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Guest 04-12-2016 08:12 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211478)
You nailed it. My god, a woman in charge! Their fragile egos will really take a blow. I am so looking forward to it.:girlneener:

And it'll go the same way it always goes when a woman is in charge...to hell.

Guest 04-12-2016 09:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211540)
And it'll go the same way it always goes when a woman is in charge...to hell.

Will this GOP embarrassment ever stop?


Guest 04-12-2016 09:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211540)
And it'll go the same way it always goes when a woman is in charge...to hell.


Your wife must be so proud.

Guest 04-12-2016 01:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211579)
Will this GOP embarrassment ever stop?


See, there in is the puzzle. The GOP IS embarrassed. Liberals don't get embarrassed because they have no class and they don't care. They are perfectly willing to elect criminals, liars and cheats....and are proud of it. They depend on the GOP to bail them out of the trouble that they get into. So, yes the GOP is embarrassed. Trump slips and uses vulgar language. Hillary does the same thing and there is no big news flash on her slip. Bernie IS vulgar and a pervert and liberals think it is novel. The liberals flock to be in the same area as Slick Willie Clinton, knowing he is a sleaze that will hit on every female from teen up. Marion Barry, past mayor of D.C. was convicted of drug charges and got re-elected.....a Democrat. Obama wrote in his books that he used drugs almost all his life, and liberals thought he was hip and just one of the cool guys. Hillary is a felon and a liar, and is also being investigated by the IRS for tax fraud.

And the GOP is embarrassed. Yep, embarrassed for America because of the past seven years. Embarrassed to think that we have such lazy youth in this country that they need welfare. Embarrassed because our president thinks that we don't realize that when he says he is "leading from behind" it really means that he is a follower.

But, the GOP IS embarrassed. :sigh:

Guest 04-12-2016 01:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211684)

And the GOP is embarrassed.

Hate embarrases the party. It's hard to be both Christ-like and support hate. The Pope get's it.

Guest 04-12-2016 01:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211695)
Hate embarrases the party. It's hard to be both Christ-like and support hate. The Pope get's it.

How would an atheist liberal know? And I am not Catholic so what the Pope says doesn't mean anything to me.

Guest 04-12-2016 02:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211702)
How would an atheist liberal know? And I am not Catholic so what the Pope says doesn't mean anything to me.

When the Pope said "Do onto others......" Congress wept. Ask yourself why.
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Guest 04-13-2016 06:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211707)
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Then why do they keep screwing us? Why do we keep voting for KNOWN liars and thieves?

Guest 04-13-2016 06:44 AM

Uninformed, blind partisan, stupid, lethargic, do nothing we the people +++++

all those that do not want the freebies to stop =

re-elected crooks, liars and theives

Guest 04-13-2016 07:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211707)
When the Pope said "Do onto others......" Congress wept. Ask yourself why.
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

Guest 04-13-2016 07:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211925)
Then why do they keep screwing us? Why do we keep voting for KNOWN liars and thieves?

The reason why liars and thieves such as Hillary get elected is because they are being elected by atheists that have no conception of what the Pope said.

Guest 04-13-2016 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211962)
Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

see for yourself

Unless Trump had the words copyrighted that's what his point was. It's a universal truth----

or was this bait---hard to tell who is speaking their mind or starting an argument for argument's sake

Guest 04-13-2016 08:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211974)
see for yourself

Unless Trump had the words copyrighted that's what his point was. It's a universal truth----

or was this bait---hard to tell who is speaking their mind or starting an argument for argument's sake

I'm just wondering how anything the Pope said would have any influence on liberals? They are mostly atheists, and the gays are adamantly against the Bible or anything that suggests that they are deviant and abnormal. So, other than the purpose of using the Pope and/or the Bible in an argument against conservatives, what is the purpose of bringing the Pope into the discussion? The Pope is a foreigner, not American and should not even be considered in American politics. He is after all, from a socialist country and leans that way in his politics. His addressing congress was just their purpose of using him toward their political agenda, whether conservative or liberal.

