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Guest 04-14-2016 07:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212431)
So, YOU would allow restaurants, hotels, or grocery stores to put signs in their windows saying, "Whites Only"?

If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Guest 04-14-2016 07:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212439)
If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Some of you take note that one can have a very strong, passionate opinion and beleif and state it without the need to call others names or disparage the opposition.

Try it and see what a difference it makes where and how you are listened to by others.

Guest 04-14-2016 08:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212439)
If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

Guest 04-14-2016 09:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212470)
Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

So you are advocating, insuating or stating that if one does not go along with the permissiveness of the day they are presenting a negative?

Does that mean freedom of speech has been re-defined? Go along or you are a bad person?

To the point that you think if some have that differing opinion it will affect who buys in TV.....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You can go to the head of the class for drinking the most kool aide and making a fool of ones self and think it is the right thing to do!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 04-14-2016 09:42 AM

I go away for 2 hours for golf and I missed all the fireworks. I need to golf more often.

Guest 04-14-2016 09:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212490)
So you are advocating, insuating or stating that if one does not go along with the permissiveness of the day they are presenting a negative?

Does that mean freedom of speech has been re-defined? Go along or you are a bad person?

To the point that you think if some have that differing opinion it will affect who buys in TV.....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You can go to the head of the class for drinking the most kool aide and making a fool of ones self and think it is the right thing to do!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl:

I think that what he's trying to say is "you are an embarrassment to the Villages". He's worried your thoughts and opinions, no matter how illogical they may be, will attract more ignorant racists.

Guest 04-14-2016 09:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212499)
I go away for 2 hours for golf and I missed all the fireworks. I need to golf more often.

This is mone too--so you don't think I'm going Sybal on you.

There is a practical side to this argument. Suppose the restaurant sign said "No Catholics" and I walk in there with my First Holy Communion book in one hand and my Rosary in the other. Do I really want the chef, the baker, the owner fixing my food and his son the waiter delivering my food?

I've eaten with big mouths that send food back for one reason or another and I wonder.

Guest 04-14-2016 10:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212431)
So, YOU would allow restaurants, hotels, or grocery stores to put signs in their windows saying, "Whites Only"?

Good point but it may be wasted on the poster.

Guest 04-14-2016 10:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212502)
I think that what he's trying to say is "you are an embarrassment to the Villages". He's worried your thoughts and opinions, no matter how illogical they may be, will attract more ignorant racists.

Typical knee jerk, talking point type response to ANYTHING not in line with the posters positions/opinions.
Never any surprises....very repetitive...no value what so ever...and always....ALWAYS..... ignore the opportunity for non name calling, disparaging dialogue.

One begins to think there is no such capability for many.
What a shame!

Guest 04-14-2016 11:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212470)
Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

Well, we have to do something! What we're doing now certainly isn't working. The US has gone from the top, the best, to middle of the road, and it's because of ONE thing, we've lowered the standards for women and minorities. It can't be argued with. PLEASE, show me I'm wrong, don't just tell me.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212499)
I go away for 2 hours for golf and I missed all the fireworks. I need to golf more often.

What does it matter? What do you bring to the discussion? This comment? We were all on the edge of our seats waiting for your infinite wisdom, and THIS is what we get?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212506)
This is mone too--so you don't think I'm going Sybal on you.

There is a practical side to this argument. Suppose the restaurant sign said "No Catholics" and I walk in there with my First Holy Communion book in one hand and my Rosary in the other. Do I really want the chef, the baker, the owner fixing my food and his son the waiter delivering my food?

I've eaten with big mouths that send food back for one reason or another and I wonder.

NO need to wonder. I don't even want to imagine what was in that wedding cake those gays forced a bakery to make for them.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212519)
Typical knee jerk, talking point type response to ANYTHING not in line with the posters positions/opinions.
Never any surprises....very repetitive...no value what so ever...and always....ALWAYS..... ignore the opportunity for non name calling, disparaging dialogue.

One begins to think there is no such capability for many.
What a shame!

They have no other recourse, ALL the facts show they are wrong. Go to a 99.9% black area, tell me it's just like the villages. They're Hypocrites too. Fight for diversity as they live in their 99.9% white safe zone bubble.

Guest 04-14-2016 11:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212431)
So, YOU would allow restaurants, hotels, or grocery stores to put signs in their windows saying, "Whites Only"?

There are NO "white" gays?? Interesting.

Guest 04-14-2016 11:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212490)
So you are advocating, insuating or stating that if one does not go along with the permissiveness of the day they are presenting a negative?

