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jimjamuser 10-01-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2261621)
Apparently, Gore isn't the only hypocrite here....

The important thing is NOT what vehicle the world's population drives now (20% of new sales are E-Vehicles) - the important thing is what people will be driving 5 years from now. Some facts : : 80% of NEW power plants being built are RENEWABLE. According to the Head of The International Energy Agency - F. Birol ( @fbirol) by 2030 (6 years away) worldwide fossil fuel use will begin a downward trend. Nuclear electrical generators are coming back due to both need and SAFETY.

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 03:33 PM

Global Warming IS NOT enjoyable. It will cause RECORD Hot temperatures this year and for about 8 more years until people wake up. It is causing many plants and animals to become extinct. Swedish Scientists are storing seeds of endangered plants at near zero degrees C in hidden vaults. Reef corals are 90% dead due to HEAT and high ocean CO2. Many of the Earth's animals and birds are becoming extinct because they can't adapt to the increasing HEAT.
.........The head of the International Energy Agency said that fossil fuels (oil, gas, and coal) will be gone in 20 to 25 years. Fossil Fuels will BEGIN to become less and less starting in 2030. (see @fbirol)

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261835)
Polar bears don't need ice to survive - they need seals - or humans. There is more than enough ice for them. Ice was much lower years ago and the bears did just fine. Ice is now growing - because we are in a 9-year cooling trend - see image. Remember - if it's about the climate and it's by the main stream media - it's fake news.

So many graphs, so little understanding!

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261827)
I little due diligence on your part will show it was the circumpolar "international" community that produced a joined agreement agreement - but the media refuses to tell you. Just like the media refuses to tell you how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year -- because they can't find it.

The Inuit Circumpolar Council (ICC) was founded in 1977. With the impact of Global Warming, Inuit have recorded RAIN lasting into the early winter season, something their warm clothing is NOT adapted to. Climate Change is impacting the Inuit way of life. As such, many Inuit Elders and hunters are concerned by accelerated changes to the land, water, weather system, and WILDLIFE. They are exploring things outside of the range observed in oral Histories............(All from the Google machine)

fdpaq0580 10-01-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261781)
You are allowed to believe the media -- I prefer to believe the data -- which says you too can hunt polar bears for about $50,000 per harvest. Would you like to split the cost for a hunt? Guns or bows are allowed ... Canadian Arctic Polar Bear Hunt - Ameri-Cana Expeditions

Tazers. I wouldn't want to actually kill the bear, but I would like a chance to get away.

fdpaq0580 10-01-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2261772)
A very frequent poster on here just might disagree with you.

Blips! The more the merrier.

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261827)
I little due diligence on your part will show it was the circumpolar "international" community that produced a joined agreement agreement - but the media refuses to tell you. Just like the media refuses to tell you how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year -- because they can't find it.

In 2021 increased use of coal drove up global CO2 emissions by over 2 billion tons - the largest ever annual rise. Humans emit around 40 billion tons / year. CO2 is now more than 50 % higher than pre-industrial revolution levels. Scientists say that if CO2 doubles, it could raise the Average Global Temperature by 2.5 degrees C. We are already increasing the amount of energy that BOUNCES back to Earth because of the Greenhouse Effect, which is causing Global Warming with its many DESTRUCTIVE impacts.
........All facts from Scientific Articles located by Google.

sounding 10-01-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261881)
The Inuit Circumpolar Council (ICC) was founded in 1977. With the impact of Global Warming, Inuit have recorded RAIN lasting into the early winter season, something their warm clothing is NOT adapted to. Climate Change is impacting the Inuit way of life. As such, many Inuit Elders and hunters are concerned by accelerated changes to the land, water, weather system, and WILDLIFE. They are exploring things outside of the range observed in oral Histories............(All from the Google machine)

Beautiful summary. And if you go back even further into the oral histories, you'll find that there was much less ice prior to the Little Ice Age. The Inuits didn't move to the land of ice & snow because they liked it. They originally moved there when it was warmer - when trees were growing.

Decadeofdave 10-01-2023 05:17 PM

This has been the coolest summer in 8 years in Ohio.
Only 2-90 degree days. July 14th golfed with jackets, 59 degree high. air conditioning is average -25 to -40 hours per month vs 2022. Heating up in June and July by + 10 to 15 hrs per month vs 2022. very odd, no one outside the area talks about this.

sounding 10-01-2023 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2261901)
This has been the coolest summer in 8 years in Ohio.
Only 2-90 degree days. July 14th golfed with jackets, 59 degree high. air conditioning is average -25 to -40 hours per month vs 2022. Heating up in June and July by + 10 to 15 hrs per month vs 2022. very odd, no one outside the area talks about this.