He is a socialist
He is against gay deviancy
He is against abortion
He is against a border wall, yet has one surrounding the Vatican city.

So, anyway you look at him, he is a good man but NOT an American and should not be considered in any way an influence to the American Way of life.

Guest 04-13-2016 10:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211988)
I'm just wondering how anything the Pope said would have any influence on liberals? They are mostly atheists, and the gays are adamantly against the Bible or anything that suggests that they are deviant and abnormal. So, other than the purpose of using the Pope and/or the Bible in an argument against conservatives, what is the purpose of bringing the Pope into the discussion? The Pope is a foreigner, not American and should not even be considered in American politics. He is after all, from a socialist country and leans that way in his politics. His addressing congress was just their purpose of using him toward their political agenda, whether conservative or liberal.

He is a socialist
He is against gay deviancy
He is against abortion
He is against a border wall, yet has one surrounding the Vatican city.

So, anyway you look at him, he is a good man but NOT an American and should not be considered in any way an influence to the American Way of life.

I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

Guest 04-13-2016 10:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212067)
I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

It enables those with limited capacities to respond without much if any thought.
Canned positions per cubbyhole.

Guest 04-13-2016 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212071)
It enables those with limited capacities to respond without much if any thought.
Canned positions per cubbyhole.

Either that's the first time you gave an answer I respect or someone answered for you.

Guest 04-13-2016 12:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212067)
I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

And what if anything, does this have to do with embarrassed Republicans? Like the question went, who wept? You can put a video up, but what does that mean? It means that some of those that wept were shown. Why did they weep? Are you suggesting that one phrase caused it? And since when does one side get all the benefit of "cubbyhole people?" Are you liberals not famous for diverting and asking stupid questions, just to change the subject so that they don't have to add to the conversation?

If you READ the response, you will see that I said that the Pope was a good man. If liberals wish to use religion as a defense for not committing to a conversation, go for it. Maybe you liberals will learn something. But, just because the majority of conservatives are Christian, doesn't mean being Christian is a liability. Only atheist liberals think being religious is a weakness to be used against conservatives. And feel free to argue that liberals are Christian too. Facts show that there are a higher majority of conservative Christians than Liberals that claim to be Christian.

So, now that you have diverted from the topic, feel free to either go on your merry (I did not say gay) way or return to the topic. Your choice.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212124)
And what if anything, does this have to do with embarrassed Republicans? Like the question went, who wept? You can put a video up, but what does that mean? It means that some of those that wept were shown. Why did they weep? Are you suggesting that one phrase caused it? And since when does one side get all the benefit of "cubbyhole people?" Are you liberals not famous for diverting and asking stupid questions, just to change the subject so that they don't have to add to the conversation?

If you READ the response, you will see that I said that the Pope was a good man. If liberals wish to use religion as a defense for not committing to a conversation, go for it. Maybe you liberals will learn something. But, just because the majority of conservatives are Christian, doesn't mean being Christian is a liability. Only atheist liberals think being religious is a weakness to be used against conservatives. And feel free to argue that liberals are Christian too. Facts show that there are a higher majority of conservative Christians than Liberals that claim to be Christian.

So, now that you have diverted from the topic, feel free to either go on your merry (I did not say gay) way or return to the topic. Your choice.

Here's my response:Will this GOP embaressment ever stop?
Did everyone realize the person who started this post spelled embarrassment incorrectly. That's a pretty clever way to ask a question and answer it at the same time.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212165)
Here's my response:Will this GOP embaressment ever stop?
Did everyone realize the person who started this post spelled embarrassment incorrectly. That's a pretty clever way to ask a question and answer it at the same time.

Is proper spelling a prerequisite to posting on here? If so, I will never be able to participate.

