Global warming is temperature averages over the past several hundred years along with measurements from ice cores. It’s an average. Overall our planet is increasing. Being an average means there will be ebb and flows of seasonal temps higher and lower during seasons, but when you factor all the temps globally over time the data is unmistakable. The average is increasing. You can’t judge global warming by using one specific geographical location during one season. That’s not an average over hundreds of years.

Global warming is climate change
 

Anyone who doesn’t believe climate change is not real isn’t watching what is happening. It’s evident here in Florida with hotter summers and stronger storms. Not just about effects of winter storms. It’s year round

Global warming - Climate change. It's not saying that Alaska won't get snow again, It's saying the world's climates are changing, to our detriment, because of global warming in the northern and southern poles, adding an increase in water levels throughout the world. Do some legitimate research before you pass on nonsense! Pathetic.

Back in my day
 

"Back in my day, we called an event like this WEATHER." ( Quote stated in the best Old Man voice I could come up with)
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My bad. That actually was older cost per kWh..
I hadn't noticed our current Government cap on electricity prices has been lowered.

If that is at the current Ofgem cap of £0.27 per kWh the Tesla will cost £20.25 to charge from 0 to 100%.30 Oct 2023 (about $24.70 at today's Ex.rate)

So cheaper than I stated. Our gas is a little cheaper as well, despite all the goings on in Middle East.

record snow
 

There will be ups and downs but when enough ice and snow melts around the poles it will get hotter and hotter.

New Study Finds Most Of Antarctica Has Cooled By Over 1°C Since 1999…W. Antarctica Cooled 1.8°C

Significant West Antarctic Cooling in the Past Two Decades Driven by Tropical Pacific Forcing in: Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society Volume 104 Issue 6 (2023)

Snowfall amounts do NOT negate Global Warming. It takes WARM air to create snow (when cold air meets WARM air). Scientists take thousands of reading over the whole earth and also the ocean. remember the ocean is rising from melting ice at BOTH poles and MORE rapidly than scientists expected.
........So Anchorage has some snow....big deal......statistically, that is an N or ONE. Just ONE reading on a whole earth full of readings that point to the CONCLUSION that the last 8 or 10 years show dangerous warming that is MAN-MADE.
........but nice try, I am sure that the DENIERS will run hard with this thread. I can't wait to see the "200 million years ago we started into a warming period.....and NOT man-made".

Global Warming is totally FAKE….
 

Exactly correct. The biggest Fleecing of America and the World ever.

Anyone interested in things like this should watch the documentary "Life on Our Planet" - will make you think twice about our frail existence. We are relative newcomers to Earth and probably not destined to last long. We will be the first species to bring about our own mass extinction. The film is on Netflix.

Air quality IS better today than it was when I was a child. Money HAS been spent, sometimes wasted on ideas. The only way to completely rid our planet of man made pollution is to get rid of mankind, period. And that ain't gonna happen. Humans have populated the world for thousands of years. I don't care what research is done under the guise of a cure for global warming, climate change and air quality. Just don't force me to pay for it when there are a lot of wealthier folks exploiting the environment for their own enjoyment. As long as the law allows it, I will use fossil fuel, burn wood in my smoker(or charcoal) and run my A/C. As far as global warming is concerned, I am all for it. I didn't move to Florida for the sand, sand fleas and swamps. And I didn't move here for snow skiing either. I'm one more vote for warm weather and sunshine. :clap2:

I remember when "Hot enough for you today?' wasn't a multi thread conversation starter. Moving to dog poop status on the TOTV meter.

Global Warming
 

Global warming affects ALL the seasons. We should learn more about the scientific and proven effects of it instead of dismissing it

Nicely put. And use an open mind but throw some critical thinking into the mix.

This is an isolated incident. Why are you challenging Global Warming? Last summer was the hottest on record.

I've got some carbon credits leftover if anyone wants to buy some.

In 1987 Asia produced 5.74 B tons of CO2, the U.S, produced 4.83 B tons. In 2021 Asia 20.70 B tons, U, S. 4.72 B tons. Our automobiles produce .375 B tons of CO2. If U.S. totally eliminated CO2 production Asia would bring worldwide production back to current level in 2 years. Go to ourworldindata.com and see what a pimple United States is the worldwide production of CO2. Do we have a right as a developed nation to tell the undeveloped nations they have to stay in the dark ages which is the only way to lower CO2 production worldwide. We humans have gotten where we are because we are adaptable. I think our adaptability will serve us well in the future not windmills, solar panels, and electric cars. My data came from ourworldindata.com.

Might want to backtrack a bit and learn the difference between a continent and a country. Asia is not a country. And, the continent of North America isn't made up exclusively of the US.

Also might consider looking down that webpage to the CO2 emissions per capita - you'll see Americans emit almost as much CO2 as China does, not quite as much as Australians do, and less than Saudi Arabians. But all other countries emit less per capita than the US.

Coldest winters in Reno lately
 

I live in Reno. Where our house is located east of the sierra mountains, we had a decade of only needing to shovel once or twice a winter. The past couple years we hired a shoveling service because we have been having regular snowfalls for months on end! The ski slopes in the past decade often couldn’t open until after the new year. One opened last week because it is so cold already. It seems part of typical patterns for the region if you read the history of the area.

Yes, you can help to stop Global Warming. Simply buy an E-bike, an E-golf cart, an E-car, or an E-truck. That will put less CO2 into the upper atmosphere and lessen the HEAT reflection.

Scientists disagree !!!!!!

Good thought-provoking post.

The higher the temperature the more water vapor that AIR can hold.