Does that mean freedom of speech has been re-defined? Go along or you are a bad person?

To the point that you think if some have that differing opinion it will affect who buys in TV.....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You can go to the head of the class for drinking the most kool aide and making a fool of ones self and think it is the right thing to do!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl:

:agree:

Guest 04-14-2016 11:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212470)
Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

If this keeps the perverts/abnormal sexual deviants out of the villages, OK. :thumbup:

Guest 04-14-2016 11:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212506)
This is mone too--so you don't think I'm going Sybal on you.

There is a practical side to this argument. Suppose the restaurant sign said "No Catholics" and I walk in there with my First Holy Communion book in one hand and my Rosary in the other. Do I really want the chef, the baker, the owner fixing my food and his son the waiter delivering my food?

I've eaten with big mouths that send food back for one reason or another and I wonder.

I like watching when there is a meltdown. That's all I meant.

You are making my point. Be careful who you hate if you are ordering food from them or they are working in the kitchen. I bake my own cakes.

Guest 04-14-2016 01:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212565)
If this keeps the perverts/abnormal sexual deviants out of the villages, OK. :thumbup:

Maybe you should volunteer as a guest speaker at The Villages Rainbow Club. I am sure they would be most happy to hear your views.

Guest 04-14-2016 02:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212565)
If this keeps the perverts/abnormal sexual deviants out of the villages, OK. :thumbup:

To late.....we are already here!

Guest 04-14-2016 04:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212632)
To late.....we are already here!

:coolsmiley: :boom:

Guest 04-15-2016 03:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212595)
Maybe you should volunteer as a guest speaker at The Villages Rainbow Club. I am sure they would be most happy to hear your views.

Why would I be interested in speaking at a gathering of deviants? Wouldn't that be an endorsement?

Guest 04-15-2016 03:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212632)
To late.....we are already here!

That's great, the first step to recovery....admitting that you have an illness.

Guest 04-15-2016 07:49 AM

Posts 58 and 59 were posted 3 minutes apart at 4:43 and 4:46 a.m.

What is the possibility that we have an early rising loon writing to himself - and we know exactly who he is?

Guest 04-15-2016 08:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212830)
Posts 58 and 59 were posted 3 minutes apart at 4:43 and 4:46 a.m.

What is the possibility that we have an early rising loon writing to himself - and we know exactly who he is?

58 addresses one post,
59 addresses a different post----
How can you conclude the person is talking to themselves?

And just because he or she is up at that hour what difference does that make?
Maybe they are taking care of someone who is ill?

I don't know who it is so who are you including in we.

Guest 04-15-2016 09:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212860)
58 addresses one post,
59 addresses a different post----
How can you conclude the person is talking to themselves?

And just because he or she is up at that hour what difference does that make?
Maybe they are taking care of someone who is ill?

I don't know who it is so who are you including in we.

The WE that he is including himself in, is Sybil the multi-personas liberal on here that trolls consistently, rather than addressing the subject. He is guilty, as pointed out many times of agreeing with and responding to his own posts because many times, no one else will take his bait. Pitiful little fella, that even takes on a female persona when his responses are questioned. Not that it is important, just an observation. He tries to accuse others of doing the same thing that he does because he can't understand why there isn't anyone else that will applaud his half attempt at wit.
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Sybil, for your edification, I was the one that replied to both of those posts.....different posts, neither being authored by myself. And the reason, if any of your business for me being up early is that I am an early riser, and because I also tend to our pets. Not that my quantity of sleep should concern you. I have always been an early riser.

If you feel the need for any further personal information, just take some more wild guesses and fill in the blanks. What you believe or not is of little interest to me.

Guest 04-15-2016 11:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212892)
The WE that he is including himself in, is Sybil the multi-personas liberal on here that trolls consistently, rather than addressing the subject. He is guilty, as pointed out many times of agreeing with and responding to his own posts because many times, no one else will take his bait. Pitiful little fella, that even takes on a female persona when his responses are questioned. Not that it is important, just an observation. He tries to accuse others of doing the same thing that he does because he can't understand why there isn't anyone else that will applaud his half attempt at wit.
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Sybil, for your edification, I was the one that replied to both of those posts.....different posts, neither being authored by myself. And the reason, if any of your business for me being up early is that I am an early riser, and because I also tend to our pets. Not that my quantity of sleep should concern you. I have always been an early riser.

If you feel the need for any further personal information, just take some more wild guesses and fill in the blanks. What you believe or not is of little interest to me.

