Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2401280)

Yes, the title is a lie meant to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2400951)

Find out why Jan 13 at 10 AM at the Savannah for a talk called "Florida Weather 101" for the Civil Discourse Club.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401374)

Same tired silly question. The data is there.
If you (humans) add fuel to a cars engine it will go faster. fact. How much faster depends on many factors, like make and model, quality of fuel, fuel mixture, load, resistance, etc. Rather than try to quiet the statement by focusing on one fluctuating element of the fuel mixture, why not engage in more constructive dialog about what might help slow the rate of warming? Global warming/climate change, once vehemently denied, is now openly accepted. One step to go is acknowledgement that human activities have played a part.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401374)

Same tired silly question. The data is there.
If you (humans) add fuel to a cars engine it will go faster. fact. How much faster depends on many factors, like make and model, quality of fuel, fuel mixture, load, resistance, etc. Rather than try to quiet the statement by focusing on one fluctuating element of the fuel mixture, why not engage in more constructive dialog about what might help slow the rate of warming? Global warming/climate change, once vehemently denied, is now openly accepted. One step to go is acknowledgement that human activities have played a part.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2401268)

All true, but I'll add best independent, non-political estimates are that human activity will simply delay the next ice age by about 5,000 years---and that is due to the rise of agriculture in Asia over the last 8,000 years and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAST 200 YEARS OF BURNING FOSSIL FUELS.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2401395)

Nicely stated. If the scientists of most reputable institutions all say the same thing they are probably right unless advances in knowledge bring new things to light . Common sense.

Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2401269)

And the government websites aren't?
Basics of Climate Change | US EPA

Global warming is not settled science. Climate change has been around since the beginning of time. And when the proposed solution is to increase taxes and throttle our standard of living then it is wise to be exposed to scientific based arguments of both sides because it is extremely complex.

I originally believed they hype from Al Gore, but became more skeptical when many scientists in the climate field were challenging the theory. So I dug further and read about the UN climate change conferences and found out that the politicians and bureaucrats dominated the discourse and the many scientists who disagreed were completely ignored.

Science can be and has many times been corrupted by special interests especially when profits and political power can be obtained.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2401400)

Santa Ana winds have been around since the dawn of humanity. There have been some very serious wind issues recorded the last decade of 19th century in the LA area. The dry years have come and gone, but none were as dry as the 1930s when the mid US recorded the time period as the “Dust Bowl”. I get a kick out of those claiming “Climate “ change when climate has to be measured over a much more lengthy time frame than a year or two.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401403)

The beauty of science is that it is never "settled" completely. True science isn't corrupt. But, certain groups or individuals may misrepresent, distort, hide, misuse the results of scientific enquiry. Science is the search for truth. Nothing more. Nothing sinister. But many want to hide the truth for many, many reasons, criminal, political, religious, etc. Don't blame science, blame the ones who misuse it.

Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2401275)

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Warming is happening but man cannot change it without messing things up. That is the one thing we excel at.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2401404)

Except for all the man made pollution going into the atmosphere for the last 150 years or so.

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2401295)

And some of use are smart enough to understand there’s no way man has NOT contributed to climate change. I remember when they stopped making aerosol deodorants due to depletion of the ozone layer. Yes, the climate is always changing but also yes man has contributed to things getting more severe.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2401395)

Nicely stated. If the scientists of most reputable institutions all say the same thing they are probably right unless advances in knowledge bring new things to light . Common sense.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2401311)

Man has contributed to extinction of about everything for greed. They bulldozed land to plant crops, they killed of animals for trophies, they killed their fellow humans for land and control. So why not kill off weather? No other animals can have profound effect of planet earth. Maybe population reduction would be better investment than trying to tilt earth axis?