That's TRUE, and I would just add that most all inventions and societal changes come with SOME form of DOWNSIDE. Eventually, there may be a better replacement for the lithium battery (like maybe a hydrogen cell or something that we have never even heard about).
........I believe that the internal combustion engine is now "long in the tooth" and is being replaced as we speak. The US has 8% new cars that are E-powered (lithium) and Europe has about 20% of new vehicle sales of e-vehicles. I think that if the US got to 30% ONLY that the upper atmosphere reflecting layer would begin to heal and we would BEGIN to REVERSE Global Warming. This is JUST my guess, but at least it is practical and achievable without a total replacement of all ICE vehicles.
.........With E-vehicles we do NOT have to stop pollution at EVERY MOVING VEHICLE like with ICE vehicles (which is difficult). We have better control of the pollution coming from the Electricity generating Companies and sources.
.........And a VERY big positive would be that we would NOT have to KISS the butts of the Saudi Arabians. And we might better avoid Middle East wars.

In Europe, EVs represent 20 % of new car sales. It is 6 % in the US. But, remember, "the trend is your friend"!

Or due to dredging the oceans clean of fish. Over fishing probably the cause. China dredging fleets doesn’t really care about seasons or international law.

Europe better suited for EV, they don’t travel as far as we do and have. Better public transportation. Heard on news (can trust news?) EV sales are tending up, but manufacturers are trending EV production down cause the losing their ___ on them.

I think you will find that the US is far from being on its own regarding the power sources you mention, in fact, compared to Europe, Scandinavia, and many other countries, America is lagging way behind.
When you consider the amount of sunshine that Florida alone gets, you would think a solar farm or two around/in The Villages, could probably make the place self sufficient for electric energy.
Probably show a profit selling surplus electricity to local grid.

IMO Cause 100x population and area. Have to cover half state and stop contrails from blocking sun rays.

I have been on several missions through our church. To say the USA is lagging behind is an understatement. I am amazed at what some countries have been able to achieve. Hopefully, we get our heads out of the sand soon.

Contrails?
Think you need to read up on how modern day solar panels work.

Like I said, "you first." I don't believe in your herd mentality, preferring to make my own way. I do not care what others wish to do regarding EVs. Like the saying goes, different strokes for different folks. I do know that when an EV golf cart goes dead due to a low power battery, it gets towed. When a fossil fuel golf cart runs dry, a simple solution is a gallon of gas to get it home and further. Unlike some folks(?) on here, I do not care what Europe, Australia or other countries do. That's their business and we do not control their actions. I use battery operated tools because I don't want the smell of gas in my garage. They are not better than fossil fuel tools.

I don't believe we were only talking about EV vehicles. That is only ONE change that has been made in other countries. In general, we were talking about how other countries have implemented ways to adapt to our changing world. Stronger structures to withstand storms, solar power, wind power, crops that can grow in drought conditions, reforestation, water preservation, etc.

Good for them. I've lived in many other countries and I've noticed how many of them that are supposed to be considered middle class earners are living no better than our poverty level. And I am including European countries in that statement. It is very easy to compare our GIANT country to the tiny countries that are able to live successfully in a socialist economy, where the gov controls everything from power to transportation. We do not have the mass transit infrastructure of those small countries. We are spread out and folks drive an hour plus each way to work every day, NOT ten minutes a few blocks away or a quick train ride to work. Americans have no patience and attempt to put the cart before the horse in many issues. Before you can power transportation or environmental conditions you must first understand and produce the power needed for those conditions. It's all about sufficient power and right now we have the machinery but not the adequate power. It's all about resources.
And I still don't think that man can do anything to control the world's climate control or change the so-call global warming or cooling. Unless, man decides to build huge domes to cover populated areas where they can have climate control.
Global Warming? Ok, so what? I enjoy warm, even hot weather. I doubt, I'll be around to see enough temp change to make a difference in my lifestyle. I'll leave all the worries to the Z generation, if they even have the intelligence to think given the drop in education quality in this country.

To supply The Villages with electric power, you would need about a 400 MW solar farm. This would cost about $500M and take up about 1000 acres of land. You would also need battery storage to be completely independent of outside power sources. If you wanted
enough battery storage for 1 day of average residential usage that may cost another $300M.

Step Up Earth’s Destruction
 

We need to mine extra hard and tear up way more land to get our battery production going. We also need more factories to make batteries and tear down some of these windmills that are killing so much wildlife. When will we figure out what to do with all this dangerous waste from broken solar panels and nuclear reactors?

