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jimjamuser 01-14-2025 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401416)
Truth. Certainly population reduction could make a difference. The question is, how? That is a subject for another thread.

Compare the graphs of world population and world temperatures.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-14-2025 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2401310)
I think to sit on the sideline and do nothing if man has a chance to reverse the cycle of climate change would be a failure. In the past 50 years we've gone from land lines to cell phone, we've gone from earth bound to space. With the aid of A.I. there might be a solution of how to control the climate.

We can't "reverse" the cycle. At the absolute best, we can slow it down a bit so the next planetary shift doesn't wipe us out in 50,000, but instead maybe in 55,000 years. If we had started during the Age of Agriculture and been better stewards of the planet, maybe we could've prevented the CURRENT situation from being as extreme, and as frequent, and for as long a period per series of events. But we couldn't have stopped it.

Planets are born to die. It's simply what they do. It can take millions of years but eventually they conk out. Our planet is no different. It is in the process of dying. It won't happen in the next 10,000 years. But we will see new "tricks" of nature that we might not have seen before.

jimjamuser 01-14-2025 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2401451)
There have not been any serious volcanic eruptions causing widespread changes in the weather for quite a while. And they usually make things colder. Krakatoa in 1883, for example, was a very strong volcanic explosion. And it had done that before as well.

The melting of glaciers in Antarctica could uncover a lot of volcanoes in about 50 years.

fdpaq0580 01-14-2025 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2401453)
CORRECTION TO MY LAST POSTING

I’ve always believed all humans had a natural can-do attitude built in their DNA, but I am starting to realize I was wrong, there seem to be a number of humans that have a can’t do attitude.
When it comes to climate change many will say do nothing and let nature takes it course. For those who truly believe we should not try to harness our own destiny and leave everything to nature, imagine yourself living in a cave, wearing animal skins for clothing and having to forage for food every day. Thanks for early human that were NOT satisfied with what nature dealt them.

Agree! Our weakness is that in trying to improve our lot, we didn’t know enough to see far enough ahead where we could forsee the problems we created along the way. Now we know the mistakes that were made, but some don't want to acknowledge humanities responsibilities. They, like a hit and run driver, are afraid of having to take the blame.

ithos 01-14-2025 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401482)
WOW! A worldwide mega conspiracy. Now that is "scaremongering". Lions, Tigers and bears, oh my, and now global anti-science conspiracy? Welcome to the Matrix.

These are just a few that took only a couple of minutes to find. There are many more examples but based on your unserious and disrespectful response, it is obvious that in any dialogue with you, logic, reason and facts would be of no use.

Professor fired after expressing climate change skepticism | Fox News
Nicholas Drapela, Professor And Climate Change Denier, Fired From Oregon State University | HuffPost College
Grapevine: Prof fired for calling global warming unproven science | Fox News
Access to this page has been denied.
EXCLUSIVE: Prof Fired For Calling Global Warming ‘Unproved Science’ Stands Firm | The College Fix
https://www.chronicle.com/article/st...ing-crossfire/
https://cornwallalliance.org/what-ha...ate-orthodoxy/

fdpaq0580 01-14-2025 05:07 PM

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To those who might care, I repost what I found last year. It was as accurate as is reasonable for layman dialog. With the increase in population and other human related activities, I expect the 2024 data to be slightly greater than that of 2023.

"AI Overview
According to current data, the Earth's temperature rose by approximately 2.12 deg F above the 20th century average in 2023, making it the warmest year on record, with the majority of this warming attributed to human-caused CO2 emissions; however, pinpointing the exact amount of warming directly caused by man-made CO2 in a single year is complex and depends on various factors, including the overall increase of all greenhouse gases and the Earth's natural climate variability."

sounding 01-14-2025 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2401464)
2024 is the worldwide warmest on record (since temperatures were recorded). And the last 10 years are the warmest 10 on record. The fact that they are recent and increasing should SCARE everyone. They are numbers that can't be denied - even by climate deniers.

