Originally Posted by Guest

Good post.

Let me explain something. And I recall you from the past...this is BUCCO....and you and I are not normally on the same wavelength, BUT I came back to post for TWO reasons..

1. I find the election of Trump or Clinton to be terrible. I voted third party, but after watching a man who I have followed for years simply manipulate people, set a new low for lying, I need to vent.

2. When I first returned here I found a few things. People who I once respected, I find are total hypocrites. When I was on TOTV in the past, they touted morals, honesty and character and now simply the opposite. The other thing I found were uninformed extremist simply taking over this place. It seems un managed, but while I would consider a discussion of policy issues and accept any side, these are extremists that appear to represent the alt right group. I was anti Obama...I probably criticized him more than anyone, especially in his first campaign, but my heart is not so filled with such hate as these people, and as much as I can, I will not allow hate filled rhetoric, based on this Trump character.

These people know nothing. All they can do whenever you bring something up is attack Clinton or Obama, neither of whom are around in office any longer. They will defend Trump using whatever means...truth is not an option....but mostly they just keep making false, needless, passe claims. They. Like Trump cannot get past the campaign and rehash at every opportunity.

PS...,.hope this finds you in good health ������

Sure, you are right up there with Billy Graham and the Pope. Why not be honest and quit with the false indignity?

Why do we doubt you? Well, you start off almost every post with you being a conservative. Then you set about posting liberal talking points regarding Trump. Why do we bring up Obama and Clinton? Because as long as you keep talking impeachment, his morals because he said something that you are probably just as guilty of saying, over a decade ago, and assuming he has a relationship with Putin, then he will be compared with Obama and Clinton. Bill Clinton will also be brought into the fray, as well as any other scumbag liberal that is Anti-American.

Instead of talking policies, you liberals (yes Republicans are liberals also) you want to disparage the president on a personal level.

Several posters on here have claimed to be registered Republicans or conservatives and then go about giving us the same lowlife liberal talking points that prove otherwise. Funny thing is that one poster that I will not name but I have learned quite a bit about once he decided to pursue me on a personal level to the point of almost stalking, really is registered as a Republican. And he also rides with the radical left on here.

But, it's no big deal. I came on here originally to discuss politics in a civil manner, and got attacked for it. Now I give back as much if not more than I receive. But, I am tiring of the diverting from subject and have started spending more time with my hobbies and less time on here. My injuries have healed to the point where I can go back to a more active lifestyle and less goofing off on the computer. I plan to spend less time on here and more time with other activities, so that's why none of this bothers me much anymore. Trump won and I am satisfied that America has been somewhat steered away from the cliff that we were headed for. Maybe socialism and communism has been averted for a while longer. It's not about winning but about AMerica. Not about who steers but where they want to aim us. It will be nice if we can get back on the road again. America is not operating with power steering. It's taking a long time to turn this great vehicle. It going to take some rough riding and some big bumps to get us back on the road to recovery.

And I do not have to like Trump to support him. I like what he is doing and what he says are his intentions for America. So far he is living up to my expectations.

Originally Posted by Guest

Good post.

Let me explain something. And I recall you from the past...this is BUCCO....and you and I are not normally on the same wavelength, BUT I came back to post for TWO reasons..

1. I find the election of Trump or Clinton to be terrible. I voted third party, but after watching a man who I have followed for years simply manipulate people, set a new low for lying, I need to vent.

2. When I first returned here I found a few things. People who I once respected, I find are total hypocrites. When I was on TOTV in the past, they touted morals, honesty and character and now simply the opposite. The other thing I found were uninformed extremist simply taking over this place. It seems un managed, but while I would consider a discussion of policy issues and accept any side, these are extremists that appear to represent the alt right group. I was anti Obama...I probably criticized him more than anyone, especially in his first campaign, but my heart is not so filled with such hate as these people, and as much as I can, I will not allow hate filled rhetoric, based on this Trump character.

These people know nothing. All they can do whenever you bring something up is attack Clinton or Obama, neither of whom are around in office any longer. They will defend Trump using whatever means...truth is not an option....but mostly they just keep making false, needless, passe claims. They. Like Trump cannot get past the campaign and rehash at every opportunity.

PS...,.hope this finds you in good health ������

Hi there, it is very good to hear from you! I wondered where you went. I am in reasonably good health and I made it to retirement!!!
You are very right about this site now, I remember well are discussion about Obamacare. Of course we were on opposite sides, but we discussed it, understood and respected each other positions. I miss that here.

I hope you keep posting!

Originally Posted by Guest

Sure, you are right up there with Billy Graham and the Pope. Why not be honest and quit with the false indignity?

Why do we doubt you? Well, you start off almost every post with you being a conservative. Then you set about posting liberal talking points regarding Trump. Why do we bring up Obama and Clinton? Because as long as you keep talking impeachment, his morals because he said something that you are probably just as guilty of saying, over a decade ago, and assuming he has a relationship with Putin, then he will be compared with Obama and Clinton. Bill Clinton will also be brought into the fray, as well as any other scumbag liberal that is Anti-American.

