approach to everything....just lie and cheat and hope nobody notices....

Since Clinton had her health records made public, Trump was asked to do the same....This is how Newsweek viewed it...

"It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), sometimes it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name, freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus. (Other times it takes you to a generic medical website. No, I can't explain that either.)


Donald Trump Tests Positive for Everything, According to His Own Doctor

I bring up the health issue because you and others are simply accepting what this man says. Please do some research....this is not a man to be in our Oval Office.

And the subject of the thread....his debts.

"He’s so rich. He’s a successful businessman. He can’t be bought.

He can be indebted to foreign investors, however.

The Washington Examiner is reporting that Trump owes money – a lot of money – to some sources that aren’t exactly in line with his campaign rhetoric."

"Trump’s federal financial disclosure form that he’d released earlier in the campaign fell slightly under half of that amount, by claiming a debt of $315 million. That would be the usual Trump, however, as he lies his way through the campaign, creating an illusion of who he is and his success, rather than giving the real story.

How Much Money Does Donald Trump Owe China? | RedState



I for one do not want my President in debt to Russia and/or China in the millions and 'owing" them anything.

Guest 08-23-2016 03:55 PM

The innuendos on here about Clinton literally pale when you read the innuendos on Trump and his past associations...not speaking of the many women with whom he cheated on his wife with, but.....and this IS an innuendo....

"Journalists David Cay Johnston and Wayne Barrett, the latter of whom wrote an unauthorized 1992 Trump biography, have claimed that Trump and his companies did business with New York and Philadelphia families linked to the Italian-American Mafia.[126][127] A reporter for the Washington Post writes, "he was never accused of illegality, and observers of the time say that working with the mob-related figures and politicos came with the territory."[128]

Trump helped a financier for the Scarfo family get a casino license, and constructed a casino using firms controlled by Nicodemo Scarfo.[129] Trump also bought real estate from Philadelphia crime family member Salvatore Testa, and bought concrete from companies associated with the Genovese crime family and the Gambino crime family.[126][127][128] Trump Plaza paid a $450,000 fine leveled by the Casino Gaming Commission for giving $1.6 million in rare automobiles to Robert LiButti, the acquaintance of John Gotti already mentioned.[33]

Starting in 2003, the Trump Organization worked with Felix Sater, who had a 1998 racketeering conviction for a $40 million Mafia-linked stock fraud scheme, and who had then become an informant against the mafia.[130] Trump's attorney has said that Sater worked with Trump scouting real estate opportunities, but was never formally employed.[131]"



Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guest 08-23-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277009)
First, it is sort of immature and ill informed to say "lets all agree". A bit presumptuous in my opinion since there are no charges or crime that I am aware of against Clinton.

I hate when you ill informed, short tempered folks come on here and make me defend Clinton, someone I do not trust nor could ever vote for.

YET.....your shortsighted, shallow thinking makes you think that political slander is actually the basis for a crime. GROW UP.

Secondly, if we are comparing actual incidents with officials where someone is found guilty by more than political assertions, Trump wins hands down.

You folks have left planet earth are on a planet created by the right wing conspiracy theorists employed by the Trump campaign.

Actually it is quite funny to see a 70 year old man who is very overweight talking about the health of a woman is younger and has been much more active than he in recent years.

From the all knowing, all seeing, blow my horn, even though I don't know jack $hit, but cover it up by insulting others that do not share the same opinion.

Your continual qualifiers of what you think you know only demonstarte insecurity. Speak from knowledge and see where the chips lie.

And one who thinks they are qualified to judge immaturety or wisdom and then follow up with the school yard BS name calling.

My better judgement stops me from saying what I really think of your BS post.

Too bad there is not at least a bite me emoticon....I would use it now!

And this is my positive reaction to the BS, non value adding waste of time post presented.

Guest 08-23-2016 05:21 PM

just wondering
 
where is Trump's tax return!

Guest 08-23-2016 05:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277038)
From the all knowing, all seeing, blow my horn, even though I don't know jack $hit, but cover it up by insulting others that do not share the same opinion.

Your continual qualifiers of what you think you know only demonstarte insecurity. Speak from knowledge and see where the chips lie.

And one who thinks they are qualified to judge immaturety or wisdom and then follow up with the school yard BS name calling.

My better judgement stops me from saying what I really think of your BS post.

Too bad there is not at least a bite me emoticon....I would use it now!

And this is my positive reaction to the BS, non value adding waste of time post presented.

1. You are typical of the reason I, and others do not post on here.

2. You are everything, and more, that people say of you.

Will take my leave

Enjoy your deluded and non reality world. As they told me..you ain't that smart but have an opinion of yourself that smacks of problems.

No sweat..won't correct you any longer and you can take your insults and spread them among others.

Guest 08-23-2016 05:31 PM

same place as Hilleries emails?

Guest 08-23-2016 05:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277024)
I am gong to ask you very nicely to refrain from the name calling.

If you think that was name calling you may need to leave the kitchen:1rotfl:



Quote:

"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3]

The topics of the legal cases include contract disputes, defamation claims, and allegations of sexual harassment and rape.[1][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Trump's companies have been involved in more than 100 tax disputes, and on "at least three dozen" occasions the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance has obtained tax liens against Trump properties for nonpayment of taxes.[1] On a number of occasions, Trump has threatened legal action but did not ultimately follow through.[7]
First you need to break that down over 40 years, less than 100 a year.

For a company that size it's not unusual, to someone that's not a business person it may look that way, but you fail to disclose how many of those cases were settled or won by his Org.

For example there were many trademark infringement lawsuits, I can tel you as trademark owner, you are required by Fed Law to police your trademark, by policing it means litigating. I had 14 lawsuits in one year, that was small company, (we won all of them)
Infringes have to be stopped or you risk losing the trademark


Quote:

Fact is I offer this to you as a typical example of this low life's approach to everything....just lie and cheat
Funny you said "refrain from the name calling." now you go and do it.


Quote:

He can be indebted to foreign investors, however.
no proof he was bought but Clintons foundation was.

Pay for play



Quote:

I for one do not want my President in debt to Russia and/or China in the millions and 'owing" them anything.
But you want to have someone that owes favors for the 2 billion dollars donated to the foundation. All over the news in the past 48 hours

you talking with forked tongue

Guest 08-23-2016 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1277030]did business with New York and Philadelphia families linked to the Italian-American Mafia.[126][127] A reporter for the Washington Post writes, "he was never accused of illegality, and observers of the time say that working with the mob-related figures and politicos came with the territory."[128]

...... bought concrete from companies associated with the Genovese crime family and the Gambino crime family.l

I guess you think at that time you could buy concrete from anyone else in NY.

Guess what there was no choice.

Welcome to NY years ago.

Guest 08-23-2016 06:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1277065)
1. You are typical of the reason I, and others do not post on here.

2. You are everything, and more, that people say of you.

Will take my leave

Enjoy your deluded and non reality world. As they told me..you ain't that smart but have an opinion of yourself that smacks of problems.

No sweat..won't correct you any longer and you can take your insults and spread them among others.

You are entitled to your opinion, even though they are inaccurate or incorrect. They are yours and you are entitled.

I am amused how you take offense at anothers description or opinion....especially accusing one of calling names and being offensive. Go back and read your first response.

I usually respond in kind. So what you take offense or exception should be very familar to you.

The commentary of what others you comment have said about me is really, REALLY amusing....given the anonymity of guest or even the regular TOTV screen name. Speculation; conjecture; BS!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.