It just isn't that simple. Arkansas will now be hosting Exxon-Mobile's first foray into the United States with mining lithium. The process involves separating the lithium from saltwater. In Arkansas. A landlocked state. There's no natural saltwater, they have to drill over 10,000 feet to get to it. The process also results in pollution to area freshwater sources. Which means - a whole lot of new employees to do the drilling, and a whole lot of new employees to dig new plots in cemeteries to bury all the people who will die from poisoned water sources.

And that's because - there is no place to PUT the polluted water, they don't have the kinds of treatment plants necessary to clean the toxic waste produced by the lithium drilling operation.

No point in reducing global warming that will happen eventually whether we contribute to it or not, if everyone is dead before it ever gets that far.

There's lots of lithium in Arkansas. So there's going to be lots of drilling. And lots of displaced wildlife who have to live somewhere, but won't be living near the wells. The country will be less reliant on foreign sources for lithium - which is where you get those batteries for your electric vehicles. So we pollute the land to get the lithium that makes the batteries we use in our electric cars that we drive to prevent pollution from oil drilling.

See what I mean? It's not that simple.

The only SACRIFICES that need to be made are for 30 % of new car, truck, and golf cart buyers to purchase E-vehicles instead of the polluting internal combustion vehicles.

Is that worse than double dribble in basketball?

The last 8 years are the warmest in recorded history. Definitely man-made !!!!!!

Remind me... What brand of E-bike, E-golf cart, E-car/truck did you purchase?

Yes, because man has been around for only 8 years...

Which increases the temp more than CO2 does...

It is unusual to have record breaking snowfall in early November. I believe the El Niño effect is responsible. Record breaking precipitation is being seen throughout the world. Some major cities have flooded due to an abundance of rain. Buckle up your seat belts! Most likely, we are going to see some crazy weather this year.

As a side note, some posters stated precipitation is not an element of climate. It most definitely is! The rain forest and arid climates are perfect examples.

Well.... to start with, could it be a "follow the money" thing... do you think it's possible that many have made a great deal of money by engaging in research projects that support global warming ? There are so many ways to produce convincing "research", the average man on the street (whoever that is) unless they completed an earned PhD with a research requirement, have no idea how easy it is to set up a study to "prove" whatever you wish to prove. Choose your variables carefully, ignore any that might counter indicate, set your level of error carefully, chose your experimental groups carefully.. it is very easy when you know the structure, but, I doubt very much that any climate scientists would engage in such "adjusted" study formats, just like our pharmaceutical manufacturers would never construct trials and studies to produce favorable results for a new medicine or vaccine, right ?

Probably true. For some, money is a motivating factor.

Did you know that commercial snow crab fishing in the Bering Sea off Alaska has been banned for the second straight year? There has been a huge decline from 8 billion down to 1 billion in the crab population due to the warming waters which increase the crab's metabolism and cause them to starve. The crab season has never been canceled before.

Global warming/climate change statistics are the result of averaging temperatures over an entire year. Yes, some winters may be colder than others but over a period of years, decades and centuries the earth's temperatures have been steadily rising. To deny scientific facts and to do nothing to combat the warming trend shows total disregard and selfishness for the generations to follow.

If the heavy snowstorms continue throughout the season, this should help cool the water temperature. Perhaps, not significantly, but any reduction is better than none.

One of the concerns of global warming is increased levels of precipitation. My questions were:
1. Is the cause El Niño? Which would be a 2023 weather phenomena.

2.Are scientists shaking their heads in disbelief? Increased precipitation would mean their theory is looking to be correct. This year, several cities have been flooded due to an abundance of rain. It is continuing with EARLY record breaking snow fall. It may sound counterintuitive, but heavy snowfall can be a result of global warming.

3.Why hasn't this seen more news coverage? Followers of global warming would want ALL weather emergencies to be reported.

You first. I'm not interested in EVs at this time. I can find better things to spend my limited income on. But, I think it's great that "others" play with EVs. EVs have been around since the 1800's and have yet to become that efficient or popular. On the other hand, natural gas or hydrogen powered vehicles are probably a better idea in the evolution of powered transportation.

Like it or not, EVs are a disruptive technology and will continue to gain popularity. The Tesla Model Y (their small SUV, about the size of a Toyota RAV4 or Honda CR-V) is the best selling new car in the world and the US. By 2030, EVs are projected to be 50% of new car sales. From an energy perspective, EVs consume much less energy than gas cars although the manufacturing process for an EV consumes more energy than a gas car. Natural gas and hydrogen powered vehicles will most likely remain a niche form of transportation. The issue is a lack of a distribution network and the high cost of developing one. With EVs, every garage is a recharging station and publicly available recharging stations are rapidly being built out across the world. Most importantly, Governments and car manufacturers are "all in" with EVs. There are financial incentives to buy an EV by the Government (just like there are for houses) but you will not be forced to buy an EV. Gas powered vehicles will most likely be around for the next 30 years.

Yup. EV, solar panels, and wind turbines are going to change the climate of an entire planet. Especially if the US is the only one to do it.

If human caused climate change believers were really serious about addressing the "issue", and not just finding ways to extract money from government and gain power, they would:

1. Increase the use of NG for transportation and power generation. Burns 30% cleaner than gasoline, and requires far less refining, so even less energy used.

2. Ramp up nuclear power to eventually provide for all of our electric needs. Zero emissions.

3. Utilize battery power where is has the most impact. Which is not cars. It is smaller ICE (lawnmowers, chainsaws) that pollute far more per cubic inch than do automobiles.

Even so, these things won't make much difference. Weather is going to do what it's going to do. The best use of our money, other than the items I note above, is to invest in engineering solutions to aid in man's adaptation to changing weather patterns.