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jimjamuser 09-29-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2261178)
You’re right but Al Gore already fixed Global Warming, right?

Al Gore did HIS part. He warned America way back then, but the gas and oil lobby outspent him, allowing the upper 5% to STAY RICH. Allowing Infernal Combustion engines to spew pollutants out and cause the record HEAT WORLDWIDE - that we all have felt this summer and will feel increasing every summer from today for the foreseeable future. So, the world disregarded VP Gore at their peril, the rich are richer, and we are all HOTTER and more polluted because of it!!!!!!
......So people who disregarded Mr. Gore will also NOT read today's issue of the NY Times - which stated that the deadly disease Dengue Fever has moved northward to Florida in the US and France in Europe. Also, those same people will disregard the same article where they say that "this summer Malaria has spread to Fl., Tx., and even Maryland!!!!!!

sounding 09-29-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261260)
That statement, "I bring data" needs to be amended to "bringing erroneous data". Thank you!

I appreciate all the alarmism so many bring to these conversions, because it just increases the desire of others to see the data which the media refuses to report. Every time I get attacked, more people sign up for the monthly notifications for Weather Club meetings, which includes talks not only at the Weather Club but also to other clubs (both in and outside the Villages - and even as far out as Gainesville). Just send an email to this address to be included in monthly notifications ... info@theweatherclubvillages.com

sounding 09-29-2023 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261262)
North Pole ice is gone now. They are going to drill for lithium for batteries there.

Now you know why Trump wanted to buy Greenland ... lithium and much more. Also, thanks to recent warming and less polar ice, the polar bears are reaching record numbers because it's now easier for them to find lunch - seals. There are now too many polar bears and you can hunt them for $50,000 each ... but they only allow about 700 harvestings a year ... Nunavut Territory Polar Bear Hunting - Worldwide Trophy Adventures

jimjamuser 09-29-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261241)
YOUR feelings are subjective. DATA is objective. Government satellite temperature data clearly show a "slight" 9-year cooling trend - not warming. Don't worry - it's only data.

Not MY feelings. I said that it was in today's edition of The NY Times. Just google it - it is FREE to everyone!

sounding 09-29-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261291)
Not MY feelings. I said that it was in today's edition of The NY Times. Just google it - it is FREE to everyone!

I don't follow the narrative ... I follow the data. Another example ... global hurricanes have been decreasing for over 30 years -- when's the last time the NYT reported that? CO2 must be under-performing.

Battlebasset 09-29-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2260926)
Take that Farmer's Almanac into your bathroom and start tearing out the pages because so far this year (worldwide) it has been the HOTTEST on record. And scientists are saying that it will get hotter each year for at least the next 8 years. The only way to stop that is for more people in the US and the world to buy more Electric cars. Europe and even China are doing their part by buying more E-vehicles. And before anyone says otherwise, science is building better batteries and countries are building more charging centers as we speak / write!

I'll wait until those better batteries a built, thank you very much, along with charging stations. My golf cart is electric, but it also comes home every night for charging.

Stu from NYC 09-29-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261286)
Al Gore did HIS part. He warned America way back then, but the gas and oil lobby outspent him, allowing the upper 5% to STAY RICH. Allowing Infernal Combustion engines to spew pollutants out and cause the record HEAT WORLDWIDE - that we all have felt this summer and will feel increasing every summer from today for the foreseeable future. So, the world disregarded VP Gore at their peril, the rich are richer, and we are all HOTTER and more polluted because of it!!!!!!
......So people who disregarded Mr. Gore will also NOT read today's issue of the NY Times - which stated that the deadly disease Dengue Fever has moved northward to Florida in the US and France in Europe. Also, those same people will disregard the same article where they say that "this summer Malaria has spread to Fl., Tx., and even Maryland!!!!!!

Thanks for warning us that internal combustion engines are destroying our planet. Since you do not own EV makes me wonder why it is ok for you to consumer gasoline just not the rest of us.

Bwanajim 09-29-2023 02:49 PM

But, but , but.
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2260578)
The Farmer's Almanac is forecasting a colder and snowier winter than average for the 23/24 winter season. This is no surprise as we are in a 9-year cooling trend, which is within a 6,000 year Milankovitch cooling trend, which is within our current 2.5 million year old Pleistocene Ice Age. The Pleistocene Ice Age is the subject of a talk on Sep 29 at 4 PM at Colony Cottage - for the Philosophy Club. Dress warm.