You totally lost me.
I'm the guy you think has a multiple personality disorder.

I was defending someone's right to post anytime of the day and giving a logical reason why someone could answer 2 posts in a row a couple of minutes apart and not be talking to themselves.

Tell me the posts that you think I made and I'll tell you if it's me or not. Why in the world would I lie? I'm going on a bike ride and will check in later. TOTV is what I do when I'm bored.

Guest 04-15-2016 12:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212936)
You totally lost me.
I'm the guy you think has a multiple personality disorder.

I was defending someone's right to post anytime of the day and giving a logical reason why someone could answer 2 posts in a row a couple of minutes apart and not be talking to themselves.

Tell me the posts that you think I made and I'll tell you if it's me or not. Why in the world would I lie? I'm going on a bike ride and will check in later. TOTV is what I do when I'm bored.

First off, I responded to you in the first part of the post. Then I used a post divider to reply to Sybil the liberal in the second half of the post. If you were confused, then I will take the blame for that confusion. But, I think that now that I explained my intention, you can go back and read my post and see that I had no intention of disparaging you. At any rate, my bad.

Guest 04-15-2016 01:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212981)
First off, I responded to you in the first part of the post. Then I used a post divider to reply to Sybil the liberal in the second half of the post. If you were confused, then I will take the blame for that confusion. But, I think that now that I explained my intention, you can go back and read my post and see that I had no intention of disparaging you. At any rate, my bad.

Still lost.
I am the one you are maliciously and falsely claiming has a multiple personality disorder.

Guest 04-15-2016 04:08 PM

I assume that you replied to post #60, with yours #61.. If you read post #62, that was my post referencing what you replied to when you replied to post #60. I assume that post #60 was not you, or you would have been responding to yourself. The first half of my post was to you, not the second part. The second part was directed toward the one that you responded to. I did use some characters to separate the two parts. Got it? The second part was not directed at you.

Guest 04-15-2016 04:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213083)
I assume that you replied to post #60, with yours #61.. If you read post #62, that was my post referencing what you replied to when you replied to post #60. I assume that post #60 was not you, or you would have been responding to yourself. The first half of my post was to you, not the second part. The second part was directed toward the one that you responded to. I did use some characters to separate the two parts. Got it? The second part was not directed at you.

This is beginning to sound like an Abbot and Costello bit. :posting:

Guest 04-15-2016 06:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212416)
A business owner should choose whom he will and won't do business with. It's not up to you to decide. Find someone who will do business with you. If you can't, well, maybe the problem IS you. Unless they're doing VERY well, no business is going to turn away business unless it's important enough to them.

With that type of thinking, the business owner could refuse to serve anyone. Like it was before 1964. You must have loved South Africa during apartied.

Guest 04-15-2016 09:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212787)
That's great, the first step to recovery....admitting that you have an illness.

Nah...they took it out the DSM years ago!

You must have missed that...you might also have missed that the CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court granted us the right to marry!

I married my partner on our 27th anniversary.

Get over it.....the 1950's are long gone!!!!

Guest 04-15-2016 09:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212439)
If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

So perhaps you didn't read or take in the post on "Public Accommodation? If you are open to the PUBLIC you can't refuse service!

Guest 04-15-2016 09:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211313)
If you're religious, you've been brainwashed. I mean really, God watches over everything and knows everything...about us? Really?

If anything, we're his dissertation on infectious lifeforms on otherwise pristine planets.

Based on my many hours of reading the posts on this area of TOV I have concluded that it is Hillary , Bill and the current guy who are Omnipotent and always watching over us .

Isn`t that how it works . Elect a Dem as President and " all will be OK Johnny and Mary ".

Guest 04-15-2016 09:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213130)
With that type of thinking, the business owner could refuse to serve anyone. Like it was before 1964. You must have loved South Africa during apartied.

Yes and yes.

A business SHOULD be able to refuse service to anyone he pleases. Why would he unless for a good reason? It hits his bottom line. But in the long run, maybe it IS in his best interest because of less problem customers. If YOU have a choice in which business to use, shouldn't the business also have a choice in it's customer?

I guess you don't know much about South Africa. It was a MUCH better place then than now.

Is This The End of South Africa? | The Truth About South Africa
70,000 Whites Murdered in
https://africacheck.org/reports/is-s...facebook-post/

Guest 04-15-2016 10:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213172)
Nah...they took it out the DSM years ago!

You must have missed that...you might also have missed that the CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court granted us the right to marry!

I married my partner on our 27th anniversary.

Get over it.....the 1950's are long gone!!!!

