I'm sure you do.:rolleyes:

So who is going to determine the limit on income? Are they going to tell us that we make too much so we don't deserve the money that we were forced to contribute? How about if I don't make very much in my retirement? Are they going to give me more? Who determines if one "needs it" or not? If my car breaks down and I can't afford a replacement, and my neighbor has two cars, can I take one of his?

It must be nice to know EXACTLY much I have paid into the social security system and EXACTLY how long I will live, and EXACTLY how much I will receive in social security benefits. Perhaps, you should be a fortune teller - DOGBREATH!

We should be getting back even more than we do, but the gov borrows it instead of investing it to gain on it. If they would have invested my SS in just about anything, it would increased in value and I would be getting more back. If you don't believe that, then check out something as simple as the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. They won't because congress would lose all control of our money and that would not be good. They would not be able to use that money.

You could if Bernie gets elected.


I WANT FREE STUFF!

If "The Bern" gets elected it is not just free stuff. He is going to take money from the rich, we are all going to college for free, and we are all going to be rich!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Really? Hope you're not Catholic. Gotta love those priests, begging for money while the Church lavishes in wealth beyond imagination. Can you say hypocrite?

Yes, I do really donate all my Social Security benefits and my VA disability payments to my church. Needless to say, those are not my only monetary incomes.

No, I am not Catholic. A priest will get a decent salary plus housing benefit, and car benefit in most parishes for a yearly package of around $90,000. They also do get a nice pension and benefits when they retire. The days of taking a vow of poverty are way in the past for ministers or priests.

And so why do you pick on the Catholic religion?
You must be prejudiced? Uninformed? Don't have any idea what your talking about.
Let's do all three and call you a hybrid!

Just for crap and giggles, where and how do you think all the churches get their money.
You don't know about the mega rich that run and operate the mega churches.

I suspect facts do not matter.

Wealth envy is very unbecoming. It just shows how lazy some folks are. If they envy those that have more than them, it means they are too lazy to accomplish what those wealthy did to gain that lifestyle. Why do some believe that it is perfectly OK to take from those better than them in order to obtain that same lifestyle? There is so much opportunity in America, and yet there are still those with the Robinhood mentality. Just plain lazy. I could have worked longer before retiring IF I wished to have more, but I decided to retire instead. That was my choice. In America there is no excuse for someone not enjoying a decent lifestyle, WITHOUT having to take from others via a government strong-arm. Socialism is NOT charity. It is the use of the gov to take from the strong to give to the lazy. Charity comes from the heart, not from the government. If you want the wealthy to pay ten percent taxes, then you should make the lower income earners also pay ten percent. Anything else is discrimination. Do not give me this cr@p about Christian charity or being "fair." Fair is when EVERYONE pays the same percentage. If you want to have more, then you earn more. You don't take from someone else. That is just stealing.

You couldn't be more wrong (or ignorant).

"Fair" is when the playing field is level from the beginning.

I can assure you that if you had been born black, or even a woman, that you would not have been given the head start in life that us white males were given.

I know that's going to hurt your feelings in thinking you were the only one that was responsible for whatever success you might have had, but it is pure ignorance to think otherwise.

Just garbage from the left. You are very ignorant and must have been protected all your life.

I achieved in spite of Affirmative Action and it's attempt to stop me. Why? Because I did not allow Affirmative Action to kill my motivation. NO ONE BUILT my bridges and no one gave me anything. I did it myself, while I supported my family of wife and four children. Hurt my feelings? Why would anything an idiot says hurt my feelings? After all, I am proud of my accomplishments. Not only did I achieve a decent retirement, but I also put my three of my children through private school and even obtained my own college education in my "spare" time. No one "built" that for me. No one "gave" that to me. On top of that, I also served my country both domestic and abroad. No one did it for me and I got no special discount for being a white male. However, I did see white males passed over for jobs and promotions, given to women and blacks that were less qualified and less experienced. But, unlike you on the left that allow these type of circumstances get you down, I still made it and progressed. Even though it was an uphill battle, I did it and no one gets the credit but me and GOD. The gov did not give me anything except the freedom that I earned.

