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Guest 12-23-2015 07:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162399)
How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

Guest 12-23-2015 08:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162408)
When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.


My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

Right on! This is BS. If someone doesn't have money for food, clothes, or housing for their families, they should go without it. After all, I am an American Republican!!

Guest 12-23-2015 09:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162439)
Right on! This is BS. If someone doesn't have money for food, clothes, or housing for their families, they should go without it. After all, I am an American Republican!!

Naw, you are Sybil the liberal.

Guest 12-24-2015 09:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162416)
Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

Obviously not every child can go to private schools as your children did, so what do you do with the millions who can't?

Guest 12-24-2015 09:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162575)
Obviously not every child can go to private schools as your children did, so what do you do with the millions who can't?

Home school!

Guest 12-24-2015 10:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162416)
Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

Hmmmnnnn maybe you lived in a shady school district.

This is a very biaesd and unfair description you put forth for public schools:

"...with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence...."

Most of us went to public schools as did our children and were NEVER EVER exposed to or experienced any of those thing.

It had to be where you lived or you just had your mind made up (which is fine) but please do not tar a system that does in fact deserve better than what you use as a basis for your decision!!!

Guest 12-24-2015 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162416)
Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

You believed in public education until faith and patriotism were removed? The daily reciting of the Pledge was juste a rote memorization and meant nothing to kids. Faith is left up to Sunday School. Teachers were banned from disciplining kids - good! That is up to parents and not teachers. Teachers can write notes or call parents about their student but not physically disclipine them! Chaos never reigned in the public schools our child went to.

Nothing about being liberal or conservative.

Guest 12-24-2015 12:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162609)
You believed in public education until faith and patriotism were removed? The daily reciting of the Pledge was juste a rote memorization and meant nothing to kids. Faith is left up to Sunday School. Teachers were banned from disciplining kids - good! That is up to parents and not teachers. Teachers can write notes or call parents about their student but not physically disclipine them! Chaos never reigned in the public schools our child went to.

Nothing about being liberal or conservative.

Hate to say it, but I am not sure how else to put it. You obviously don't understand what the children are missing in public schools now.

The Pledge "just a rote memorization?" You don't think that kids learned about the flag and what each component represents? If you don't believe that children learn about patriotism in school, then I'm worried about you and suspect that it is thinking like that that will move our nation toward communism. Yep, I said it.
Faith was removed from school. There was absolutely nothing wrong with having GOD in school. By removing it, banning it from school you don't give the children a choice and you program them to shun religion. I see nothing in the constitution to suggest Freedom From Religion, contrary to what liberals and atheist attempt to suggest. The gov is not allowed to have a state mandated religion, but there is nothing in the constitution that says it may not have religion. For some reason, the liberals/atheists have been able to convince the Supremes that religion in schools is a bad thing. It isn't.
These are age old arguments and I have yet to see a positive gained by removing these things from public schools.
So, you wonder why I put my children in private school? Because they because good, stable adults, never having used drugs or tobacco or abused alcohol. And they are patriotic and are raising their children to be good stable citizens. And my children received a superior education in private school.
In my opinion, if liberals don't like something, then they want it banned for everyone. And yet, they have no problem having the children study Islam in public school. The children cannot wear an American flag but it is OK to wear a Mexican or African flag.
When I suggested teacher discipline, I did not mean corporal punishment. And I am sure you knew that. That is a very lame idea to suggest that a problem child can be disciplined at home via a letter from the principal. I have seen teachers assaulted by teenagers because they knew that the teachers were forbidden to defend themselves.
Sorry, but your false indignity is not the view of the majority.

Guest 12-24-2015 12:32 PM

I always get a kick out of people who are so blinded by their prejudices they think they are the "majority"

Guest 12-24-2015 12:40 PM

If one does not like or believe in the pledge....don't say it.

If one does not like or want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS then don't.

If one does not like to see the Christmas display don't look at it.

If you don't like us saying a prayer in school, at a ball game, at a banquet, etc, you don't have to participate.

If you don't like the 10 Commandments in the court house, don't look at them.

And many more just like it that the minority groups or special interest groups or racial groups or hate groups don't care for.

JUST DON'T TRY TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. If you don't like it here....grin and bear it or shut up and go home!!

The MAJORITY of us still believe in all those things that were OK with the majority when we were growing up. They are still OK with the majority today, but some how the minority, special interest, racial, religious minority groups get an amolified voice and the liberal media and linguine spined administrators cave under the stuois notion of political correctness (lisence for NOT DOING what is right).

We like America the way it was and is in many places.

Believe and support what you want.....JUST STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND CHANGE WHAT THE REST OF US ENJOY AS AMERICANS.

Guest 12-24-2015 12:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162656)
I always get a kick out of people who are so blinded by their prejudices they think they are the "majority"

I DON'T really get a kick out of listening to a subject of the minority make a lot of noise to cover up for the fact that he is just a small entity in a large group that silently disapproves of him. Just because you make more noise than the majority, does not make you a large group, just a big mouth.

Prejudice defined by your ilk is anyone that you don't agree with.

Guest 12-24-2015 02:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162663)
I DON'T really get a kick out of listening to a subject of the minority make a lot of noise to cover up for the fact that he is just a small entity in a large group that silently disapproves of him. Just because you make more noise than the majority, does not make you a large group, just a big mouth.

Prejudice defined by your ilk is anyone that you don't agree with.

:boom:

Guest 12-24-2015 05:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162659)
If one does not like or believe in the pledge....don't say it.

If one does not like or want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS then don't.

If one does not like to see the Christmas display don't look at it.

If you don't like us saying a prayer in school, at a ball game, at a banquet, etc, you don't have to participate.

If you don't like the 10 Commandments in the court house, don't look at them.

And many more just like it that the minority groups or special interest groups or racial groups or hate groups don't care for.

JUST DON'T TRY TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. If you don't like it here....grin and bear it or shut up and go home!!

The MAJORITY of us still believe in all those things that were OK with the majority when we were growing up. They are still OK with the majority today, but some how the minority, special interest, racial, religious minority groups get an amolified voice and the liberal media and linguine spined administrators cave under the stuois notion of political correctness (lisence for NOT DOING what is right).

We like America the way it was and is in many places.

Believe and support what you want.....JUST STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND CHANGE WHAT THE REST OF US ENJOY AS AMERICANS.

And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

Guest 12-24-2015 05:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162731)
And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

And once again you make an erroneous assumption to hear yourself talk about what you wnt to hear.

Nobody said anything about white christians......YOU DID!!!

Go back and read it again!!!!

Careful or you will get a lump of coal tonight!

Merry Christmas (no hidden meanings or between the lines messaging!)......just simply Merry Christmas.

Guest 12-24-2015 06:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1162732)
And once again you make an erroneous assumption to hear yourself talk about what you wnt to hear.

Nobody said anything about white christians......YOU DID!!!

Go back and read it again!!!!

Careful or you will get a lump of coal tonight!

Merry Christmas (no hidden meanings or between the lines messaging!)......just simply Merry Christmas.

And a simple Merry Christmas to you as well.


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