Instead of talking policies, you liberals (yes Republicans are liberals also) you want to disparage the president on a personal level.

Several posters on here have claimed to be registered Republicans or conservatives and then go about giving us the same lowlife liberal talking points that prove otherwise. Funny thing is that one poster that I will not name but I have learned quite a bit about once he decided to pursue me on a personal level to the point of almost stalking, really is registered as a Republican. And he also rides with the radical left on here.

But, it's no big deal. I came on here originally to discuss politics in a civil manner, and got attacked for it. Now I give back as much if not more than I receive. But, I am tiring of the diverting from subject and have started spending more time with my hobbies and less time on here. My injuries have healed to the point where I can go back to a more active lifestyle and less goofing off on the computer. I plan to spend less time on here and more time with other activities, so that's why none of this bothers me much anymore. Trump won and I am satisfied that America has been somewhat steered away from the cliff that we were headed for. Maybe socialism and communism has been averted for a while longer. It's not about winning but about AMerica. Not about who steers but where they want to aim us. It will be nice if we can get back on the road again. America is not operating with power steering. It's taking a long time to turn this great vehicle. It going to take some rough riding and some big bumps to get us back on the road to recovery.

And I do not have to like Trump to support him. I like what he is doing and what he says are his intentions for America. So far he is living up to my expectations.

Thanks for validating BUCCO'S point so quickly, great job!

Originally Posted by Guest

No one admits to voting for Hillary, yet many insist she won "the popular vote." Like that means something substantial.

Perhaps you misread my post...so I will repeat what I said:

I DID NOT WANT HILLARY TO RUN BECAUSE SHE HAD TO MUCH BAGGAGE!

I did NOT say I didn't vote for her. When I couldn't vote for CARTER I voted for Reagan...
At least he was reasonable TRUMP not so much!

Originally Posted by Guest

Thanks for validating BUCCO'S point so quickly, great job!

I was thinking the exact same thing!


I'll bet MLGBT doesn't see the irony though.

Originally Posted by Guest

Hi there, it is very good to hear from you! I wondered where you went. I am in reasonably good health and I made it to retirement!!!
You are very right about this site now, I remember well are discussion about Obamacare. Of course we were on opposite sides, but we discussed it, understood and respected each other positions. I miss that here.

I hope you keep posting!

Oh I intend to.

I envision most of these posters...the extreme alt right, sitting in a basement somewhere sneaking time on the computer. I know that's not true, but that is the image they portray.

Yeah, I recall those days where folks like you and I could be on opposite sides, but respect each other, motivate each other to read even more to confirm our thoughts and present them without preaching.

There are a few posters on here from those days, but from what I see...well, thinking if only 3 right now, but they are hypocrites of the highest degree. They would join folks like me extolling truthfulness, moral character, etc., and if you recall..I was a leader in talking about Obamas relationships wit Wright, studies of Alinsky, etc.

Now, the hypocrites who joined me just do not care about a liar if such epic proportions, when you lay it out it doesn't even seem possible, don't care about his associations with the mob, don't care if he screwed every woman on the planet, etc. A man who adopted the alt right, appointed people like Bannon and Flynn to his staff...well, Alinsky and Wright sound pretty darn tame.

Those same hypocrites do not see what he is doing to our country...have the President of the United States look into American citizens eyes and just lie is scary..

You and I probably still have our basic differences, except for this man in the WH.

These folks pass him off as some sort of change maker. He is not even close, and I suppose he simply allowed them to openly hate.

This is a take over by Bannon and his ilk. They have their poster boy, are good at communicating and not say anything.

Folks on here do not read the international press...but then again it is all fake unless it is good for you, but if they did, they would understand...

Well, let's say it this way....as you well know, I opposed Obama and strenuously. But hearing this punk say what a mess he inherited, when I recall being in here discussing our dire financial situation in 2008, the numerous wars going on, etc. and while I literally did not like Obama policies, this is not a mess.

Back to these extreme folks on here...they do not respect facts, only 3 things..whatever Trump says...hate for Clinton...and hate for Obama.

Frankly, I get angry that these posters are so uninformed, I am end up defending Obama ! And you know I do not want to do that 😊

Originally Posted by Guest

Perhaps you misread my post...so I will repeat what I said:

I DID NOT WANT HILLARY TO RUN BECAUSE SHE HAD TO MUCH BAGGAGE!

I did NOT say I didn't vote for her. When I couldn't vote for CARTER I voted for Reagan...
At least he was reasonable TRUMP not so much!

You seem to be confused. Perhaps you do not know exactly which candidate that you voted for. You said you did not want to vote for Hillary so you voted for Hillary. I do not know why you are attempting to convince me of something, your vote or your non-vote? Oh well, perhaps you need a break from all of this tough stuff.

