Fact check your preferred "scientists". Follow big oil money to see where it goes. And your right that scientists should report truth. If they all did, then everyone would agree that human activity and industry is pushing global warming ever faster. 🫥😒

Still around, I'm sad to say. Now one part of larger issues.

Whac-A-Hurricane? Cute! 😏🙄

This is just plain laughable...There really is no helping you.
Just how long is the growing season in Colombia compared to Illinois?
You do know that fertilizer raises crop yields...Riiight?
How exactly does soil get "over used"? Soil is just soil.

Crop yields and productivity in the Mississippi river system are - By far - the highest in the world...Even with the short growing season.

It's a simple concept: Atmospheric H2O and CO2 rise as global temperatures rise...Permafrost thaws and deserts revert back into forests and steppes...Plant life flourishes and crop yields increase and growing seasons lengthen...More natural nitrogen fertilizer is
created from increased lightning energy. This is literally GRADE SCHOOL science.

Looking at it scientifically, the Earth is very near to being a cold and dead planet (most of the earth surface is permafrost and desert) with low temperatures and low atmospheric CO2 and low cloud cover/rain.

Anyway...Why bother.

Environmentalism is obviously just another religion.

Then explain how exactly the same climate changes have occurred dozens of times before humans were walking upright?????

Classic case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Here's an analogy:

Every year on July 4th for over a hundred years millions of fireworks are set off. Next year I'm going to eat a cupcake on July 3rd, and convince everyone else to do the same. Therefore, cupcakes will have CAUSED noise on July 4th. An entire cult of anti-cupcake minions arises, funded by the popsicle industry that will make a fortune if they can convince people to switch to "combat" cupcake eating. They permeate government, media and universities. "Scientists" publish studies claiming cupcakes will cause imminent worldwide catastrophes. Corporations push popsicles over cupcakes. The news does "hit pieces" on the evil of cupcakes. The weak minded give in to this Jedi mind trick.

But in reality, ONE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

Can I have a black and white cookie instead?

No, the black and white cookie cult is a subset of the anti-cupcake cult. You need special qualifications to join, like a complete inability to see the forest for the trees and an ability to ignore the fact that cupcake induced Independence Day noise is a myth.

All the hoopla aside, it is pretty much undeniable that the human race does better when things warm up, worse when it cools off.

But there is some scary stuff out there. Back in my younger days I was aware, through friends and some attendance on my part, of the "environmental" movement. A lot of the organizations that are now (unfortunately or not) part of our lives as Americans got their beginnings back then: the Environmental Justice Movement of the early 1980s, save the ozone, PETA, Denis Hayes and the Earth Day movement, etc. etc. Without going into details, there were a fair number of extremists flying under the radar; people who saw this stuff as gospel as well as others who may not so much have believed in the hype and hoopla quite as strongly as the True Believers but who were nevertheless adept at organizing, indoctrinating and demonstrating.

One of the topics that got a fair amount of play, at least among the folks I knew, was that North America, in an ideal situation where human activity was NOT harming the environment, could support at most eleven million hunter-gatherers. I'm not joking when I say that such a prospect was given serious thought by the more extreme folks. It was ludicrous then and even more so now, but one has to consider just what ARE the long-term goals of the more extreme environmentalists, especially considering the practice of no goal reached is ever enough: I seriously doubt that if an extreme environmental group saw all of their goals achieved one day, that they'd NOT have a list of even more extreme goals on the table the next.

What ARE the long-term goals of the more extreme environmentalists? We don't know, and I doubt we ever will.

Nice guy that I am will offer another choice, The infamous 7 layer cake.:BigApplause:

Idiotic? Asinine? Crazy? Insane? Ridiculous? Illogical? I can keep going all day……. Most insidious idea on how to strip you over time of your entire investments and your children’s’ inheritance

Wait. You have to admit cow farts are a big problem. We need to create a panel to identify causes and see if science can create a special feed for cows to reduce bovine flatulence. Monsanto??? Are you listening?

But think of what it would accomplish. Everyone would be "equal". Nobody would possess more than another since we would all be living in abject poverty. Well, not all of us---some animals are more equal than others. And that $168 Trillion would be used to fight the "good fight" ---the fool's errand of fighting "global warming" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not quite. Many folks, individually and collectively, have made many changes. Whole industries have been created to take action to make changes in the damage that runaway industrialization, pollution, habitat destruction have caused. Governments, individually and collectively, are trying to turn the tide of continuous damage to our planet, our home, where we have to live.