People have been repeatedly misled into believing the 2023/24 global warming spike is the work of CO2, but that's totally false. The heat spike is due to the Hunga Tonga volcano -- which is explained in detail at the Weather Club.

sounding 01-14-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401503)
(Dingaling) My audible notification
To those who might care, I repost what I found last year. It was as accurate as is reasonable for layman dialog. With the increase in population and other human related activities, I expect the 2024 data to be slightly greater than that of 2023.

"AI Overview
According to current data, the Earth's temperature rose by approximately 2.12 deg F above the 20th century average in 2023, making it the warmest year on record, with the majority of this warming attributed to human-caused CO2 emissions; however, pinpointing the exact amount of warming directly caused by man-made CO2 in a single year is complex and depends on various factors, including the overall increase of all greenhouse gases and the Earth's natural climate variability."

AI = Artificial Ignorance. The 2023/24 warming spike is Tonga-caused -- not CO2 or Methane.

fdpaq0580 01-14-2025 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2401510)
AI = Artificial Ignorance. The 2023/24 warming spike is Tonga-caused -- not CO2 or Methane.

Wait and see.
Meanwhile, the AI Overview is just that, an overview of all scientific data. It does not stand alone as the expert. It is simply an overview of all pertinent data provided by scientific journals, factors, papers, reports, etc. You know, stuff the real experts put out, as in data, facts and figures. You dismis it because it doesn't tell a story you like. That's fine. Don't believe it, don't accept it. The truth doesn't change whether we believe it or not.

jimjamuser 01-14-2025 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2401508)
People have been repeatedly misled into believing the 2023/24 global warming spike is the work of CO2, but that's totally false. The heat spike is due to the Hunga Tonga volcano -- which is explained in detail at the Weather Club.

Oh Tonga, Tonga, Tonga - form a Tonga line. As I stated last Spring ( before 2 climate change enhanced hurricanes damaged Florida) Climate Scientists at first thought that Tonga would warm the Earth. Later they came to the conclusion that it had little or no effect. Plus it is now 3 years in our rear view mirror. No climate scientists care about it anymore - they decided NOT to beat a dead Tonga horse.
.........Plus 2024 was the warmest on the planet. And there is no "spike". It is a gradual warming trend which increased greatly in the last 10 years. The heating is GRADUAL (as in no spike) and the result of excess CO2 forming a layer in the upper atmosphere and reflecting (refracting) some of the suns heat BACK to the Earth. Automobiles exhaust and burning coal by the increased world human population of the last 10 or 15 years PRODUCES CO2 so MASSIVE that the world's oceans can no longer absorb it all. So it drifts up into the upper atmosphere and forms a heat reflective layer - that was not present 15 or 20 years ago. Also,the excess CO2 in the ocean has killed coral reefs.

jimjamuser 01-14-2025 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2401510)
AI = Artificial Ignorance. The 2023/24 warming spike is Tonga-caused -- not CO2 or Methane.

People should look at a graph of temperature increase worldwide for the last 10 or 15 years. There is no SPIKE. Just a gradual increase as world population and therefore CO2 has increased.

jimjamuser 01-14-2025 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2401510)
AI = Artificial Ignorance. The 2023/24 warming spike is Tonga-caused -- not CO2 or Methane.

I believe that I would bet on A. I. when it comes to the role that CO2 plays in Global Warming.

jimjamuser 01-14-2025 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401525)
Wait and see.
Meanwhile, the AI Overview is just that, an overview of all scientific data. It does not stand alone as the expert. It is simply an overview of all pertinent data provided by scientific journals, factors, papers, reports, etc. You know, stuff the real experts put out, as in data, facts and figures. You dismis it because it doesn't tell a story you like. That's fine. Don't believe it, don't accept it. The truth doesn't change whether we believe it or not.

I agree !!!!!

JMintzer 01-14-2025 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2401381)
Thanks for the info. Goal achieved, it seems. Such fun!

And look how many people just had to jump in and add to the post stirring with the same old tired arguments...

JMintzer 01-14-2025 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2401395)
Nicely stated. If the scientists of most reputable institutions all say the same thing they are probably right unless advances in knowledge bring new things to light . Common sense.

I think you meant to say "scientists of the most well funded institutions who will lose their funding if they dare stray from the party line"...

Common sense...


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