OK here is some logic for you.

If the media blames anti-abortion protests for the murder of an abortion doctor.

Does that mean they should blame the anti-war movement for the murder of an american soldier?

Think about it...think real hard about it.

Keedy

Actually no.... in this case a known anti-abortion protester did in fact kill this doctor so a hypothetical really doesn't apply. Now if an anti-war protester killed a soldier or bombed a recruiting station then yes.

As a member of the anti-war movement I can tell you I have never done anything than peacefully protest. As is my right protected by the brave soldiers who fight to keep this country free. I am always proud to say that I have 2 nephews in the military. A 1st LT in the Army, and a Staff Sargent in the Marines...the Marine has served in Iraq 4 times and was wounded once. And just in case you would like to know they both support my protesting the Iraq war. To support the troops I donate travel size shampoo and lotion to Operation Shoebox and I donate all of my unneeded goods and furniture to their Thrift Store, in TV. I also donate Java for the Troops which is run by Starbucks. I live, in the summer, very close to Fort Carson, CO. The Starbucks here will be sending 600 lbs of coffee when the troop ship out.

I am anti-war but I definitely support the troops.

You didn't answer my question.

You said this:
Lets talk about the anti gay rhetoric that has led to attacks and deaths, in Tenn., at Unitarian Churchs.

You said this in this thread. Using your own logic... Anti war rhetoric can lead to death and attacks on soldiers.
There are crazies in every protest. Anti abortion...anti homosexuality...anti war. It only takes one of the crazies to act on his (her) emotions.

Look around when you go to one of your protests....you may recognize the next terrorist when his picture is on the television.
Keedy

I started this thread...at the time I did not know anything about the soldier that was killed. I learned about Dr. Hiller from my mother....she is the mother of two Marines....she had not heard of the death of the soldier either....trust me that would have been my topic if that was the case.

Our opinion on both is the same....they were both their jobs....neither were engaged in illegal activities, warranting their death....both murders are deplorable and senseless and extremely maddening that this world continues to kill it's own.

The point of the thread was simply that violence in the world for any reason what's so ever is not the answer to any problem or disagreemnt.

Dr. Hiller was the example that was on my mind at the time. It was sad to me...so are all of the other stories.

You are right...I don't know why I thought she started this thread. By the way...isn't the abortionist named Tiller with a "T"? I have been reading it here as Hiller and my friend has been correcting me. LOL

yes...it is indeed T not H....



Cologal....my good friend...I love your passion....whether we agree on a topic or not(and it happens occaionally)....I thank you for your passion!!!

Same with the rest of you!!

Arrested him for what?

Let's be realistic here. Luckily we live in a place where the state can't arrest you for what it thinks you might do. If it could, we'd all probably be behind bars at some time or another.

And if any law enforcement agency had arrested him as a potential criminal, the ACLU and others would be there on the jailhouse steps, and the person would out in a heartbeat, suing the agency for unlawful arrest (and would have a good case).

So, a nut went and killed a person who was not performing illegal acts. Almost everyone who is murdered was not performing illegal acts.

So, the same nut killed a person in a church, in front of many witnesses. Just goes to show the person is a nut.

In a land of 300,000,000 residents, if 99.9% of the population are "sane and balanced," that still leaves 300,000 borderline (or worse) cases running around out there. That's a lot of kooks out there!

Keedy--- The media was quick to blame people who spoke out against Tiller. Don't expect the same coverage of the military killing. The killer was a Muslim who hated our military. The media only trumpets what fits their agenda.

Thank-you for your response Sally Jo. It is like living in a world upside-down and 55% of the people are standing on their heads thinking this is normal.*sigh*

Keedy

The last one I went to was maybe 6 years ago at the start of the war when my nephew the Marine was on the boat heading for his 1st of 4 tours in Iraq. I saw religious leaders, your average people and a number of family members. You once told me not to use the word terrorist so lightly...now I say the same to you.

You are using a hypothetical..when you use the word CAN. I am using the word DID.

Not sure I understand your post. All I am saying is that you decried protests against abortions and thought that all the rhetoric caused the hatred that caused Tiller's death. My retort was that you can use that same logic to explain away the death of the soldier. I have seen the hate at those protests. Burning the American flag and pictures of President Bush incites the very hate that you describe at the anti-abortion rallies.
Like Steve said, it is a tiny percentage of the protesters that are nuts. Those nuts attend all the protest rallies...not just the anti-abortion rallies.

Keedy

If you mean the death of the soldier in Arkansas...he was killed by a home grown terrorist.

This thread is about the death of Dr. Tiller...not about the anti war movement, not about Bush and not about anything else you might try and use to change the subject.

Violence does not make anything right! Is the title of this thread. Is that your retort? Hmmmmm
You have been all over the place with your posts. Wasn't it you who mentioned the gays?:shrug:

Enough!