To answer the original question, spelled correctly or not, I would suggest that the GOP will no longer be embarrassed when Americans submit themselves to the authority of the Constitution and quit trying to change it to reflect European failed values and policies. Meaning, when liberals abandon socialism and learn to respect American patriotism and love America for what it stands for, not what it can do for them. The GOP can stop being embarrassed of the Democrat party when it becomes less anti-American and more self-reliant and willing to sacrifice as much as they are willing to sacrifice the efforts of others. Yes, the GOP is embarrassed of the unembarrassed liberals that won't make the effort to make this a great country again.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203869)
My gosh, how can anyone actually wear a Trump or Cruz tshirt anywhere without feeling like a blustering fool. I guess i shouldnt be surprised as the GOP left no stone unturned with Obama, the nationality, the birth certificate, his religion, twking your guns ... Well welcome to the nightmare your party started with personal attacks and the lack of respect for the office of the presidency. The fight for your nomination finally did it, the wives, the affairs ... If it was not so pathetic I would sit back and just enjoy it. But instead of being ashamed you simply attack the president for not coming back to Washington for a terrorist attack in Europe. i guess Reagan not even stopping his vacation when Marines were killed in Beruit didnt count.

Party on Trump and Cruz supporters.

For starters, embarrassment is incorrectly spelled.

I think the question is aimed at the GOP to answer about the GOP.

I'm not in any party so maybe I'm not supposed to contribute but here goes: I think there are too many GOP members with opposing viewpoints including racism and gay rights. Other wise how could you explain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_..._United_States
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans.

I also think the word conservative is misleading.

holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion
is the meaning outside of politics

but a political conservative believes
An aversion to rapid change; a belief that tradition and prevailing social norms often contain within them handed down wisdom; and mistrust of attempts to remake society so that it conforms to an abstract account of what would be just or efficient.
A desire to preserve the political philosophy and rules of government articulated in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, through cultural norms.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state.
An embrace of free-market capitalism, and a belief in the legitimacy of market outcomes.
A belief that America is an exceptional nation, a shining city on a hill, whose rightful role is leader of the free world.
A belief that America should export its brand of democracy through force of arms.
The conviction that government should undertake, on behalf of the American polity, grand projects that advance our "national greatness" and ennoble our characters.
An embrace of localism, community and family ties, human scale, and a responsibility to the future.
A belief that America shouldn't intervene in the affairs of other nations except to defend ourselves from aggression and enforce contracts and treaties.
A desire to return to the way things once were.
Affinity for, identification with, or embrace of Red America's various cultural cues. (For example, gun ownership, a preference for single-family homes oriented around highways rather than urban enclaves organized around public transit, embrace of country music, disdain for arugula and fancy mustard, etc.)
Disdain for American liberalism, multiculturalism, identity politics, affirmative action, welfare, European-style social policies, and the left and its ideas generally.
A desire to be left alone by government, often coupled with a belief that being left alone is a natural right.
A principled belief in federalism.
The belief that taxes should be lower and government smaller.
The belief that the national debt and deficits put America in peril.
The belief that whenever possible, government budgets should be balanced.
Consciousness of the fallibility of man, and an awareness of the value of skepticism, doubt and humility.
Realism in foreign policy.
Non-interventionism in foreign policy.
What Americans Mean When They Say They're Conservative - The Atlantic

If you read the post you will see how different Republicans believe in different principles.

So what embarrases one party member would be source of pride to another. Would you agree?

Guest 04-17-2016 10:25 AM

Yes, I Will
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1203932)
Again no response of the original question. I am not ashamed of either democratic candidates, neither of them are out there acting like Cruz or Trump.

Are you able to answer the question?

I'll answer your question.

Hillary is an absolute embarrassment to this country, period. Anyone who would lie to an entire country and most especially call a grieving mother and the other families that lost loved ones in Benghazi liars, is beyond embarrassment. As for her emails...what was she doing in one of the highest offices if she could not recognize what should or should not be classified material? I was just an employee who handled such documents in my job and I knew. She is just evil. She has zero integrity, thinks rules don't apply to her, and is just interested in being the first woman President in history. She and Obama care nothing for the people. They only care for their own legacies.