Took it out for political reasons. No "discovery", no reason other than pressure. Blackmail is my guess.

The 50s was the peak for this nation morally and socially. We've been on a steady slide towards 3rd worldism since. Minority children are the next baby boom, they'll change everything as the baby boomers did, NOT for the better...believe me.

And the whole "gay thing". You have a same sex fetish. Unfortunately, you suffered a developmental birth defect. I'm sorry. I'll never condone your deviance. I find the thought of same sex sex revolting. But you have to keep throwing it in my face. We'll all be dead in another 30 years, you've brainwashed the kids to accept all kinds of "diversity". You got your way. Congratulations.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213174)
So perhaps you didn't read or take in the post on "Public Accommodation? If you are open to the PUBLIC you can't refuse service!

That's just a BS law made by politicians who steal from taxpayers and take graft for a living. A law doesn't make it "right". If I have a business, I should be able to choose my customer just as a customer can/doesn't choose me. You can think what you want, but to me a business owner doesn't become a slave with no choice when he hangs an open sign. And that's what you want. YOU get all the choices...they have to obey.

Guest 04-15-2016 11:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213190)
Yes and yes.

A business SHOULD be able to refuse service to anyone he pleases. Why would he unless for a good reason? It hits his bottom line. But in the long run, maybe it IS in his best interest because of less problem customers. If YOU have a choice in which business to use, shouldn't the business also have a choice in it's customer?

I guess you don't know much about South Africa. It was a MUCH better place then than now.

Is This The End of South Africa? | The Truth About South Africa
70,000 Whites Murdered in
https://africacheck.org/reports/is-s...facebook-post/

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes a section on Public Accommodation. As well as the ADA in 1990.

There was a good example of this principle earlier in this thread.

But here is the lawsuit explanation:BORNE vs. HAVERHILL GOLF & COUNTRY CLUB, INC., 58 Mass. App. Ct. 306

But in a nutshell if you own a business that serves the PUBLIC then you cannot refuse service to the public.

Guest 04-15-2016 11:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212387)
Unless the gov owns the bakery, it IS a private bakery. It is a privately owned business, is it not? I am sure that these owners will not be hurt too greatly by gays boycotting their bakeries.

And this is not JUST related to bakeries. It has to do with allowing cross dressing perverts into opposite gender restrooms. If gays want to boycott those states that want to accommodate the majority view, then I say "adios amigas." And don't let the speed limit hinder you when passing through the state.

Actually, no! You may own the business but if you hang a sign in the window OPEN then you must accept whoever walks through that door. If you are a photographer and you advertise in the yellow pages then you must accommodate the public....

So my partner and I invited our closest friends and family to a Sunday Brunch at a very fancy hotel for our 20th anniversary. We wanted a photographer to take pictures, I looked in the Yellow Pages and called the first person on the list. I explained what I wanted and when and asked if he was available. He said yes and then I said do you have any objections to gays. He said no and I hired him.

I wouldn't have wanted someone who didn't want to be there! Would you?

Guest 04-16-2016 05:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213206)
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes a section on Public Accommodation. As well as the ADA in 1990.

There was a good example of this principle earlier in this thread.

But here is the lawsuit explanation:BORNE vs. HAVERHILL GOLF & COUNTRY CLUB, INC., 58 Mass. App. Ct. 306

But in a nutshell if you own a business that serves the PUBLIC then you cannot refuse service to the public.

I was the OP for this subject matter that one poster described as me being "high and mighty"when my only purpose was to have civil discourse on an issue that strikes at the very fabric of our lives.

The assault on religious freedom/liberty fundamentally affects us all because despite your political views it is an affront and an intrusion by a government that slice by slice takes away all freedoms. Indeed government is clever on how they package such assaults.

One poster likened the gay issue with the black issue but they are nothing alike but they are packaged alike.

the problem with this entire civil rights issue and accommodation issue is people go overboard with it. Its one thing to say people have legal rights its quite another for the government to decide who should be more equal than others.

The civil rights act went over board with its affirmative action program forced integration. the gay issue has gone so over board they are pushing their life style as preferred. The elimination of gender nouns, homosexual acts abound on prime time TV intentionally as a means of normalization and socialization/ Young kids coming of age are vulnerable to these suggestions depicting gay sex as cool and exciting

I had to deal with public accommodation affirmative action etc and what I found were unreasonable demands by people and government

I believe in live let live but in today's America the abnormal are defining the new normal and in my humble view its not working out very well. so the last bastion of traditional normal is Christianity meaning religious beliefs of nuclear family as the basis of a society and all that flows from it and that threatens the new normal

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-16-2016 06:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213220)
I was the OP for this subject matter that one poster described as me being "high and mighty"when my only purpose was to have civil discourse on an issue that strikes at the very fabric of our lives.

