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We built machines, that ran on coal and oil, and put out so called "greenhouse gases" for the last 150-200 years. So now, according to some, the world is going to end in our grandchildren's lifetime. And our influence, our "evil", will destroy the world by overriding millions and millions of years of climate cycles driven by the power of the sun, the Earth's orbit and variations in its axis. And all this is because you bought the latest SUV. Amazing, isn't it???? So let's all go back to living in caves in the dark and hunting our food with a bow and arrow. We will be "saving" the planet :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: |
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Then if anyone wants to know by how much is the global temperature RISING. The VERY FIRST sentence at the top of the link says, " Global Temperatures have been in increasing at a rate of 2 degrees Farenheight since 1880. I believe that this link DEFINITIVELY proves that earth temperature is INCREASING and CAUSED by mankind ! (And now I can't wait to hear the rebuttals to the expert by our very own non-experts) |
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.........So, I can see how the weather club could be dominated by people with their own particular fixed agenda. That is a shame. |
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........If we could live another 100 years we might be living on the southern tip of Florida (without moving). |
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Is that 2 degrees/year????? That would make it about 371F today-----But I'll only go out for 12 minutes so I'm medium rare. 2 degrees/ decade????---that would only make it 115.2 today 2 degrees/century?????-- maybe, but even that's high |
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Studied this Philosopher of Science in college. Worth a look if you have not read anything by him. Thomas Kuhn - Wikipedia He has a lot of critics out there as well. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions - Wikipedia One of the people who taught one of these classes was a Physics professor specializing in the weather. It was taught by three professors-- one in Philosophy, one in History and one in Physics. |
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.........And it delivered the subject that we are now talking about..........namely Global Warming and glaciers melting. |
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nice try......feel free to try again! |
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E= corrupted science
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Remember, only man-made CO2. It can be part of more complex combinations of gasses, consider the chemical interactions. Site your sources, turn in your notes and worksheets. No getting answers from other students. 🙈🙉🙊 |
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Climate.gov-- "Over at least the past million years, glacial and interglacial cycles have been triggered by variations in how much sunlight reaches the Northern Hemisphere in the summer, which are driven by small variations in the geometry of Earth’s orbit around the Sun. But these fluctuations in sunlight aren’t enough on their own to bring about full-blown ice ages and interglacials. They trigger several feedback loops that amplify the original warming or cooling. During an interglacial, sea ice and snow retreat, reducing the amount of sunlight the Earth reflects; warming increases atmospheric water vapor, which is a powerful greenhouse gas; permafrost thaws and decomposes, releasing more methane and carbon dioxide; and the ocean warms and releases dissolved carbon dioxide, which traps even more heat. These feedbacks amplify the initial warming until the Earth’s orbit goes through a phase during which the amount of Northern Hemisphere summer sunlight is minimized. Then these feedbacks operate in reverse, reinforcing the cooling trend." So, has mankind increased the cycle of climate change, slowed it or made any difference whatsoever? I'd say anyone that supposes that mankind has changed the climate cycles is pretty arrogant to think that man has that much power. Did man cause the ice age or just the tropics? This is getting boring because the fact is that mankind has very little ability to change what is going to happen in this climatic change....if any at all. To be honest with you, I do not know or even care if NOAA is right or not. I have no plans to go back to transportation by horse, the telegraph versus telephone or even radio instead of TV. Man has produced comforts that has made him live a great lifestyle and other than air quality (which as gotten better since I was a child) I don't care. If you are worried about those living in the next century or millennium, I am sure they will be announcing that the "sky is falling" also. Actually, maybe an asteroid will strike the earth by then, anyway. Or maybe the moon and send the moon crashing into the earth, or maybe the great filament in the sun will finally burn out and no one will be around to worry about whether we should use paper or plastic bags when we shop. |
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Just asking the time frame of the reported 2 degrees |
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GREAT POST!!!!! |
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And I thought the post was waaay to long when the point, hidden in all that verbosity was, "I don't care". Disappointing Post, if you ask me (which you won't because I am one of those "truly indoctrinated anthropogenic climate change believer"s). 😎 |
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Another farcical attempt to deny what a huge majority of climate scientists and the data have clearly shown : the last few decades have had a significant increase in land temperature, sea temperature, glacial melting etc. And sounding using the last seven years to attempt to convince readers that we are in a cooling period is propagandist lying. We have had this before when the deniers used a particular hot year, 1997, to attempt to show there was no global warming. Seven years ago was a hot year. A very hot year.
Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Daily Mail Online Take a look at the graph. Notice the trend. Take a look at 1997 and how it was an outlier which all the deniers used as a baseline to try to tell us that nothing was happening because the temperature dropped from 1997 to 2011. See how they could bloviate about global cooling over the last 14 years by cherry picking? And here we have more of that. Just look at the bigger picture. Air temperature is just one of the indicators of global temperature change. It is the one we best understand. But increased heat is not just in the air, it is in the soil, it is also in the water surface and deep ocean, it is used to melt glaciers. When you melt ice the energy of melting does not change the temperature of the material It is 32 ice then it is 32 water. But lots of energy get used. The amount of energy to melt a unit of ice, with no temperature change, just a phase change is the same as required to then heat that unit of water from 32 degrees to 176 degrees. A huge amount of energy. The glaciers in the national park that have been there for nearly 10000 years have shrunk in recent years. The glaciers in Greenland, Alaska, and Antarctica are melting. That is not a cooling trend. yes it is a FACT that 2021 was cooler than seven years ago, a completely misleading fact the obfuscates the clear trend of higher temps, melting glaciers, sea level rise. |
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