But, but, but, everyone said there was global warming! Lol

JMintzer 09-29-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261259)
1.4 degrees F is enough to cause the world's oceans to rise. And whatever the per year rise actually is, all scientists know that this summer set the RECORD for HEAT worldwide. And everyone here in TV Land who is honest and has been here for many years will tell you how HOT this summer has been.

"How Hot Was It"?

(with apologies to Johnny Carson...)

https://media2.giphy.com/media/pGXqF7A9R4C3u/giphy.gif

JMintzer 09-29-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261270)
Go full electric. If worried about charging stations on a long trip, keep a 2nd gas vehicle for about 2 years until more charging stations are built. In the US people are buying all-electric vehicles at a rate of 6% of new car sales. It is about double in Europe. This is because the Europeans know that Saudi Arabia and Russia have gotten together to keep the price of gasoline high.

Remind me again, what brand of EV do you drive?

JMintzer 09-29-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261262)
North Pole ice is gone now. They are going to drill for lithium for batteries there.

You "drill" for lithium?

Keefelane66 09-29-2023 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2261334)
You "drill" for lithium?

“ Lithium brine recovery is typically a straightforward but lengthy process that can take anywhere from several months to a few years to complete. Drilling is required to access the underground salar brine deposits, and the brine is then pumped to the surface and distributed to evaporation ponds.”

JMintzer 09-29-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2261337)
“ Lithium brine recovery is typically a straightforward but lengthy process that can take anywhere from several months to a few years to complete. Drilling is required to access the underground salar brine deposits, and the brine is then pumped to the surface and distributed to evaporation ponds.”

Well slap my @ss and call me Charlie... I learned something new today!

I always thought it was open air mined...

JMintzer 09-29-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261262)
North Pole ice is gone now. They are going to drill for lithium for batteries there.

Still 1.88 million square miles of ice per the Google Machine...

jimjamuser 09-29-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261290)
Now you know why Trump wanted to buy Greenland ... lithium and much more. Also, thanks to recent warming and less polar ice, the polar bears are reaching record numbers because it's now easier for them to find lunch - seals. There are now too many polar bears and you can hunt them for $50,000 each ... but they only allow about 700 harvestings a year ... Nunavut Territory Polar Bear Hunting - Worldwide Trophy Adventures

The habitat of the Polar bear (floating ice) is down 33% in the Arctic over the past 20 years. The RATE of sea ice LOSS is accelerating. The Arctic will be 4 degrees C warmer in the next year. In 2050 RAIN will be falling instead of SNOW for many MONTHS. Polar bear and oil worker conflicts are increasing as bears are driven onto LAND. Currently, polar bears are listed as THREATENED. Soon they will be reevaluated for possible ENDANGERED STATUS.

sounding 09-29-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261349)
The habitat of the Polar bear (floating ice) is down 33% in the Arctic over the past 20 years. The RATE of sea ice LOSS is accelerating. The Arctic will be 4 degrees C warmer in the next year. In 2050 RAIN will be falling instead of SNOW for many MONTHS. Polar bear and oil worker conflicts are increasing as bears are driven onto LAND. Currently, polar bears are listed as THREATENED. Soon they will be reevaluated for possible ENDANGERED STATUS.

Good for you believing polar bears are going extinct ... and that way others will be able get their trophy hunts. You still don't get it do you ... there are so many bears that they allow up to 700 harvests of bears a year ... Nunavut Territory Polar Bear Hunting - Worldwide Trophy Adventures I feel sorry for all those who actually donate money to save the bears, when there is no problem at all. Guess who's pockets all those donations go to.

Stu from NYC 09-29-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261363)
Good for you believing polar bears are going extinct ... and that way others will be able get their trophy hunts. You still don't get it do you ... there are so many bears that they allow up to 700 harvests of bears a year ... Nunavut Territory Polar Bear Hunting - Worldwide Trophy Adventures I feel sorry for all those who actually donate money to save the bears, when there is no problem at all. Guess who's pockets all those donations go to.

I was surprised they are allowing hunting due to a large expansion of the herd. Guess we cannot believe what a lot of people have been telling us about the poor starving polar bears.

sounding 09-29-2023 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2261376)
I was surprised they are allowing hunting due to a large expansion of the herd. Guess we cannot believe what a lot of people have been telling us about the poor starving polar bears.