Oh yeah, your old liberal enemy "Puff" remembers how you were so against Obamma...this stuff gets funnier by the minute!

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Originally Posted by Guest

Oh I intend to.

I envision most of these posters...the extreme alt right, sitting in a basement somewhere sneaking time on the computer. I know that's not true, but that is the image they portray.

Yeah, I recall those days where folks like you and I could be on opposite sides, but respect each other, motivate each other to read even more to confirm our thoughts and present them without preaching.

There are a few posters on here from those days, but from what I see...well, thinking if only 3 right now, but they are hypocrites of the highest degree. They would join folks like me extolling truthfulness, moral character, etc., and if you recall..I was a leader in talking about Obamas relationships wit Wright, studies of Alinsky, etc.

Now, the hypocrites who joined me just do not care about a liar if such epic proportions, when you lay it out it doesn't even seem possible, don't care about his associations with the mob, don't care if he screwed every woman on the planet, etc. A man who adopted the alt right, appointed people like Bannon and Flynn to his staff...well, Alinsky and Wright sound pretty darn tame.

Those same hypocrites do not see what he is doing to our country...have the President of the United States look into American citizens eyes and just lie is scary..

You and I probably still have our basic differences, except for this man in the WH.

These folks pass him off as some sort of change maker. He is not even close, and I suppose he simply allowed them to openly hate.

This is a take over by Bannon and his ilk. They have their poster boy, are good at communicating and not say anything.

Folks on here do not read the international press...but then again it is all fake unless it is good for you, but if they did, they would understand...

Well, let's say it this way....as you well know, I opposed Obama and strenuously. But hearing this punk say what a mess he inherited, when I recall being in here discussing our dire financial situation in 2008, the numerous wars going on, etc. and while I literally did not like Obama policies, this is not a mess.

Back to these extreme folks on here...they do not respect facts, only 3 things..whatever Trump says...hate for Clinton...and hate for Obama.

Frankly, I get angry that these posters are so uninformed, I am end up defending Obama ! And you know I do not want to do that 😊

You must be confused too. Seems like many on here are confused. You insist that you do not like this or that, and then use half a page to justify your position. You say that you do not want to defend Obama. Ok, so don't. You say we are all ignorant and uninformed for voting for Trump. That we do not know anything about him and that he must be evil. I noticed that you did not say anything about Hillary. I wonder if you voted for her. Since you are all knowing and know everything about Trump, I assume you also know everything about Hillary. So, I know you would not be able to vote for her. So, you said you voted third party. And we know how that went. That means you probably either voted for the dope head or the tree hugger. Little difference.

You have a right to be critical of Trump. But, you decided that you are far superior than those on here that voted "ignorantly" for Trump. Sorry, but you lost credibility when you admitted to voting for the loser.

So, next I expect that you will attempt to say that Trump is a bad guy and that he says bad things. OK, we know that. We also know that he has run on and is attempting to do what we elected him for. He is the hardest worker the White House has seen in decades. He may not be nice, but I don't care if I like him or not as long as he does what I elected him to do. And he is doing it. So, disparage him all you wish and be corrected when you are wrong, but you are arrogantly showing your @ss by disparaging those that support him. Maybe those that voted for him, had to hold their noses to vote. Maybe we voted for his policies not his personality. Maybe some of us voted against the felon Hillary and did not want her to win at all cost.

Originally Posted by Guest

You seem to be confused. Perhaps you do not know exactly which candidate that you voted for. You said you did not want to vote for Hillary so you voted for Hillary. I do not know why you are attempting to convince me of something, your vote or your non-vote? Oh well, perhaps you need a break from all of this tough stuff.

I am most definitely NOT confused! I did not want Hillary to run for President because she had to much baggage. All I could see is the endless investigations. But she did run and the Republicans ran someone for whom I could not vote.

So I voted for Hillary....

Originally Posted by Guest

I am most definitely NOT confused! I did not want Hillary to run for President because she had to much baggage. All I could see is the endless investigations. But she did run and the Republicans ran someone for whom I could not vote.

So I voted for Hillary....

There you go. Now, don't you feel much better getting that out in the open.
So, you knew she was a felon and that she was likely instrumental in getting Americans killed. You knew that she was a pathological liar and a thief. You knew that she had/has a scam going with her charities and a pay to play scheme. You knew that she voted for the sale of 20% of the world's uranium to Russia. You now say that Russia is evil and that Trump has a relationship with the evil Putin. I guess now you realize that Hillary had more of a relationship with Russia than Trump. So, even though Hillary is a criminal felon waiting to be prosecuted, you voted for her.

You just can't make this kind of stupidity up. You didn't want to vote for Hillary but someone made you do it. Could that someone have been the Devil, as in "the Devil made me do it"?