This is the ridiculous part -- how the media (and complicit experts) twist the facts in order to protect a myth that CO2 is a control knob. Find out more Sep 6, 4 PM, at Lake Miona -- for the weekly Philosophy Club meeting.

I told you once! Short term memory loss?

We should be thinking more about what kind of world we are handing over to our grandkids and great grandkids and not just the price of gas and groceries in the present.

You failed to provide the "science" of your response. Anyone can make up a number.

Laughable? Yes. You over simplify.
Fertilizer can help, but there are negative effects thanks to over use, run off, etc. Fertilizer is not a one size fits all solution. There is a dark side. Very dark.
Ever hear of crop rotation? Even the soil needs to rest and recover from over use.
"Soil is just soil". No. It's not. 🫥😒🙄

Yes, we should. The world the climate change cultists want is one of abject poverty for 99.99% and 0.01% benefiting from the windfall of $168 TRILLION spent to "combat" the absolute fallacy of anthropogenic global warming at our expense. I'd rather these cultists use at least 2 neurons to realize the science of paleoclimatology tells us humans have nothing to do with these repetitive cycles of glaciation and interglacial thaws and spend their efforts addressing real problems such as how to lower their golf handicaps. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

That's why I like you. You are mad as a hatter? Most entertaining "analogy" I may have ever heard! 😄😁🤣

But I forgot to mention, the change in noise won't even occur for another 50,000 years. Still nothing to do with cupcakes.

Hard for anyone to say what will happen in 50,000 years based on tree rings or deep ice chemicals.

Why waste my time? You don't believe anything that doesn't fit in your narrative. No point in telling you what you refuse to hear. This I have learned from you. Thank you for the lesson. 🙂🙂🙂

Again ... you don't know how much man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year ... which is why the media and so-called experts won't say ---- because it's soooo tiny it exposes the CO2 control-knob scam.

I have an analogy for you.
Jon puts 3 cupcakes on the table. Garfield comes to the table. Jon returns with a glass of milk and discovers the cupcakes are gone, Garfield has chocolate on his face and his breath, when he burps, smells like chocolate.
So, who do you think ate the cupcakes?
(I shiver with anticipation of your response! 😃😃😃)

You know----------there is a word that I learned in 6th grade -------------RATIONALIZATION--------------that so often is useful in adult life. When someone tries to tell you that UP is really DOWN, you often notice how CLEVER their DECEPTION really is. People in Washington get especially clever at using RATIONALIZATION. And sometimes at a local level. And throw in a pretty chart and the DECEPTION is artful.

If they repeat it often enough, then about 34% of the people will buy it. We have whole TV channels dedicated to confusing the public by simple repetition. They were NOT around before 1975 when people were better at thinking for themselves.

I explained that once before here in detail.

Since EVs were mentioned. I doubt that they would have any more trouble going through standing water than internal combustion vehicles. And people conveniently forget that ICE vehicles have been improving for about 100 years. Electric Vehicles are in their DEVELOPMENTAL INFANCY !!!!!!!

Altruism ? Scientists would be at the top of a scale of professions for ALTRUISM. Scientists would be way ahead of stock brokers, car salesman, insurance salesman, office workers, farmers, and man, MANY others.

Sorry, NOT true.

If i wanted some knowledge and my choice were the Local Weather Club or a discussion with the local wino at a bar.........I believe I would prefer the bar.

Exactly what I thought you would say

That is true that science evolves. But, for the future and the last 30 years I believe that Climate Change is "SETTLED science". I believe that when 50% of the worlds vehicles are Electric (or NOT fossil fuel burning) then the Earth will begin to COOL back to normal. Personally I feel that many Coral Reefs will be totally destroyed and the seas will cover the coastlines before people make the environment a priority. It is all very SAD. Miami will be underwater!

I have had a Miami area weather lady on Facebook for years. She seems a sincere honest and funny person. I have never seen any indication that she is out to deceive. And Miami would be one of the first US cities to really experience global warming.

Maybe she's just ignorant. Besides, the local "weathergirl" is hardly a climatologist. And even the climatologists aren't trying to decieve as much as they are trying to professionally survive

If you saw Jim Cantore getting out of a Weather Channel van with a mike in hand and a cameraman in tow here I the Villages I suppose you would just shrug it off? I would take cover.

I am skeptical of anyone saying that the US government, or Climate professors, are ALL OVER THE WORLD lying for the purpose of SOMEHOW ???? controlling peoples minds. That is strange and sinister like a BAD horror movie.

Does she have a degree in weatherology? Is that a new word?

Many just read what the teleprompter tells them to say.