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I love the TOTV “know-it-all’s” climate experts both the left and right. I played golf yesterday, with a Bob, who said he moved from the gulf coast “to get away from the hurricanes”. “I had enough” he said. True story. Oh, he put our group to shame. Shot par on Okeechobee.
That is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of a logical human ADAPTATION to a REAL problem. The man was just doing a LOGICAL adaptation to the REAL problem of Global Warming. He is keeping it REAL. Now if only he could be convinced to buy an e-BIKE or an E- VEHICLE. Note - if you look up "deaths due to climate change in India", you will find that over 3,000 deaths were DIRECTLY attributed to Climate Change. Texas had a lot of deaths this summer due to Climate change. Imagine how high those will be in Texas and Florida five years from now when world population and CO2 production goes even higher. Imagine in 5 years how hard it is going to be to keep out the Climate Migration from South America into the US and from Africa into Europe. Will that cause problems?
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Old 11-19-2024, 11:36 AM
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IF he disbands what you are calling a cult of TRUE BELIEVERS, then what he will be DISBANDING is Science and Scientific Curiosity. That would mean that US industry will STOP innovating and the US will be driven back and lose 20 years of Scientific innovation. The US will become a NON-INNOVATING country. Think about the consequences of that before jumping on the devolution bandwagon.
.......Each year it will get HOTTER in the summer and more difficult to play golf. The GREENS could become BROWNS in 5 years. And Florida will be water-rationing. I predict that in 5 years golf will become an 8 months-out-of-the-year SPORT.
Geez, time to move.

Over a thousand years ago Greenland was green.
Get a jump on the currently low real estate prices !
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:53 PM
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Hottest on "record" yes ... but only since 1979 which is when global satellite data began. .
Isn't that what "on record" means? 🤔😏
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And he would have to be a powerful GOD to just decree it and it thus becomes truth.
Respectfully disagree agree. He can be a maniac with the power and position to silence the opposition and truth. Ref: see Germany, early/mid 20th century.
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Respectfully disagree agree. He can be a maniac with the power and position to silence the opposition and truth. Ref: see Germany, early/mid 20th century.
You really think a Sec of Energy could have so much power? Geez

The last one hardly ever showed-up to work.
It is a very good thing that at least this proposed new guy has a technical education, and background in energy.
That's a change for the better.
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You really think a Sec of Energy could have so much power? Geez
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Possibly. Depends on who his boss is and the orders he is given. The title could easily be changed from Secretary to Czar. After all, what's in a name.
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That is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of a logical human ADAPTATION to a REAL problem. The man was just doing a LOGICAL adaptation to the REAL problem of Global Warming. He is keeping it REAL. Now if only he could be convinced to buy an e-BIKE or an E- VEHICLE. Note - if you look up "deaths due to climate change in India", you will find that over 3,000 deaths were DIRECTLY attributed to Climate Change. Texas had a lot of deaths this summer due to Climate change. Imagine how high those will be in Texas and Florida five years from now when world population and CO2 production goes even higher. Imagine in 5 years how hard it is going to be to keep out the Climate Migration from South America into the US and from Africa into Europe. Will that cause problems?
No, due to seasonal hot summer. Before humans the world was lot hotter. Hopefully in 5 years migration from south and Central America will be reduced to acceptable level?

Global plate shifts will eventually turn deserts in to tropical lowlands and tropical lowlands in to desert.

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Old 11-20-2024, 10:51 AM
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Isn't that what "on record" means? 🤔😏
Also world temperature records go back over 100 years.
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Old 11-20-2024, 10:57 AM
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Geez, time to move.