The assault on religious freedom/liberty fundamentally affects us all because despite your political views it is an affront and an intrusion by a government that slice by slice takes away all freedoms. Indeed government is clever on how they package such assaults.

One poster likened the gay issue with the black issue but they are nothing alike but they are packaged alike.

the problem with this entire civil rights issue and accommodation issue is people go overboard with it. Its one thing to say people have legal rights its quite another for the government to decide who should be more equal than others.

The civil rights act went over board with its affirmative action program forced integration. the gay issue has gone so over board they are pushing their life style as preferred. The elimination of gender nouns, homosexual acts abound on prime time TV intentionally as a means of normalization and socialization/ Young kids coming of age are vulnerable to these suggestions depicting gay sex as cool and exciting

I had to deal with public accommodation affirmative action etc and what I found were unreasonable demands by people and government

I believe in live let live but in today's America the abnormal are defining the new normal and in my humble view its not working out very well. so the last bastion of traditional normal is Christianity meaning religious beliefs of nuclear family as the basis of a society and all that flows from it and that threatens the new normal

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:....:thumbup:

Guest 04-16-2016 09:14 AM

The left declares business owners who desire to abide by their personal and religious beliefs as criminals inflicting monetary fines and jail time. Isn't this what totalitarian states do? The left orchestrates boycotts to punish businesses that refute their agenda.

The left with an agenda of contempt, revenge and retribution demanding subordination of those that disagree with them and eschew reasonable requests for coming to a reasonable agreement on many issues.

Indeed Senator (D) Whitehouse move to declare climate change dissenters as criminals who must be indicted under the RICO act is one of a myraid of example. He has caught the ear of Obama and Obama's DOJ

This issue alone is more important than the noise coming from media about this election but continues to get pushed aside by the left because there is a thin veneer between the truth and the continue farce they heave at society.

Lefties are clever and artful dodger. Look at their mentors the Clintons, Obama, Schummer, Pelosi, Reid Dodd, Frank, the Senator? from Harlem that should be in jail for tax evasion , Sharpton,.........I better sop not enough room to finish the list of lefties

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-16-2016 10:01 AM

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The left declares business owners who desire to abide by their personal and religious beliefs as criminals inflicting monetary fines and jail time. Isn't this what totalitarian states do? The left orchestrates boycotts to punish businesses that refute their agenda.

The left with an agenda of contempt, revenge and retribution demanding subordination of those that disagree with them and eschew reasonable requests for coming to a reasonable agreement on many issues.

Indeed Senator (D) Whitehouse move to declare climate change dissenters as criminals who must be indicted under the RICO act is one of a myraid of example. He has caught the ear of Obama and Obama's DOJ

This issue alone is more important than the noise coming from media about this election but continues to get pushed aside by the left because there is a thin veneer between the truth and the continue farce they heave at society.

Lefties are clever and artful dodger. Look at their mentors the Clintons, Obama, Schummer, Pelosi, Reid Dodd, Frank, the Senator? from Harlem that should be in jail for tax evasion , Sharpton,.........I better sop not enough room to finish the list of lefties

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Took it out for political reasons. No "discovery", no reason other than pressure. Blackmail is my guess.

The 50s was the peak for this nation morally and socially. We've been on a steady slide towards 3rd worldism since. Minority children are the next baby boom, they'll change everything as the baby boomers did, NOT for the better...believe me.

And the whole "gay thing". You have a same sex fetish. Unfortunately, you suffered a developmental birth defect. I'm sorry. I'll never condone your deviance. I find the thought of same sex sex revolting. But you have to keep throwing it in my face. We'll all be dead in another 30 years, you've brainwashed the kids to accept all kinds of "diversity". You got your way. Congratulations.



That's just a BS law made by politicians who steal from taxpayers and take graft for a living. A law doesn't make it "right". If I have a business, I should be able to choose my customer just as a customer can/doesn't choose me. You can think what you want, but to me a business owner doesn't become a slave with no choice when he hangs an open sign. And that's what you want. YOU get all the choices...they have to obey.

I personally have NEVER thrown anything IN YOUR FACE!

I make every attempt in my life to follow the laws in this country. If you don't then you are anarchist. The Republican party can't govern even with control of both the House and the Senate. You seem to hate everything!


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