You bet Ohio was cool - and the surrounding region - was below normal this summer (see atch image). The media will not publish this information - which is official NOAA data available on the Internet. At the Weather Club we talk about what the media refuses to talk about - the data versus the narrative. The Villages Weather Club

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261835)
Polar bears don't need ice to survive - they need seals - or humans. There is more than enough ice for them. Ice was much lower years ago and the bears did just fine. Ice is now growing - because we are in a 9-year cooling trend - see image. Remember - if it's about the climate and it's by the main stream media - it's fake news.

Not sure where that erroneous information about Polar Bears is coming from, BUT.....Reuters reports that Polar Bears will begin to disappear in about 2050 where the sea ice is melting most rapidly. Slate.com says that a study predicts polar Bear EXTINCTION by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions remain at the current trajectory.

sounding 10-01-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261904)
Not sure where that erroneous information about Polar Bears is coming from, BUT.....Reuters reports that Polar Bears will begin to disappear in about 2050 where the sea ice is melting most rapidly. Slate.com says that a study predicts polar Bear EXTINCTION by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions remain at the current trajectory.

The answer is simple - money & power. Your references are in the business in making money. Participating in climate alarmism is very profitable (aka. Al Gore). Your best information comes from independent authorities like: polarbearscience.com

jimjamuser 10-01-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261903)
You bet Ohio was cool - and the surrounding region - was below normal this summer (see atch image). The media will not publish this information - which is official NOAA data available on the Internet. At the Weather Club we talk about what the media refuses to talk about - the data versus the narrative. The Villages Weather Club

That map proves my points perfectly. MOST of the US shows HIGHER than NORMAL temperatures on THAT MAP. In fact, the summer of 2023 set a RECORD for the HIGHEST temperatures ever worldwide. The Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean waters around Florida set all-time high records. The oceans rose the most ever worldwide.
..........People who have lived over 10 years in Fl know that this summer was KILLER HOT. Very few people played ANY SPORTS outside in the afternoon here this summer. Personally, I played some sports outside this summer, but NEVER again. Next summer will find me on an exercise mat INDOORS at some group class (like YOGA maybe). The next 8 years are predicted to keep being increasingly HOT, RECORD-SETTING HOT.
.......The Head of the International Energy Agency was a LITTLE more hopeful when he said that after 2030, fossil fuel usage will begin to curve downward BECAUSE of RENEWABLES and nuclear energy will make a comeback due to need and increased SAFETY!

sounding 10-01-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261910)
That map proves my points perfectly. MOST of the US shows HIGHER than NORMAL temperatures on THAT MAP. In fact, the summer of 2023 set a RECORD for the HIGHEST temperatures ever worldwide. The Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean waters around Florida set all-time high records. The oceans rose the most ever worldwide.
..........People who have lived over 10 years in Fl know that this summer was KILLER HOT. Very few people played ANY SPORTS outside in the afternoon here this summer. Personally, I played some sports outside this summer, but NEVER again. Next summer will find me on an exercise mat INDOORS at some group class (like YOGA maybe). The next 8 years are predicted to keep being increasingly HOT, RECORD-SETTING HOT.
.......The Head of the International Energy Agency was a LITTLE more hopeful when he said that after 2030, fossil fuel usage will begin to curve downward BECAUSE of RENEWABLES and nuclear energy will make a comeback due to need and increased SAFETY!

So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal? Too much CO2? Don't forget, we are still in a 9-year cooling trend - and that map was just Jun-Jul-Aug data.

fdpaq0580 10-01-2023 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261912)
So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal? Too much CO2? Don't forget, we are still in a 9-year cooling trend - and that map was just Jun-Jul-Aug data.

OK. So why was most of the US out of "normal" on your chart warmer than cooler? Who are you trying to fool by continually confusing weather anomalies with climate stats? Why focus on Ohio when it would be more honest to look at the entirety of the US including Alaska and Hawaii. Better yet, look at the entire planet, not one or a few cherry picked locations or weather anomalies to try to support a false narrative.

sounding 10-01-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2261929)
OK. So why was most of the US out of "normal" on your chart warmer than cooler? Who are you trying to fool by continually confusing weather anomalies with climate stats?

I repeat ... So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal?

MorTech 10-01-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzay (Post 2260858)
Beats talking about Politics !

The political terrorists have made the earth's climate political.

We were in a 14 year cooling trend which is now ending since 2021. See Solar Cycle 25.

