Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2401285)

Man is a very minor player.
It will reverse all by itself, as it has for the last 400,000 years at least, is another 100 years or so. We then begin the long trek into the next ice age.
The expected max temp, as predicted by the Milankovich Cycles (which are a well accepted scientific fact for many decades now), has yet to be reached.

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2401295)

And some of use are smart enough to understand there’s no way man has NOT contributed to climate change. I remember when they stopped making aerosol deodorants due to depletion of the ozone layer. Yes, the climate is always changing but also yes man has contributed to things getting more severe.

Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2401235)

Such garbage, the Santa Ana winds are not caused by climate change and Santa Ana winds have nothing to do with Santa Ana, California. Our house burned down along with 220 others in Santa Barbara due to Santa Ana winds almost 50 years ago. Back then, the fools were calling it global warming, or the hole in the ozone layer, or some other catchy phrase they tried to pull over us.
People (California leadership, homeowners) have to take responsibility for these fires, for example, the idiotic leadership has to implement standards in building construction, like no cedar roofs, no tall trees close to the house and creating fire breaks and implementing forest management.
But, all the California leadership can do is blame everyone else. These fires are right next to the ocean, salt water that would extinguish the flames easier, and nothing is happening. We were in another fire in another state and we had 50 helicopters with buckets dipping their buckets in our lake and dumping it on the fires. Not 1 helicopter was issued to do that in these California fires.
Maui, same thing happened. Ignorant leadership.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2400951)

Find out why Jan 13 at 10 AM at the Savannah for a talk called "Florida Weather 101" for the Civil Discourse Club.

Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2401326)

You are 100% correct! Is the fault of Gavin Newsom and the mayor. He knocked down 3 dams to save a fish and took away some of their water reservoir system. They didn't clean the underbrush. They waited forever when they could've had planes, dropping water and fire retardant soon as it started. They could have called the National Guard out earlier. They could have monitored that area by just flying over every day.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2401169)

I do not pretend to understand the science of what is going on, but Mother Nature is certainly pizzed off and has been for a while.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2400951)

Find out why Jan 13 at 10 AM at the Savannah for a talk called "Florida Weather 101" for the Civil Discourse Club.

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2401295)

And some of use are smart enough to understand there’s no way man has NOT contributed to climate change. I remember when they stopped making aerosol deodorants due to depletion of the ozone layer. Yes, the climate is always changing but also yes man has contributed to things getting more severe.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2401225)

"Faster" is a subjective opinion. Do you have any supporting data -- like how much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth in 2023 for example?

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2401245)

Maybe the Wind Gusts are keeping them from providing Air Support. They have used air support including super tankers in the past, but not during high winds.

Originally Posted by lpkruege1 (Post 2401340)

The Sky is Falling, The Sky Is Falling! Seriously, just follow the money.