Only an idiot would suggest that blacks and women do not have a fair chance to prosper in today's America. They have been given an easier road than white males. And even so, I never took time to bit*h about it. I used that factor to work harder and find a way to move forward. I didn't look at others and become jealous. I figured that looking at what others had was a waste of effort.

I was once required to attend diversity training as part of a management course. The instructor was black and he had us all sit in a circle. After a short session, he went around the circle and asked each of us in turn, if we would approve of our sister marrying him, a black man. Of course, he got the requisite PC answers until he got to me. When he asked me, I told him that it would be up to my sister, not me. When he asked if I would approve of the marriage, I replied "NO." He immediately jumped on it with a "ah HAA, you're biased." I replied "No, I would not approve of your marriage to my sister because I feel that you are too old for her." He was hoping for a different answer, of course. This is why, when you on the left accuse us of being racists when we do not agree with Obama's policies, you may very well be totally off base and wrong. It may be just what we said, we don't agree with his policies. You are way too fast at the racist conclusion. Some of us do not take race into consideration, but a person's ability and character.

Even though I do not know you, I am assuming that you are an idiot because of your idiotic response. Feel free to correct me, because it is still a free country. You're welcome.

Because they're the oldest, richest, most corrupt sect.

They ALL get their money by conning ignorant parishioners that the lies they're telling are true and asking for a "donation" for your "saving".

ALL religions are BS. Every one of them.

Nature gave white males their "head start" with greater intelligence, drive, ambition, ingenuity, and all the other things that make us "better" at some things. Women and blacks are at a natural disadvantage, THAT is why the quotas and affirmative action, without it they WOULDN'T be able to "compete".

"it is pure ignorance to think otherwise"

No need to correct you, because your ignorance speaks for itself.

You aren't even smart enough to realize that you had a huge head start, being born a white male and are certainly not smart enough to understand what a huge advantage that was.

I'll bet you even think you somehow 'earned' the right to this huge advantage. So tell us, what great feat(s) did you do to be lucky enough to be born a white male? I'll wait.

I would also bet, that had you been born black (or even a female) and suffered a lifetime of racism, bigotry, sexism and prejudice at the hands of people like yourself that you would now be one of those screaming the loudest.

Since you think those who fall under Affirmative Action have had such a great advantage, I assume you now wish that you had been born a black female?

Go ahead and lie that you would have preferred it, but your posts prove otherwise.

Go ahead and enjoy your privilege, as I do, but don't ever forget that it IS a huge advantage.

You are a real piece of work. :a20:

Yes, we were "lucky" to not be born a woman or black or a duck or a cricket. That doesn't mean you replace the smart white man with a duck or a cricket or a woman or a black when the important jobs need doing.

Show me the successful black run society, the woman run society...I'll wait.

This country, the world is devolving because the white men who are the creators and builders are being replaced by those who can't.

Yes, I am, built better than "you". Carefully crafted over 50,000 years of evolution that "you" didn't get. You sat in Africa in your grass hut, digging for roots and grubs, while "my people" built a world domineering civilization. NOW you want "your share" when you didn't "really" contribute. Digging holes and carrying things doesn't count as "contributing" equally. Anything/anybody can be a work mule. It's the architect, the engineer who REALLY built the world.

You are a privileged weakling. Please don't include me in your grouping and generalization. But, if you think that being born white gave me any advantage, I can do no more about that than I can about changing your ignorance. I can not change being white, but you have the option to choose to be ignorant or not. I guess you made your choice.

Obama sure took advantage of being black. If not for being black, he would not be president. He was a nobody with no resume'.

Did being black keep Dr. Carson from becoming successful?

Did being black keep C. Powell down?

Did being black hinder them in any way? Did my being white give me more advantage than them?

You are just a spoiled and ignorant liberal that has never had to work for anything so now you are bored because you have no cause. Why don't you go sponsor a gay pride parade, or hug a tree?

Both were liars...Carson about all his "successes" and Powell...well, he stood before the UN with his charts and photos...and LIED to the world to get us into a war...I have NO respect for him.