Solar cycle 25 - Wikipedia

Two Bills 10-02-2023 02:09 AM

The claim that the Polar Bear population has grown by 400% has been pretty much been shown as not true.
Polar Bear population has risen in some areas, and fallen in others, but overall the population numbers are relatively static.
The Polar Ice is important for Seals and Polar Bears.
Seals give birth on the winter ice, and the bears need the ice to hunt the seals.
Without substantial ice flow, the bears cannot get to their main food source.
Both species need ice to thrive.
No doubt they will adapt over time, if the amount of ice reduces dramatically, but in the short term it will be a major problem.
Emperor Penguins have also been in trouble with ice melting prematurely, losing many young from drowning before the chicks completed their molt.

dewilson58 10-02-2023 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2261804)
Seems warmer today.

Seems cooler today.

sounding 10-02-2023 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2261936)
The claim that the Polar Bear population has grown by 400% has been pretty much been shown as not true.
Polar Bear population has risen in some areas, and fallen in others, but overall the population numbers are relatively static.
The Polar Ice is important for Seals and Polar Bears.
Seals give birth on the winter ice, and the bears need the ice to hunt the seals.
Without substantial ice flow, the bears cannot get to their main food source.
Both species need ice to thrive.
No doubt they will adapt over time, if the amount of ice reduces dramatically, but in the short term it will be a major problem.
Emperor Penguins have also been in trouble with ice melting prematurely, losing many young from drowning before the chicks completed their molt.

Polar bears, like humans, can adapt ...New evidence that polar bears survived 1,600 years of ice-free summers in the early Holocene | polarbearscience

Two Bills 10-02-2023 06:18 AM

Warmer in UK over weekend, cooler today (64f) but warm for this time of year.
Five more degrees higher will be classed as heatwave, with warnings to cover up, avoid dehydrating, etc.etc.due to you know what! :icon_wink:

Two Bills 10-02-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2261964)

Polar bears may have adapted and survived in those times.
But.
They they had no competition from human development, or population, unlike today's environment.
Totally different situation today. Until animals carry guns, they cannot win!

sounding 10-02-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2262082)
Polar bears may have adapted and survived in those times.
But.
They they had no competition from human development, or population, unlike today's environment.
Totally different situation today. Until animals carry guns, they cannot win!

Global warming and CO2 are helping polar bears to expand. Just look at the growing trophy hunting industry. Does that sound like they're endangered? Arctic sea life is also expanding - because more sunlight is getting into the sea (due to less ice) to grow more photo-plankton and the rest of the food chain - including fish and seals. Good grief .... climate alarmism is running amuck these days.

JMintzer 10-02-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261904)
Not sure where that erroneous information about Polar Bears is coming from, BUT.....Reuters reports that Polar Bears will begin to disappear in about 2050 where the sea ice is melting most rapidly. Slate.com says that a study predicts polar Bear EXTINCTION by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions remain at the current trajectory.

They were predicting the same nonsense 20-30 years ago. But now, there are more than 4Xs the # of Polar Bears than there were back then...

Care to explain that FACT?

Stu from NYC 10-02-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2262105)
They were predicting the same nonsense 20-30 years ago. But now, there are more than 4Xs the # of Polar Bears than there were back then...

Care to explain that FACT?

Polar bears got together and mandated larger families? A friend told me to write this.

Pugchief 10-02-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261811)
.........Let me ask this question - why RECENTLY are large groups of illegal migrants moving northward into the US? It is because the RECENT HEAT has dried up their crops and made city life in South America oppressively HOT.

LOL, No, it's because of crime and lack of jobs in their home country coupled with non-enforcement of current US immigration laws and sanctuary cities offering free food, housing, medical and education.

Not even Greta Thunberg would believe your claims.

Two Bills 10-02-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2262084)
Global warming and CO2 are helping polar bears to expand. Just look at the growing trophy hunting industry. Does that sound like they're endangered? Arctic sea life is also expanding - because more sunlight is getting into the sea (due to less ice) to grow more photo-plankton and the rest of the food chain - including fish and seals. Good grief .... climate alarmism is running amuck these days.

I never said endangered.
I said their numbers are basically static, and certainly not grown by the 400% you claim.
Fact is, the polar ice is forming later than usual, is not as thick, therefore making it harder for the bears to hunt their seal prey, and main diet.
I leave the hysterics to you.

sounding 10-02-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2262117)
I never said endangered.
I said their numbers are basically static, and certainly not grown by the 400% you claim.
Fact is, the polar ice is forming later than usual, is not as thick, therefore making it harder for the bears to hunt their seal prey, and main diet.
I leave the hysterics to you.