One day our grandchildren will laugh at not only our ignorance of common sense, but of letting a small group of powerful elite fool the world about a non-problem. Ottmar is trying to tell us, but very few are listening ... climate policies are an illusion.

sounding 09-29-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2261376)
I was surprised they are allowing hunting due to a large expansion of the herd. Guess we cannot believe what a lot of people have been telling us about the poor starving polar bears.

The reason there are so many bears is because there is less sea ice - and more opportunity to hunt seals. The bears don't need ice to survive, because their DNA says they were originally Asian brown bears.

fishon 09-30-2023 05:02 AM

Greenland was indeed green and welcoming for the Vikings many years ago.
Today in Alaska, where the ice has receded, they are finding arrowheads and reindeer scat indicating the ice was less than 5,000 years old.
Cycles come and go without the influence of insignificant little people.

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261363)
Good for you believing polar bears are going extinct ... and that way others will be able get their trophy hunts. You still don't get it do you ... there are so many bears that they allow up to 700 harvests of bears a year ... Nunavut Territory Polar Bear Hunting - Worldwide Trophy Adventures I feel sorry for all those who actually donate money to save the bears, when there is no problem at all. Guess who's pockets all those donations go to.

Apparently, the Native Americans in the Arctic area, who likely have not-so-wonderful lives, see a chance to make the big bucks, and to hell with the Polar bear!

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261384)
The reason there are so many bears is because there is less sea ice - and more opportunity to hunt seals. The bears don't need ice to survive, because their DNA says they were originally Asian brown bears.

Nuts, less sea ice means LESS opportunity for the Polar Bear to survive because there will be MORE contact with humans.........boats, oil slicks, and other hazards of civilization. They have "threatened status" now. That really ends ANY POSSIBLE ARGUMENTS.

Keefelane66 09-30-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2261343)
Well slap my @ss and call me Charlie... I learned something new today!

I always thought it was open air mined...

In Africa they strip mine, it depends on how close the surface.

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2261395)
Greenland was indeed green and welcoming for the Vikings many years ago.
Today in Alaska, where the ice has receded, they are finding arrowheads and reindeer scat indicating the ice was less than 5,000 years old.
Cycles come and go without the influence of insignificant little people.

Not true. MAN is the reason for the HOTTER climate worldwide in the LAST 8 years. WE ALL felt the HEAT THIS SUMMER RIGHT HERE in TV Land for anyone that played any sports outdoors. There were practically ZERO Pickleball players in the afternoon on the courts that I saw. Just feel the HEAT here in the afternoon and read about as RECORD HEAT as recorded by scientists. SCIENCE and your own INTUITION are telling you that the world environment is going to s--- in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Causey 09-30-2023 06:59 AM

This is all great entertainment. The best part, is that insignificant humans, arrogantly believe they know what happened in the past and what will happen in the future. All pure arrogance.

sounding 09-30-2023 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261430)
Not true. MAN is the reason for the HOTTER climate worldwide in the LAST 8 years. WE ALL felt the HEAT THIS SUMMER RIGHT HERE in TV Land for anyone that played any sports outdoors. There were practically ZERO Pickleball players in the afternoon on the courts that I saw. Just feel the HEAT here in the afternoon and read about as RECORD HEAT as recorded by scientists. SCIENCE and your own INTUITION are telling you that the world environment is going to s--- in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't like heat, just be glad you didn't live during the dust bowl - when it was much warmer than today - and CO2 was much lower.

sounding 09-30-2023 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Causey (Post 2261432)
This is all great entertainment. The best part, is that insignificant humans, arrogantly believe they know what happened in the past and what will happen in the future. All pure arrogance.

Arrogance is not a crime. Data tampering should be a crime.

Topspinmo 09-30-2023 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2260901)
I've been wondering where you've been hiding.

Nice to see your source of science is the...... farmers almanac?!?!?!? FYI the same publication predictes the summer of 2024 is going to be record hot! I can't wait for you to explain your way out of that one.:icon_bored:


Summer is always record hot somewhere.

Topspinmo 09-30-2023 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261264)
Yes, now I get the picture. We are supposed to disbelieve NASA with hundreds of employees and a million-dollar budget and instead, we should believe ONE guy in TV Land. That makes sense!


