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Guest 05-09-2010 07:22 PM

Democracy Speaks
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 263765)
IF what JFK said about liberalism were still true today then I would still be a proud liberal but it is not even in the same ballpark today...NOT EVEN CLOSE !

I believed and voted for JFK because of his definition of liberalism.....I worked hard for Democratic candidates because of that.....

THAT is not what the Democratic party or liberalism is today and it is not even close at all !

In all our diatribes from both sides, we seem to forget sometimes that the voting public is the ultimate foundation of what this nation is about. Period. End of any argument. In 2008, the majority of Americans believed inwhat the Democrats were offering. That includes both houses of Congress- don't put all the blame on Obama. There's an irony that a only a conservative would say "It's bad because it's not the same old party." That's what conservatives want, by definition- the same old thing.

We will see what happens in 2010 & 2012. The extreme right is screaming loudest right now, but they represent only 18% of the actual electorate. It's the vote count that matters, and I think many people clearly see how obstructionist the Republicans in the Senate are being by threatening to filibuster everything. This will win them points with the radical right, but for most Americans it just shows partisanship. They have paralyzed the government and only the Tea movement thinks that's a good thing.
Every radical right candidate that defeats a more "moderate" Republican is handing a victory to the Democrats in districts that might ordinarily vote moderately conservative.

Of course, we could barter chickens over this-the way they did in the good old days, according to one of your rising stars (who just got trounced in the primaries!)

Guest 05-09-2010 07:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 263793)
In all our diatribes from both sides, we seem to forget sometimes that the voting public is the ultimate foundation of what this nation is about. Period. End of any argument. In 2008, the majority of Americans believed inwhat the Democrats were offering. That includes both houses of Congress- don't put all the blame on Obama. There's an irony that a only a conservative would say "It's bad because it's not the same old party." That's what conservatives want, by definition- the same old thing.

We will see what happens in 2010 & 2012. The extreme right is screaming loudest right now, but they represent only 18% of the actual electorate. It's the vote count that matters, and I think many people clearly see how obstructionist the Republicans in the Senate are being by threatening to filibuster everything. This will win them points with the radical right, but for most Americans it just shows partisanship. They have paralyzed the government and only the Tea movement thinks that's a good thing.
Every radical right candidate that defeats a more "moderate" Republican is handing a victory to the Democrats in districts that might ordinarily vote moderately conservative.

Of course, we could barter chickens over this-the way they did in the good old days, according to one of your rising stars (who just got trounced in the primaries!)

The majority of Americans are conservative. Democrats won because Bush was not conservative. With this unpopular Healthcare Bill and threats of a Value Added Tax, It will be a bloodbath this November. Republicans will control congress and then we can reverse these anti-capitalist bills and steer America to prosperity once again.

GO TEA PARTY!!!!!!:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Guest 05-09-2010 07:33 PM

Jeremy Hoop
 
From the new "Tea Party Movie"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zntB...ayer_embedded#!


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