Soundspretty STRAIGHT to me!

Give me their phone number and I'll give them a call. What an idiot!

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You realize we are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you consider that law intrusive or unjust?

Only when it is abused or used by those in the group who trend to exploitation of the intent. Especially those who measure everything in terms of what they think is owed to them just because they are a member of that group.

And in our current mentality and permissive society we buckle to everything that is exploited. The only criteria seems to be if you are black you must be right!!

...and we have our weekly winner of The Villages Tea Party "White Sheet With Matching Hood" award! It will be presented at the weekly cross burning ceremony. Congratulations!

How many times have you been awarded the Darwin award?

The Civil Rights Act 1964 was highly political, redundant and the over reaching by the federal government . Forced school integration, Affirmative Action programs and racial preference for college/university entry are/were intrusive and unjust. In essence all that flowed from the Civil Rights Act has been discriminatory in nature and as such an abridgment of every citizens rights. So yes the law was/is intrusive and the law was/is unjust.

Meantime the assault on religious freedom/liberty continues. The concerted effort by the gay community with a little help from their useful idiot friends in the news media, Hollywood etc continue intrusive and unjust demands of ordinary citizens accusing them of crimes . The economic pressure placed by them and their useful idiot is now taking its toll on corporations who do not want to get caught up in boycotts, etc. So now we have government telling citizens that can't practice their faith as they believe and corporations telling their employees via employee handbooks they can't practice their faith as they believe. An employee wrote in a newsletter that he quit Home Depot because of their support of Gay Pride Parades and would not participate. Were will all this end? But it will end badly.

One poster keeps referring to me as high and mighty and I cringe at the thought that whoever this poster is s/he can't see that what s/he calls high and mighty as my plea/prayer for clarity of mind concerning this subject matter. Because this government continues under the guise of "common good" to strip citizens of their freedoms and some of these unfortunates are applauding the government as they do

Personal Best Regards:

He has won all the smart a$$ response awards so maybe the dribble put forth can go into another who gives a :censored: what he said category!

You and I have had some discussions on micro-aggression in the past. And I am not the poster you refer to above.
In my opinion, the micro-aggression movement is all about people, who in the past were subjected to discrimination, but now in the age of political correctness, have less and less injury. So now they have to create some... but now the tide is beginning to turn.

The Microaggression Farce | City Journal

Microaggressions and the Rise of Victimhood Culture - The Atlantic

By the same token Christianity has been the dominant religion in the United States for a long time however, that tide is turning as well. I don't see saying Season Greetings as contributing to the "War on Christmas".

I remember the Civil Rights movement in the 60's even though I was only 10ish at the time. No business now would even think of refusing service to a person of color.

I respect your right to Freedom of Religion but I fail to see how making a cake for a gay wedding, especially if it is picked up from a bakery, could impinge on your freedom of religion. I can understand how making a minster or priest officiate at a gay wedding is unreasonable.

At the time of the Civil Right Act people of color were subjected to discrimination in everyday life. In the 50's gays were hunted by the police, the military and even Congressional panels. I really fail to see how this act could be deemed over reach.

These are just my thoughts on the subject and are not aimed at anyone or any religion.

The government keeps saving him and we get more and more just like him...should have been weeded out, but was protected and saved.

In the actual Cases which have been " created " to provoke the desired response . The Gay Couples involved were insisting that the Bakery be present at their Reception to ensure that the cake was safely delivered and presented at the appropriate time .

Ok well here goes . One of my daughters was an International Figure Skating Competitor .
Most of her coaches , choreographers , music producers , costume makers ,
and off ice ballet coaches were Gay Men . Some of their names most people would recognize .
I spent may a long weekend in many rinks in the US and Canada sitting in the stands with them .
What I learned was that Gay Men do not care for Lesbians or Transgender people . When I asked them about the LGBT " Movement " they all said the same thing " political convenience " .
And believe me they use some very derogatory descriptors of any group of people who are Gay Women , Trans-sexual and as they call us " The Breeders " .
That was behind my point but hey what do I know ? As you said I am an " IDIOT ".
Because in your life experience you know far more than me .

That's the problem, most people with an opinion about something HEARD that opinion from someone else and have no real life experience.

After further review here are the actual facts of the case:

https://www.oregon.gov/boli/SiteAsse...Cakes%20FO.pdf

In Nov 2011 this couple purchased a wedding cake from Sweet Cakes for one of couples mother. There was no incident. In 2013 they went back to Sweet Cakes to order a wedding cake for themselves. When asked for the Bride and Grooms name the couple responded with 2 women's names. At that point the baker refused to bake the cake and called the women an "Abomination".

Is was in no way a make up case. I have included the actual ruling from the case.

Wherever you got your information it appears they misled you about the facts of the case. Perhaps you could provide a link to the source of your information for review.

He had or should have had every eight to say/do that. Some day the bar may be lowered so far that even YOU consider it too far. Should you be forced to work for someone you loathe?

I am afraid, in point of fact, that has already happened to me. I already said that no clergy should be required to perform a wedding for a gay couple. To me that is a bridge to far....but I also don't agree with the Catholic nuns who are way over the top on birth control pill coverage.

Your religious freedom cannot trump someone's Civil Rights....

Do you have a link that supports the statement that these women wanted the cake to be delivered?

I`m not the person you are addressing . However have you ever heard of someone picking up their Wedding Cake . 90% of the time the Wedding Cake is deliverred to the site of the post-ceremony reception .

That has nothing to do with "Civil Rights." Show me where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights that mandates the gov to cover health care. Birth Control and Contraception is a convenience. The gov should not attempt to mandate a lifestyle. Gov tyranny is what caused the origination of United States.