Depends on the objective.

Topspinmo 09-30-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261430)
Not true. MAN is the reason for the HOTTER climate worldwide in the LAST 8 years. WE ALL felt the HEAT THIS SUMMER RIGHT HERE in TV Land for anyone that played any sports outdoors. There were practically ZERO Pickleball players in the afternoon on the courts that I saw. Just feel the HEAT here in the afternoon and read about as RECORD HEAT as recorded by scientists. SCIENCE and your own INTUITION are telling you that the world environment is going to s--- in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This summer was no hotter than last summer, maybe few more days in 90’s. If was just as hot when I moved to Florida 9 years ago. The last two winters has been colder and seen lowest temperatures last winter in my area 24 degrees and several nights in upper 20’s.

It’s hot and humid in central Florida in summers it always has been why snowbirds leave.

The world overpopulated and USA being invaded, Which removes more forests. I was born in northern Missouri, nearly all forests and natural wet lands bulldozed to plant corn and soybeans. This also includes all the flyover states. But being they are flyover states not that important. World population and de-forestry the underline problem and that will never be fixed.

Velvet 09-30-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2261171)
Wait a minute ... 2.5 million year old Ice Age? Is the earth that Old? Check your Bible ...

Ah, the Bible is not talking about “human” years…. There are different definition of years used. But that’s another topic.

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Causey (Post 2261432)
This is all great entertainment. The best part, is that insignificant humans, arrogantly believe they know what happened in the past and what will happen in the future. All pure arrogance.

The past, AKA History is pretty well known by experts (Historians). Maybe each and every detail is not known. And as to the future, I have just relayed what scientists predict - that the whole earth will HEAT UP increasingly for the next 8 years at least. And it won't stop HEATING UP until about 70% of worldwide vehicle sales are E-vehicles in order to decrease CO2 leaving the exhaust pipes of IC engines!

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261433)
If you don't like heat, just be glad you didn't live during the dust bowl - when it was much warmer than today - and CO2 was much lower.

So many graphs, so little UNDERSTANDING !

jimjamuser 09-30-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2261494)
Ah, the Bible is not talking about “human” years…. There are different definition of years used. But that’s another topic.

SSSS ------OOOO, a different time scale 1 Bible year equals X number of normal human years????????

JMintzer 09-30-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261421)
Apparently, the Native Americans in the Arctic area, who likely have not-so-wonderful lives, see a chance to make the big bucks, and to hell with the Polar bear!

Tell me you know nothing about wildlife management without telling me you know nothing about wildlife management...

JMintzer 09-30-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261424)
Nuts, less sea ice means LESS opportunity for the Polar Bear to survive because there will be MORE contact with humans.........boats, oil slicks, and other hazards of civilization. They have "threatened status" now. That really ends ANY POSSIBLE ARGUMENTS.

Yes, that is why there are so many more of them...

JMintzer 09-30-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2261427)
In Africa they strip mine, it depends on how close the surface.

That I knew. But I thought that was the only way to mine it...

JMintzer 09-30-2023 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261430)
Not true. MAN is the reason for the HOTTER climate worldwide in the LAST 8 years. WE ALL felt the HEAT THIS SUMMER RIGHT HERE in TV Land for anyone that played any sports outdoors. There were practically ZERO Pickleball players in the afternoon on the courts that I saw. Just feel the HEAT here in the afternoon and read about as RECORD HEAT as recorded by scientists. SCIENCE and your own INTUITION are telling you that the world environment is going to s--- in a handbasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahhh, the Pickleball Conundrum... What unit of measurement does that use?

JMintzer 09-30-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261560)
The past, AKA History is pretty well known by experts (Historians). Maybe each and every detail is not known. And as to the future, I have just relayed what scientists predict - that the whole earth will HEAT UP increasingly for the next 8 years at least. And it won't stop HEATING UP until about 70% of worldwide vehicle sales are E-vehicles in order to decrease CO2 leaving the exhaust pipes of IC engines!

Funny, you still won't answer the question... What EV do you drive?

Stu from NYC 09-30-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2261578)
Funny, you still won't answer the question... What EV do you drive?

Do as I say not as I do. Kind of made famous by Al Gore who thought he can preach all about global warming by having one of the largest carbon footprints in the world.


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