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Yes, it is "time to move". Northward at least one or two states. If I could afford it, I hear that Spain is nice. Mue Bien.
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I love the TOTV “know-it-all’s” climate experts both the left and right. I played golf yesterday, with a Bob, who said he moved from the gulf coast “to get away from the hurricanes”. “I had enough” he said. True story. Oh, he put our group to shame. Shot par on Okeechobee.
Climate Change is NOT a "left or right" issue. 95% of Climate Scientists believe in man-made Climate Change. The best Scientists develop a reputation for being independent of ANY political pressure.
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Old 11-20-2024, 11:35 AM
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Climate Change is NOT a "left or right" issue. 95% of Climate Scientists believe in man-made Climate Change. The best Scientists develop a reputation for being independent of ANY political pressure.
Correction: 95% of climate scientists SAY they believe in man made climate change
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Correction: 95% of climate scientists SAY they believe in man made climate change
Ditto. Judith Curry is living proof of how the climate industry funds climate alarmism versus climate reality. Learn more Nov 21 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor.
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Correction: 95% of climate scientists SAY they believe in man made climate change
That is an interesting method for disproving ANYTHING that ANY expert or group of experts report in Scientific Journals. Just pretend that the reader of a statement in a journal can EQUATE their opinion with that of the PROFESSIONALS in their field. Many people like to DISCOUNT experts when they do NOT agree with them. I am aware that in the profession of Medicine that Doctors do NOT self-diagnose their own illnesses - but rather go to another Doctor (expert) for their advice.
.........Because the majority of Climate Scientists say that we are having DANGEROUS Global Warming that has INCREASED dramatically in the last 5 years, I have to believe them. I see no contrary evidence. I know for a fact that Coral Reefs are dying. I know that the ice at the North pole is almost all melting. We all have seen pictures of polar bears floating on SMALL, tiny islands of Ice. They are listed as threatened and depleted. Emperor Penguins are in danger of EXTINCTION.
...........So, basically MAN on Earth is willing to KILL OFF Polar bears and Penguins because the population of people has grown out of control and there has been very little attempts to stop coal burning and the pollution from gasoline internal combustion engines. It would be only a slight inconvenience for people in the US and Europe to switch to driving electric vehicles (they even accelerate faster), but it seems that they would rather KILL OFF Coral Reefs, Polar Bears, Penguins, and many other species.
........What is so GREAT about having 8.2 Billion people on Earth, with 10 Billion by 2060. Parts of the Earth will get so HOT as to be uninhabitable. Northward migration will occur in the northern hemisphere and many, many WARS will start.
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That is an interesting method for disproving ANYTHING that ANY expert or group of experts report in Scientific Journals. Just pretend that the reader of a statement in a journal can EQUATE their opinion with that of the PROFESSIONALS in their field. Many people like to DISCOUNT experts when they do NOT agree with them. I am aware that in the profession of Medicine that Doctors do NOT self-diagnose their own illnesses - but rather go to another Doctor (expert) for their advice.
.........Because the majority of Climate Scientists say that we are having DANGEROUS Global Warming that has INCREASED dramatically in the last 5 years, I have to believe them. I see no contrary evidence. I know for a fact that Coral Reefs are dying. I know that the ice at the North pole is almost all melting. We all have seen pictures of polar bears floating on SMALL, tiny islands of Ice. They are listed as threatened and depleted. Emperor Penguins are in danger of EXTINCTION.
...........So, basically MAN on Earth is willing to KILL OFF Polar bears and Penguins because the population of people has grown out of control and there has been very little attempts to stop coal burning and the pollution from gasoline internal combustion engines. It would be only a slight inconvenience for people in the US and Europe to switch to driving electric vehicles (they even accelerate faster), but it seems that they would rather KILL OFF Coral Reefs, Polar Bears, Penguins, and many other species.
........What is so GREAT about having 8.2 Billion people on Earth, with 10 Billion by 2060. Parts of the Earth will get so HOT as to be uninhabitable. Northward migration will occur in the northern hemisphere and many, many WARS will start.
Scientists used to believe the world was flat (maybe 99% of them?). Then a NON-scientist, mariner sailed around the world and proved that the "scientists" were wrong. Sometimes facts just get in the way of theory and popularity.
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