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Guest 12-22-2015 09:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162004)
If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, maybe it's a duck

Socialist, Communist and now a duck.....

And I haven't called anyone a name...it's not me.

Guest 12-23-2015 06:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162071)
Socialist, Communist and now a duck.....

And I haven't called anyone a name...it's not me.

Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

Guest 12-23-2015 09:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162106)
Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

And the hits just keep on coming.....

Guest 12-23-2015 09:12 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162106)
Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:

Guest 12-23-2015 09:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162193)
Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:

It really would be remarkable to find a Republican intelligent enough to admit that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs, eh?

Guest 12-23-2015 09:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162193)
Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:


It's not the end of the story, Social Security and Medicare are social programs implemented by a Democratic Republic and NOT socialist programs implemented by a socialist government. End of story!

Guest 12-23-2015 09:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162199)
It really would be remarkable to find a Republican intelligent enough to admit that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs, eh?

If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??

Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.

Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.

Guest 12-23-2015 09:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162207)
If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??



Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.



Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.


They only represent themselves.

Guest 12-23-2015 02:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162207)
If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??

Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.

Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.

If you saved for yourself and controlled that money, 401K or IRA then those are NOT a socialist program. However, while we all contribute to SS and Medicare we do not control that money in any way which = Socialist program setup by a great Democratic President FDR.

Guest 12-23-2015 03:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162336)
If you saved for yourself and controlled that money, 401K or IRA then those are NOT a socialist program. However, while we all contribute to SS and Medicare we do not control that money in any way which = Socialist program setup by a great Democratic President FDR.

Really?
How convenient to make your point. However, incorrect!
When I am making a withdrawal of what I contributed to all my life it has nothing to do with socialism.

As I said before social security becomes socialistic when that money/benfit is GIVEN to NON CONTRIBUTORS.

Guest 12-23-2015 03:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162340)
Really?
How convenient to make your point. However, incorrect!
When I am making a withdrawal of what I contributed to all my life it has nothing to do with socialism.

As I said before social security becomes socialistic when that money/benfit is GIVEN to NON CONTRIBUTORS.

It IS given to non-contributors. When a spouse gets SS based on your SS level, and he/she has never been employed or not enough to be eligible for full benefits, then they are getting money they did not contribute. Those that receive Social Security Disability may be getting money they didn't contribute. You do not have a choice as to whether or not you contribute part of your paycheck to SS or Medicare. It's taken from you, not donated.

In my case, Medicare is wasted money because I will never use it. You pay for 40 years then you get the basic Medicare A which covers hospitalization. Nothing else. You have to pay an additional $100+ for Medicare B to get any more health care benefits. I have private insurance and will never need Medicare, so all that money that I had taken from me is used to pay for someone that never paid into it,,,,,stolen to fund Obamacare.

So, yes SS and medicare is socialist whether we like it or not. In my case, I could have made some pretty good money off of all those deductions. But, when you have a socialist president like.....Roosevelt and Johnson, that's what you get. I'll get my money back, but I doubt it will be around for my children and definitely not the grandchildren. It will be a new program of some sort. Some brainiac will come up with some hair brained idea that will add more to the national debt......like Obamacare.

Guest 12-23-2015 06:38 PM

How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

Guest 12-23-2015 07:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162399)
How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.
And to call the school system a socialist situation is a stretch to make a point.

My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

Guest 12-23-2015 07:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162399)
How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.


And we have a winner....

Socialism is Alive and Well in Your Child

I have no children and yet I pay to fund the public school system. But then again I did go to public schools.

Guest 12-23-2015 07:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162408)
When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.
And to call the school system a socialist situation is a stretch to make a point.

My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

Really, a stretch? The entire country, all the states have FREE public education. Like you said if you don't have the money, you don't get it.


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