"Harder" is subjective. Where's the "data" of the bear depopulation?

Topspinmo 10-02-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2261017)
ha ha The Farmers' Almanac. I get my weather forecasts off the National Enquirer.


Why not they’re guessing just like every body else.

JMintzer 10-02-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2262117)
I never said endangered.
I said their numbers are basically static, and certainly not grown by the 400% you claim.
Fact is, the polar ice is forming later than usual, is not as thick, therefore making it harder for the bears to hunt their seal prey, and main diet.
I leave the hysterics to you.

Last I checked, Quadrupled = 400%...

"The estimated polar bear population has quadrupled since 1950, rising from 10,000 bears in 1950 to 39,000 bears today."

Climate at a Glance: Polar Bears

They are certainly not "static"...

Stu from NYC 10-02-2023 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2262125)
Why not they’re guessing just like every body else.

Which farmers almanac are we talking about? Last I heard there was a plethora of them.

sounding 10-02-2023 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2262164)
Which farmers almanac are we talking about? Last I heard there was a plethora of them.

Forecast = Above normal snow and Below normal cold ... Winter Weather Forecast 2023-2024 | The Old Farmer's Almanac

golfing eagles 10-05-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2261615)
I’ve been to The Creationism Museum it is absolutely proven by bible genealogy the earth is only 6,000 years old you might take that to the bank.

I think there are some trees that are older than that. Certainly many of the coral reefs that JJ states are bleached. The biblical city of Jericho dates back 8 or 9,000 years. Here's something that is more realistic to bank on-----add 6 zeros to the 6,000 and take 75% of it

Byte1 10-06-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2261135)
Where do people come up with this crap? When I first started using the Internet in the 1980s, it was available only to government (.gov), military (.mil), education (.edu), and computer companies (.com). What Al Gore did was act as a patron to encourage opening it up to be the incredibly successful utility that is now available to all.

But, don’t let facts get in the way of your agenda.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." :posting: :1rotfl:

asianthree 10-07-2023 07:43 AM

Polar Bears are multiplying because

For $19. A month you can save a polar bears family, and with your contributions you get this adorable blanket…..:oops:

Byte1 10-07-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261560)
The past, AKA History is pretty well known by experts (Historians). Maybe each and every detail is not known. And as to the future, I have just relayed what scientists predict - that the whole earth will HEAT UP increasingly for the next 8 years at least. And it won't stop HEATING UP until about 70% of worldwide vehicle sales are E-vehicles in order to decrease CO2 leaving the exhaust pipes of IC engines!

And some "predict" the end of the world in five years. Sorry, too late to fix it so you might as well enjoy the heat. I am.
Remember, CO2 is your friend.

Byte1 10-07-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2261825)
He also completely ignores the increased water vapor in the atmosphere from the underwater volcano eruptions, which cause MORE heat buildup than CO2... Not to mention the other massive volcano eruptions that spew more CO2 into the atmosphere than man does...

These must be "man made/caused" volcanoes. I am sure that if we all pitch in a throw(I mean invest) a minute trillion bucks into a study, we can stop all volcano eruptions. I doubt it will stop climate change, but it will look real good and enable the creation of more millionaires/billionaires.

Byte1 10-07-2023 05:05 PM

Record highs in the summer is caused by "global warming" and record lows in the winter is also caused by "global warming." Thank goodness for global warming so that we will have "climate change." C'mon folks, if we all just pitch in and skip a few games of golf and a few ribeyes every week, we can subsidize a bunch of poor scientists while they study how climate change effects the sexual habits of field mice.

sounding 10-07-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2261560)
The past, AKA History is pretty well known by experts (Historians). Maybe each and every detail is not known. And as to the future, I have just relayed what scientists predict - that the whole earth will HEAT UP increasingly for the next 8 years at least. And it won't stop HEATING UP until about 70% of worldwide vehicle sales are E-vehicles in order to decrease CO2 leaving the exhaust pipes of IC engines!

1. Any idiot can claim to be an expert.
2. No one (expert or not) has ever successfully predicted climate change.
3. No one can predict the future - especially experts.

JMintzer 10-07-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2263498)
These must be "man made/caused" volcanoes. I am sure that if we all pitch in a throw(I mean invest) a minute trillion bucks into a study, we can stop all volcano eruptions. I doubt it will stop climate change, but it will look real good and enable the creation of more millionaires/billionaires.

I say we go back to tossing virgins into the volcanos...

Of course, we'd have to look outside TV to find one...:icon_wink:


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