As for Bernie, he's just a lost hippie who totally believes what he's trying to sell. I think he's listened to the likes of George Soros for way too long, and is his puppet. The one thing going for him...he's definitely more likeable than Hillary.

For me, Cruz is on about the same level as Hillary. He has yet to have an original thought. Trump just tells it like it is without all the political b.s. sugarcoating. He's right on.

Do you see Hillary spending her own money? Of course not; she claims she's been clawing her way into money after leaving the WH "dead broke". (We should all be so broke!) Just one more lie to add to her repertoire.

With all the hired "protesters" from your side, we really are a laughing stock all around the world. You don't see that "stuff" taking place from the other side.

We talk about 'anyone can become President' in this country. Ha! Only if the powers that be 'approve', just not your everyday voter. We tell other countries about our wonderful way of electing our leaders by THE PEOPLE. Maybe we should change that rhetoric to say BY ONLY CERTAIN APPROVED PEOPLE.

We, as a country, need to wake up before it is too late. You have one polished politician in there now and you see how far we have fallen. I, for one, would like to see someone in there who is not beholden to the lobbyists and their monies. I would like to be able to see more people employed here and not in the other countries. I would like to see someone who will stand up for Americans and take care of Americans instead of trying to buy the friendships of every other country in the world, most especially those who hate our guts.

We see all these ads about the poor little starving children in third world countries. What about the ones starving right here in our own country or is that not 'politically correct'. Politically correct is killing us all.

You know, we used to be a country of the majority rule. No more. Now if just ONE person voices an objection to whatever, then everyone else has to suck it up and conform. NO! Everyone has the RIGHT to be 'offended'; they also have the RIGHT to get over it! Lots of things 'offend' me, but I'm probably the only one who gives a you-know-what. So? I can promise you, you will not see me running to the nearest lawyer just as fast as I can get there to make an issue of it.

We need to get back to "OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE" before it's too late. I just hope and pray that it already isn't.

Guest 04-17-2016 10:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212190)
For starters, embarrassment is incorrectly spelled.

I think the question is aimed at the GOP to answer about the GOP.

I'm not in any party so maybe I'm not supposed to contribute but here goes: I think there are too many GOP members with opposing viewpoints including racism and gay rights. Other wise how could you explain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_..._United_States
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans.

I also think the word conservative is misleading.

holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion
is the meaning outside of politics

but a political conservative believes
An aversion to rapid change; a belief that tradition and prevailing social norms often contain within them handed down wisdom; and mistrust of attempts to remake society so that it conforms to an abstract account of what would be just or efficient.
A desire to preserve the political philosophy and rules of government articulated in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, through cultural norms.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state.
An embrace of free-market capitalism, and a belief in the legitimacy of market outcomes.
A belief that America is an exceptional nation, a shining city on a hill, whose rightful role is leader of the free world.
A belief that America should export its brand of democracy through force of arms.

The conviction that government should undertake, on behalf of the American polity, grand projects that advance our "national greatness" and ennoble our characters.
An embrace of localism, community and family ties, human scale, and a responsibility to the future.
A belief that America shouldn't intervene in the affairs of other nations except to defend ourselves from aggression and enforce contracts and treaties.
A desire to return to the way things once were.
Affinity for, identification with, or embrace of Red America's various cultural cues. (For example, gun ownership, a preference for single-family homes oriented around highways rather than urban enclaves organized around public transit, embrace of country music, disdain for arugula and fancy mustard, etc.)
Disdain for American liberalism, multiculturalism, identity politics, affirmative action, welfare, European-style social policies, and the left and its ideas generally.
A desire to be left alone by government, often coupled with a belief that being left alone is a natural right.
A principled belief in federalism.
The belief that taxes should be lower and government smaller.
The belief that the national debt and deficits put America in peril.
The belief that whenever possible, government budgets should be balanced.
Consciousness of the fallibility of man, and an awareness of the value of skepticism, doubt and humility.
Realism in foreign policy.
Non-interventionism in foreign policy.
What Americans Mean When They Say They're Conservative - The Atlantic

If you read the post you will see how different Republicans believe in different principles.