Just do all this and our environment will be fine…

Be careful what you wish for! With extreme heat comes drought and famine in some areas. Strong storms and flooding, in others. If every state made a few small changes, that would help. Example: Several western states are at a risk of running out of water. However, residents act like it is a scare tactic and use more. Water conservation is easy to implement. But, very few want to.

Plenty of space around TV and area for Solar energy. Our farmers earn a fortune from energy companies leasing/selling them land
As an example.
Our local village shop here in UK is powered by solar energy. It is roofed with solar tiles, and powers lighting, fridges, freezers etc.
Excess power generated is sold to and diverted into the National Grid.
In evening when no solar energy, shop buys back power from grid at national rate.
No batteries needed or involved.
In the four years it has been running its electric cost has been in profit.
Installation costs are the only outgoings, and will be paid off in 5 more years.
Given the amount of sun and daylight we get here in UK compared to Florida, I still maintain The Villages, and for that matter Florida are way behind the times and missing out on a source of energy that could lower costs dramatically.
Sometimes a little vision of the future, and what is down the road is needed.
Do I have it? No. Installation costs and upheaval involved in our present house would be prohibitive, but if I was building a new house, I wouldn't hesitate to install.
JMHO.

What you describe saves money for the homeowner and possibly makes money if electricity can be sold back. Without batteries, it is only effective during sunny days but we do have a lot of those here. Perhaps the installation can be paid off in four years but that means no savings to the homeowner for those four years since the money is going back into the initial construction.

Is there really enough land around the Villages? Since I don't feel like looking it up, let's assume the 1,000 acres is correct. With a density of about five homes per acre here, that would require giving up an area that would otherwise be used to construct 5,000 new homes or about two year's worth of construction. If the developer gets even 10% of the price of the new home as profit then at $400K per home that would come out to about $200M in lost profit. Is it realistic to believe the developer would forego $200M worth of profit from new homes to build a solar farm to supply existing homes?

Will the electric company purchase excess power? There was a bill defeated last year that would have stripped much of the profitability of selling rooftop solar electric back to the company. Is it likely that the electric company would not fight tooth and nail to save themselves from having to purchase solar from a 1,000 acre farm? They would already be taking a loss of income from 80,000 homes so they certainly would not be interested in paying money back to those homes. If excess electric cannot be sold back to the company then it will take more than four years to pay back the initial investment.

Could it be done? Sure, nearly anything can be done. Is it feasible? I don't see a lot of companies currently attempting it which might be an indication that it is not.

I believe one of the issues with solar in Florida is the abundance of cheap electricity. This can result in a relatively long payback period for a solar installation. Also, the panels continue to drop in price so there is some incentive to wait.

Lagging behind WHAT? Jumping on the bandwagon of the largest scam in human history? Like Adolf said, the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.

That’s cause too many people moved to desert where it don’t rain and have grass lawns, swimming pools, and grass golf courses. They are wasting water and over populated for area. Just like building on outer banks then wonder why get blown away by hurricanes.

Lagging behind on ADAPTING. You must admit, we have seen quite a bit of devastation due to hurricanes, extreme heat, drought and flooding.Is the cause man-made? Like you, I'm not sure. Is the theory of Global Warming true? Can/Will Mother Nature reverse the warming trend? Again, I'm not sure.

I go on missions for the here and now. To me, changing and adapting makes sense. Are you so certain that this devastating weather pattern will end in one year? Two? Three? How many? In the meantime, I believe it is wise to make plans and to place them in action.

The USA is not doing much. Is our country right? Are the other countries wasting their time and money? It is not a gamble I would like to make. If the devastating weather pattern continues, those who have not adapted will suffer the most.

Good point.Your electricity is very cheap anyway.
Here in UK electricity is expensive
We have loads of solar and wind farms, so someone must be making a profit from them
Farmers queue up to have them on their land, as they are well paid for the land used, and of course big Government subsidies (Tax payers money) are paid as well.
They reckon about 12 years for normal use domestic solar payback time in UK.

Rising Seas
 

It cracks me up when alarmists scream the oceans are rising. Yes, they are rising and have been for the past 50,000 years. Ancient underwater cities used to all be above the water line. Yet, you hear them scream like there is something new or something can be done. They should rely more on evidence and science and less on political agendas.

Global Warming is Hogwash….just another way to Control You and get Your Money!!!

The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river.

Months later, the river is still at low levels. This is reducing the amount of grain and other crops that can be sent by barge. Many farmers have lost $25,000 to $50,000 this season due to this inability to ship their crops.

