Actually Al Gore was like a Colonial hero (Paul Revere) riding around saying, "The British are Coming". In almost President Gores case he was an EARLY WARNING HERO for what is happening in the last 10 years. Take note that the North Pole and parts of Alaska and Siberia are worming at a rate of 4 times that at our latitudes. That SHOULD BE an early warning system for us. Ask....Why are all the Insurance companies LEAVING Florida. People are coming to Florida , but the insurance companies are leaving. Who is right? Just ask who has access to the most current and accurate information?

Sorry, if you are concerned about all this, 'lets scare everyone' BS. That's your problem.
I really do not understand what all the panic is about.
Of course the climate is changing, it always has, but generations to come will survive, until they don't.
Really not my worry.

Just read what 95% of all Climate Scientists have to say. It can easily be found with a few Google clicks. The problem is that many really don't want to BELIEVE the TRUTH. History is full of disbelievers. Once it was thought that the Earth was flat and disbelievers were purged. There will always be anti-Science disbelievers.

I would take that bet, but I can't live long enough to collect it.

What is SAD to the MAX is that in destroying the planet we are SLOWLY destroying ourselves. Every gasoline golf cart that goes by (some speeding) driven by a smiling, happy individual...........probably has NO IDEA about how their own contribution is negatively affecting humanity and the Earth. Maybe after the next 10 years of increasing Heat and killer HURRICANES, the people in The Villages will finally EQUATE their CO2 emitting vehicles to the SLOW death of the Earth. Coal burning in China does NOT help also. Many Scientist believe that in 10 years we will reach a "TIPPING POINT" from which we can't recover. Why are so many (and so many older Villagers) willing to take that chance??????????

This topic for discussion was suggested by Hank Johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA

The graph on the left is NOT correct. At least in the US where crop yields have decreased recently by about 10% because of years of over-fertilizing and lack of crop rotation. The graph on the right is likely correct - world famine deaths are decreasing. But, what people don't realize is that more people on the Earth are creating more CO2 and methane pollution which is warming the planet. Every animal (including MAN) on EARTH has a HOLDING CAPACITY, which depends on their resources (food etc) within their environment. For man wars and pestilence (diseases) hold the population down after going above an optimum population.
..........Health officials in the US are worried about RSV, Norovirus, and bird flu to name a few. The treat level is high. And the threat level for wars is also high

Leaving FL? Florida is the fastest growing state. One reason is global cooling.

Graph is NOT correct? https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/i...d-and-land-use

Because, imo, they figure their time is short and they don't want anyone rocking their comfy little remaining lifeboat. In other words, pure selfishness. To hell with the future. To hell with everyone else. "I got mine, and I don’t give a flying fig about anyone else."
That's what I think. Sad, isn't it.

Foolishness, I say, I say. (But you know that.)

The INSURANCE COMPANIES are leaving Florida. They are the smart people. The people moving here that are planning on staying year around are in for a surprise when the summer HEAT and HURRICANES wears on them.

The graph that can be clicked on is showing what I have been SAYING. Notice that after 2005 the cereal YIELD begins to LAG the cereal production. Thanks for illustrating my comments so well.

Love it! 👍👍👍

Yes SAD AND IT SHOWS A willingness of an older generation to selfishly NOT consider the lives of the generations behind them. That is why ANY government should put TERM LIMITS on their representatives. Otherwise, the ancient older generation takes control and is MORE likely to start conflicts. It is said that the YOUNGER generation fights the wars that the OLDER generation starts.

Old protest song had the line, "you're old enough to kill, but not for voting". A reality check for many at the time.
As for the future, in my opinion, each generation has a responsibility to to protect and prepare for the next, and future, generations of our species. Paving a better path to the future means looking ahead, dealing with past mistakes, cleaning up our messes and leaving a better, cleaner, safer, more habitable and desirable planet than we inherited. Every generation is supposed to be smarter and more forward thinking. Not everyone agrees, apparently.

Remember when they told us to get our vaccines because of science? Yeah that turned out well.

I don't think so.
 

Let's see, Plymouth Rock sits on the edge of the sea. Over 400 years and still above water.
https://i.imgur.com/fiAB2f3.jpeg

If overpopulation changes the environment, obviously, the only solution is a catastrophe that wipes out half of humanity, right? Waitaminit ... so the solution to surviving "Climate Change" is suicide?

Or here's another idea... we could use our brains to devise solutions.

Like we did when we quit burning coal because we discovered you could get the same energy from a 2' hole in the ground without all the soot -- and got plastics, chemistry, and modern world in the bargain. Or when we decided we didn't like choking on smog so we built cars that quit wasting half the gasoline we put into them, and invented the catalytic converter.

I lived in California when you could barely see across the street some days, and the desert valleys were perpetually full of gray smog. That's all gone now, even with twice the people. And even though we had droughts every year and 50mph Santa Ana winds 50 years ago, LA never burned to the ground. Maybe that's because 50 years ago they had twice the firemen per capita, and the city fathers weren't stupid enough to empty the reservoirs just in time for fire season.

The solution to the population problem is capitalism. When people get wealthy, they start thinking about other forms of entertainment and quit making kids. The only place in the world that has ever actually reduced its "carbon footprint" is AMERICA. We did it with natural gas, while we played around with toy windmills. Because we're rich.