They're Ds and Rs, they ALL lie and steal.

And that surprises you? Who else would want to be president?

The founders wanted a lottery, "president duty"...because the LAST person you want as president...is a person that WANTS to be president!

Right now, the last person I want to be president is Hillary or Bernie. I do not live in La-La land of fantasy where I can go shopping for the perfect robot or clone for the job. Even if I could choose the best person, ME for president, I would still be critical and not satisfied that I had chosen the right guy. I will throw my support behind the GOP candidate of choice, regardless of whether or not I personally like him. When I was hiring employees, I chose the best qualified for the job of the available. The perfect employee was never available. But, someone had to fill the position so I made my choice. That is what I am doing now, making my choice.

I will throw my support behind the GOP candidate of choice, regardless of whether or not I personally like him.

That is what I am doing now, making my choice.

The party, your boss, is making your decision.
Did your boss at work tell you who to hire?

Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube

And, they wonder why they can't find good paying jobs. It must be because they are black, that's it. It's because they are black and the world is racist.

"My Niggas"

Just cause I love my niggas, (Ruff Ryders)
I shed blood for my niggas. (Ryde or die)
Let a nigga holla, "Where my niggas?" (Get down or lay down)
All I wanna hear is, "Right here my niggas"
(We here nigga)

You won't take this from me baby!
You will not take this from me baby!
Ya know grrrrr

My niggas some niggas that you don't wanna try
My niggas some niggas that's really do or die
My niggas will have you cowards ready to cry
My niggas will fry my niggas will rob
My niggas keep niggas on they ****in' job
My niggas know what it's like when **** gettin' hard
My niggas stay pullin' you other niggas cards
My niggas It's God my niggas we'll shine
My niggas just knew it was a matter of time
My niggas let me know to keep ****in' with the rhymes
My niggas ain't no longer livin' with crime
My niggas is fine my niggas is good
My niggas keep you niggas knocking on wood
My niggas know how to take it back to the hood
My niggas will put you down right where you stood
My niggas they could my niggas they will
My niggas take you straight to the back & get ill
My niggas give it straight to the bank when we kill
My niggas put niggas on ice til they chill
My niggas is still my niggas is dogs my niggas [echoes]


These are the lyrics. The song was released in 1998. What do you want to discuss?

Wow, same as you and I, just different color skin that's all! :shrug:
Really makes it hard to justify all the government benefits...STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Those are the lyrics. What do you want to discuss?

There is no incentive for them to get a job...EBT card, Obamma phones, HUD housing...all of those things were meant to help, but have actually held them back in life. All they have learned; is how to scam to get more.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

You got something you want to say???

No--I have something to ask. What in the lyrics bothers you? I'll ask a third time. What do you want to discuss?

I just read the thread and I don't see anything that suggests anyone has a problem with the lyrics. There was mention of them not being in grass huts digging for roots, inability to get good jobs, and the lack of a reason to get a job. Thanks for asking 3 times though!
Possibly you want to tell us what you like, or don't like, about the lyrics? Please feel free to do so!

Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube


I read this all wrong. This was a positive statement about equality. I thought it was another racist post and the song was used to make that point.

This Clown CruzerRooney just said he may come back in the race. What a dope.

But a community organizer with no meaningful leadership experience was a great choice....I think millions know different now!

Your too kind!

Give it to a loser like you...no way, get a job and earn your own keep and
You will feel much better about yourself.
Plus you won't be looking for others hard earned $$$!

Not sure if it is racist or not, DMX would have a better understanding of the intent.

The song does seem to portrait a group of people that apparently think little of themselves. Maybe other ethnicity groups refer to themselves as racial slurs too, I am just not aware of it. The Hispanics and Latinos might have a song title "My Spix", The Asian or Pacific Islanders might have a song tiled "My Fish Hedz...Even if they don't, it certainly does not mean they lack equality.

The song does have a catchy beat, I might play it loud in the golf cart. Who would not enjoy singing along to "My Niggaz"!

Do that. You are about 50 years behind the times. Where are you from?

Maybe he be from da 'hood.