They use the tired old : "Provide for the general welfare" as the excuse to give away all kinds of things. As the reason for quotas and affirmative action. Even for corporate welfare since it will "benefit" some people.

Tyranny will be the end of it too.

It's not different this time...

The discussions about the cake was over as soon as both names on the cake were female. The bakery owner stated they were an abomination.

Perhaps if the bakery owner had been a little over the top this might not have gone to court.

You mean that the owner should compromise. He/she could have handled it a bit better. They should have made the cake and then dropped it when they got it to it's destination.....whoops. Instead of being honest with how they feel. He/she could have told them to kiss his @ss, but they probably would have.

Remember, it's OK for the gays to call you a bigot, but please remember not to use derogatory names when describing their deviant, abnormal nature.

That goes for women and minorities too. It's always someone else responsible for their woes.

Men and whites, the devils...always in control, telling them what to do.

But look what happens when you let them "run their own life". The minorities fall into squalor and poverty and the women end up on welfare with kids from different fathers. We really need to go back to the ways of the 50s. The gays end up dead from AIDS.

Now just I minute.....the people he spoke to where a women and her mother. He asked for the names and then he went off on a religious rant. It could have been handled differently.

I wil refrain from any remarks on the rest of your post! Other than this: :censored::loco:

I don't think that these laws are just about baking cakes. There seems to be an issue of transgenders and restrooms. I don't know about you, but my wife and daughters do not want to share a restroom with a guy dresses as a woman. Perhaps you are a different type of woman, that does not have that modesty. But, just because there has been an issue about the selling of a cake, does not make that the whole issue. We have nuns that are being told to supply birth control, as well as other businesses required to do the same, when they do not wish to for reason of religious faith. What's next, is the gov going to require Jews and Muslims to consume pork?

Women are very adamant about a woman's choice to commit baby murder(abortion) and insist that it is a RIGHT. Gays are adamant that it is their RIGHT to same sex marriage. Minorities insist that Affirmative Action is a Right. Socialists insist that the Wealthy pay for Free College, that education is a RIGHT. Muslims insist that it is a right for a woman to have her drivers license photo be taken with them wearing a burka covering their face.

Interesting that the 1st Amendment does not cover any of those RIGHTS but it does include Religious Freedom, not from religion but the free practice of religion.

And we have someone worried about a gay wedding cake. Go figure.

First, transgender does not mean dressing up in women's clothes. If you have to ever been in a women's bathroom, you would know each toilet has a private stall. You would not know if the person in the next stall was a male or female.

Affirmative Action is no more! No state allows a driver license photo to have the face covered. Free college is a campaign issue but has no chance of becoming law. Abortion and same sex marriage are both the law of the land!

As for the free practice of religion you want - how do you feel about Wiccan rites being practiced in a VA Hospital and the government having to hire a Wiccan priest? Or the freedom to practice the Voodoo religion with sacrificial deflowering of unwilling virgins? Or female circumcision to an unwilling girl?

Do you try to be ignorant or are you really that stupid.

AIDS wasn't a disease until the 80's, fully 30 years after the 50's...

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics...aids-timeline/

Now its a disease that can be managed with medication.

Its hard to believe.....

I am the OP on the Country Club example that has NOTHING to do with bathrooms....

What is it with the bathroom issue....

Do you really think that women are not being attacked in bathrooms now?

Woman raped in bathroom at Manhattan bar | New York Post

Rape in the USA

https://rainn.org/get-information/st...sexual-assault

A women is raped in this country every 107 secs and you are worried about transgender's....Why don't we focus on rape?

About 50% of " transgender " males do not have " bottom surgery ". I think it would only be fair that it be required that urnals be available in ALL rest rooms . We would not wish to inconvenience that portion of the LGBT Community .

Yes, let's make it easier for the rapes by allowing men dressed as women to enter the restrooms. Do not make laws prohibiting this because it might offend those that are gender confused. Perhaps we can get Hillary's view on this?

And just how does this rant help? Can men not already get into women's bathroom?

Did you NOT see the stats on rape? Or is it you think they are all lieing or they were asking for it?

You're right, we should leave our home open because burglars can get in anyway. Leave your car unlocked because they will get in anyway. Why make a law prohibiting men in female restrooms, if they are just going to go into them anyway? Just remember that a male wanted to protect the female. And this male will protect his own family. Too bad others don't care enough about their family to want to protect the females in it.

Wait a minute...the media keeps telling me women are EQUAL...they can do anything men can do...so why do we need to "protect" them?

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My daughter knows self-defense and also carries a gun, legally. She's fine. Her daughter is a national competition wrestler, so I bet she is fine too. But, my wife is small and 72, and never suggested that she was equal. And I had better hold the door open for her, or I will incur her wrath for a long time.

Just the same, I'll protect the women whether they ask for it or not. I never did like scumbag perverts. So, if you need to go, it better be in the restroom suited to your plumbing or someone else may feel as I do. And if you are in NC, no one is going to complain about a gender confused person getting a little counseling in an assertive manner. And if I am waiting at the door for my family to come out of the restroom, there won't be ANY males entering, as long as I can tell the difference. And in most cases, you can slap on all the makeup you wish, and I'll still be able to tell. I don't have any problems with a tranny entering the male restroom to use the urinal. I've seen a lot of crazy in my lifetime and that isn't going to bother me.

Just my view on the issue. What a person does in the privacy of one's home is their business. Involve me or mine and it may be a totally different matter.

Make way for the he/she. And you are saying that this is what you're OK following your wife or daughter into the restroom?