The solution to climate change is technology. Just like when we threw another log on the fire to survive the last ice age, we will use technology to deal with whatever the climate throws at us this time, too, regardless of what caused it.

We just need to quit whining about how we wish things were and start dealing with how things actually are -- like grownups used to do.

Not sure what the point is here. Because all my life I have gotten all the shots that were available in the Air Force or in civilian life. It is only recently that it has become popular to SUSPECT vaccines. And what I SUSPECT is that Russian bots have a lot to do with NOT WANTING Americans to be healthy while finding ways to divide them. When I went to public schools I knew that my classmates were not carrying deadly diseases into my classroom. Today kids do NOT HAVE that guarantee. Talk about devolution!

Scientists are capable of measuring the world's oceans and in the last 10 years they have been rising rapidly. But remember that one inch of rise can doom some island peoples. People in Miami are aware that the oceans are rising. Hotels on Miami Beach have water rising problems.

The solution is what is happening naturally. People in the US and other 1st world countries are having fewer children. The US has a death rate greater than its birth rate. Same for other 1st world countries. In the US people can't make enough money to afford down payments on homes.

First order of business is agree there is a problem. Many refuse to do that.
Second, figure which technologies are needed and which are no longer needed. A little tougher since not all countries have the same level of technology available.
Third, dealing with different cultures and religions. This is tough for many reasons. Blind faith has no reason.

Not as easy as it might seem, with so many groups to satisfy, and so many who will need help, and so many power/control mad .... Best stop here and hope science will be able to show the powers that be that doing the right thing is undeniably in their own best interest.

You can't fix a problem unless you FIRST identify the problem. Pretending that there is no Global Warming will NOT make it go away. Next summers hurricanes will not just go away.

When a drug maker is immune to prosecution -- you know it's not safe.

Yea lets believe the science like we did with covid. You're an Idiot. :22yikes:

Ok here we go again. SOS

Talking to a mirror?

I've had no problems. Wonder what you could be referring to. One person I knew very well did not get vaccinated, but he did get polio.

You know, of course you do, that Plymouth rock has been moved several times in the last few centuries. That photo and the dialog that is used by (dare I say "deniers) as proof the oceans aren't rising has been debunked long ago and many times. What, one wonders, are you playing at? And, do you think anyone will fall for the false implication? Well, maybe I can think of some who might fall for it.

Is that your breakfast request? S--t On (a) Shingle?
Actually, creamed chipped beef on toast sounds great! I'll make that for three Mrs and me tomorrow morning.

Did you pull a Wikipedia on me? Been in the same spot since 1920. I can see when we move there in 2026 we won't be hanging out together. Nice thing is there's a new sheriff in town today. Life is good.:BigApplause:

Nice. Hope everyone is enjoying global warming -- and it's just getting started.

1920. So the reference of 400 years was knowingly misleading? Why?
We won't be hanging out together for one reason. I'm staying here. Enjoy Plymouth.
And, yes, life is good. But it could always be better.

And thanks to global warming and increasing CO2 -- life is getting better.

Maybe (or maybe not) for "life" in general, but certainty not for humanity or other lifeforms that thrive best in more temperate climates.

PS; Nice picture. Shows signs of former(?) human activity, but nothing at present. In fact, I notice a total lack of animal life. Only plants.

Yes, the Earth is sending out an SOS (save our soil and water). What is written in post 66 can easily be checked. One just has to read about what is happening in the Arctic. The Arctic is like an early warning system for our mid latitudes. The Arctic is warming at a rate 4 times faster than we are at our mid latitudes. If the permafrost starts burning then MORE CO2 will be released into the atmosphere.

Funny how climate deniers knock themselves out to TRY and disprove what 95% of all climate scientists are telling them - that the Earth is HEATING up and that is bad. Why are they avoiding something that is SO OBVIOUS. And don't they REALIZE that their children and grandchildren are going to INHERIT an Earth that will make it HARDER for them to succeed? Their minds have been taken by propaganda that has been successfully emanated from those that make their money from the biggest pollution scam in the History of the World - namely the oil and gasoline industry that refuses to DIE. They say that it is better for the Earth to DIE than their money making CONSPIRACY.

That's ACTUALLY TRUE. Global Warming will continue. 2024 was the HOTTEST year for the Earth on record (since such records were kept). Look at a graph for global heating. It rises greatly in the last 10 years. The summer of 2025 will be another RECORD hot mess. So, enjoy the results of the CO2 and methane that is coming out of the tailpipes of the GASOLINE Golf Carts, gas cars and trucks, Chinese COAL burning, and US industrial pollution. Incidentally, WE the US of A could help cut down the coal use in China because the US is their biggest customer. We may pay less for their export products, but it comes with the price tag of additional Global Warming and HURRICANES in our backyard. So, Tik Tok that into the environmental EQUATION !!!!!!!

I can tell you-all something interesting and funny. Almost everyone believes that an orange-red sunset is sssooo beautiful. And, I agree, it is beautiful. But, it is colorful because of all the pollution in the air. That's what gives a sunset its reddish GLOW. Forrest fires and volcanic eruptions can cause intense RED sunsets