So what embarrases one party member would be source of pride to another. Would you agree?

How can you build empire forcibly and not interfere wt other nations...at the same time?

Boy, you got THAT right, multiculturalism, is, if it isn't too late, going to be the end of us.

Guest 04-17-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213791)
How can you build empire forcibly and not interfere wt other nations...at the same time?

Boy, you got THAT right, multiculturalism, is, if it isn't too late, going to be the end of us.

The melting pot dooms day predictors are not new in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot

Guest 04-17-2016 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213797)
The melting pot dooms day predictors are not new in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot

OK...answer me this: We ALL melted together...The Irish, the Italians, Polish, Catholics, Jews, all except ONE. Can you name that one? That one group that never quite made it. Has always been an outsider. Always located at the bottom of society. Have you guessed yet?

Now, tell me why. Why did ALL the rest successfully "melt in"? Indians and Pakistanis are "black", why do they succeed and the others don't? It's obviously not only skin color.

Melting in is fine until a critical level is reached. That level has been reached. More minorities are registering for school than white children. Now we're being diluted. Our culture, the culture that brought you the United Stated we have, will be replaced with a culture hat didn't create the United Stated. That was incapable of creating the United States.

The ones worrying about multiculturalism, they will be proven right. They were early.

Guest 04-17-2016 11:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1213779)
I'll answer your question.

Hillary is an absolute embarrassment to this country, period. Anyone who would lie to an entire country and most especially call a grieving mother and the other families that lost loved ones in Benghazi liars, is beyond embarrassment. As for her emails...what was she doing in one of the highest offices if she could not recognize what should or should not be classified material? I was just an employee who handled such documents in my job and I knew. She is just evil. She has zero integrity, thinks rules don't apply to her, and is just interested in being the first woman President in history. She and Obama care nothing for the people. They only care for their own legacies.

As for Bernie, he's just a lost hippie who totally believes what he's trying to sell. I think he's listened to the likes of George Soros for way too long, and is his puppet. The one thing going for him...he's definitely more likeable than Hillary.

For me, Cruz is on about the same level as Hillary. He has yet to have an original thought. Trump just tells it like it is without all the political b.s. sugarcoating. He's right on.

Do you see Hillary spending her own money? Of course not; she claims she's been clawing her way into money after leaving the WH "dead broke". (We should all be so broke!) Just one more lie to add to her repertoire.

With all the hired "protesters" from your side, we really are a laughing stock all around the world. You don't see that "stuff" taking place from the other side.

We talk about 'anyone can become President' in this country. Ha! Only if the powers that be 'approve', just not your everyday voter. We tell other countries about our wonderful way of electing our leaders by THE PEOPLE. Maybe we should change that rhetoric to say BY ONLY CERTAIN APPROVED PEOPLE.

We, as a country, need to wake up before it is too late. You have one polished politician in there now and you see how far we have fallen. I, for one, would like to see someone in there who is not beholden to the lobbyists and their monies. I would like to be able to see more people employed here and not in the other countries. I would like to see someone who will stand up for Americans and take care of Americans instead of trying to buy the friendships of every other country in the world, most especially those who hate our guts.

We see all these ads about the poor little starving children in third world countries. What about the ones starving right here in our own country or is that not 'politically correct'. Politically correct is killing us all.

You know, we used to be a country of the majority rule. No more. Now if just ONE person voices an objection to whatever, then everyone else has to suck it up and conform. NO! Everyone has the RIGHT to be 'offended'; they also have the RIGHT to get over it! Lots of things 'offend' me, but I'm probably the only one who gives a you-know-what. So? I can promise you, you will not see me running to the nearest lawyer just as fast as I can get there to make an issue of it.

We need to get back to "OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE" before it's too late. I just hope and pray that it already isn't.

Stop voting for Ds and Rs, vote Libertarian.


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