One slight variance in the planet, in this case high ocean water and low river water, can create economic disaster and even famine. Alarming situations, like my example, are occurring around the world. This is not humorous . Unless, you can survive without food and water. If you can, then laugh until your "extraordinary" belly aches.

Not Humorous
 

The world will change, what perhaps can be entertaining is watching man expel labor to control a planet that is still going to do as it wishes. Cities that have been under water for several millennia were never put there by mankind’s pollution. We cannot make the planet do as we wish. It will change constantly, the real question is can we adapt?

I personally am not entertained by someone’s misery. I just know what I see as out of our control. Can you change the Earth’s rotation speed? Can you make the Earth tilt more or less than its 28.5 degrees? Can you make it orbit closer or farther from the sun? All these events happen, but I don’t think you can control them.

Completely agree. But, one has to deal with the here and now. Finding solutions is all anyone can do. Hopefully, this devastating weather pattern is temporary and we will see relief soon.

You clearly don't understand the concept of global warming. Global warming doesn't mean every winter is going to be warmer, or that certain areas won't have cold temperatures, it just means the RATE of climate change has increased due to human causes. There is a direct connection between what scientists have identified as global warming and catastrophic weather events, so we see many more events like record breaking floods and more frequent and intense storms. Obviously, the cost to society is in the billions.

With Global Warming, Increased precipitation includes heavy snowfall. Over the past few months, many cities were flooded due to an abundance of rain. When I read Anchorage had EARLY RECORD BREAKING SNOWFALL, my questions were these:

Is the cause El Niño? Which would mean this is a MERELY a 2023/2024 phenomenon.

Are scientists shaking their heads in disbelief? Record amounts of precipitation AROUND THE WORLD seem to prove their theory of Global Warming is correct. Do they think it is going to get worse? Are we reaching the point of no return?

Why hasn't there been news coverage like the daily interest in summer's scorching heat? Followers of Global Warming would want ALL WEATHER EMERGENCIES to get equal coverage.

Mississippi Pool 8
 

Interesting, we have a place on Pool 8 of the Mississippi, it has been so high the COE had to open the flood gates many times this year. This is a pic of our boat landing that is underwater...LOW WATER ...I dont think so

Low flow in the lower Mississippi resulting in a saltwater wedge flowing upstream and affecting the water supply for New Orleans. Easy enough to Google.

Perhaps this high water will flow downstream and alleviate the problem.

Certainly easy to Google Mississippi River Flooding 2023

Mississippi River Flood of 2023

The LOWER Mississippi is at extreme low levels. Flooding of the Upper Mississippi is also occurring.This is puzzling scientists.

April and May in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa??? And somehow that is pertinent to saltwater incursion in Louisiana in October!

You mean this graph of the LOWER Mississippi (showing normal levels, as of today)?

Lower Mississippi River Stages

No, it is not about river levels.

Much of the Mississippi river bed in at least southern Louisiana is below sea level. If a dam was built above New Orleans and the river flow stopped, the water from the Gulf would flow northwards. The only thing holding the saltwater out of the Mississippi is the volume of water flowing down the river.

In the late September to early November timeframe, the flow in the river was insufficient to keep the saltwater out. It appears that even last week the saltwater wedge had pushed 63 miles up river. It seems like the river is beginning to win this month. I haven't seen any articles more recent than mid-October so maybe the problem has abated for this year.

Not about river levels?

Then please explain this post that started this offshoot of the thread:

"The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river."

Google is your friend.

Shipping problems in the mid-Missippi above Louisiana. Salt intrusion in the lower Mississippi at and below New Orleans. Shipping issues due to low water level. Salt intrusion due to low flow. Perhaps the low levels in the middle section which affect shipping result in a low flow in the lower section that enables the salt intrusion.

The Information is easy to find. Google: drought Mississippi River or historic low levels Mississippi River

The Mississippi is a long river, you can't pick an area then state. Nope! Not happening! Google what was stated.

Then you should have responded to the person who claimed the river levels were low...

You know, the person to whom's claim I responded?

Oh, and I used Google to get my information, so I don't understand your need for the snarky "Google is your friend" response...

I'm confused (not the first time). You responded to my post and I answered you.

The Mississippi is very long and water levels can vary along its course. Reports from Memphis show a very shallow Mississippi. Obviously, the river where it meets the Gulf is not going to be low, the saltwater will flow upstream instead and lead to problems with New Orleans drinking water.

I used a search engine to learn about the varied river levels, the shipping issues, and the salt intrusion. As you did not have the same information, my assumption was you had not looked. Since you *have* looked but still did not see the same reports I don't know what else to suggest.