2023 Yamaha gas golf cart - Battery Drain

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Old 01-22-2024, 09:29 AM
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I have a 2023 Yamaha gas golf cart bought from the Villages. I’ve had three recent instances in which the battery has drained and left me stranded. The cart does have those LED strip lights on the side that run whenever the cart is on. In each of the three cases, I’ve connected a small battery charger (not a battery tender) which charges it back up to full strength in about 24-48 hours using the low-power mode.

After this third time, I called the service department to schedule service. They mentioned to me that if I’m not driving it near daily for at least five miles, the cart doesn’t have enough time to fully recharge the battery. I live close to a championship course and just doing a round of 18 ( stop, start, stop, start )isn’t enough time to recharge the battery. Seems a bit strange to get such advice from the service department, as I’m picturing every cart barn at any club would just be full of carts sitting around on battery chargers every night.

It’s getting more difficult to be able to trust the cart won’t leave me stranded. I’m tempted to take it back and ask them to put those running lights on a [on/off] switch to minimize the drain.

What are others doing? Is this normal? How often do you connect your battery tender?

Thank you in advance. :-)

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Old 01-22-2024, 09:39 AM
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My 2023 has been sitting in the garage since September. It’s driven for 5-10 minutes once per month and it hasn’t drained the battery. Also it should have a quick disconnect on the battery that you just turn. That will help if you aren’t driving it much. Our salesperson showed us this.
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Old 01-22-2024, 09:51 AM
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Need to load test the battery and see if you any drain while it’s setting. Also probably need to check volts when engine running. I find that story hard to believe also. This device will tell you exactly what you’re battery doing.

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If all else fails to find anything get bigger (CCA) battery. I sure they put the cheapest one they could buy in cart.

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Old 01-22-2024, 09:55 AM
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Sounds like you have a parasitic drain happening somewhere in your your system. I had one on our car a couple years back. Found out of all things it was the car's radio console intermittently coming on. The radio itself was still off but the console was shorted. I found it and replaced it.
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Old 01-22-2024, 09:58 AM
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The lights won't drain the battery unless they are on. In your garage they ought to be off so not a problem.

I can imagine you might have a problem if:
- You live close to the course and don't drive far to get there
- You do a lot of stopping and starting with only a short distance in between (like on a golf course)
- You leave the key on the whole time

With the key on, the headlights or running lights will be on using some small amount of charge. Every time you start moving the starter motor uses some amount of charge to get the cart moving. If you only drive a short distance the amount of charge put back into the battery would be less than what is taken out - over time you lose ground.

If that is what is happening then over a matter of time (a month maybe?) the battery will eventually lose enough charge that it will not start.

Going for a longer drive or attaching a charger occasionally should help.

You might also want to check the voltage at the battery, it should be higher when the engine is running. If it is not higher then that would be an indication that the charging circuit is not working correctly which would also explain why it loses charge over time. Hopefully, this is not the problem but it should be covered by warranty if it is.
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evfan, a lot of good advice so far. To expand a little, check the small belt to the starter/generator and make sure it is tight. Next if you have a digital meter, set for 20 VDC and connect to the battery terminals should read close to 12.5 VDC, place the golf cart in neutral, and start the cart, at medium RPM, the voltage should go to 14.5 VDC for charging. Final test, disconnect the positive battery lead, set your digital meter for AMPS start at the 5 to 2 amp range, and connect the meter between the battery positive terminal and the positive battery lead, if you get a reading you have a parasitic load. Start removing the fuses one at a time until you find the source of the drain. The repair of the parasitic drain will depend on what is causing it.
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Yes, I have the same problem. My cart from Golf Cars at Sumter Landing after 2 years has 40 hours on it. I Ieave it on a trickle charger when I am not in TV but something is draining the battery and I want them to take whatever it is that’s doing that off. I can’t be a slave to driving my cart enough each day just to make sure I don’t get stranded.
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THE VILLAGE TINKER IS SPOT ON.... my guess is, it could be anything from a bad relay to
bad starter switch... Let us know after you find the problem...
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Mine sits in the garage for months at a time, and starts fine.

A month ago, wife left the key on and the lights drained the battery.

I have this
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I connected to battery, and drove around for about 30 minutes. It’s been fine since.

BTW, I also love this product to fill tires with air every 6 months.
My tires should be at 36 PSI, some were under 20.

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I can’t believe that they wouldn’t have you come in so they can check it out. It must be still under warranty. Another thought is the alternator or what ever charges the battery. Once or twice our battery was low after it was sitting but I just connected a jump start battery and drove to charge the battery. I would definitely insist on an appointment, everything here is good advice but why should you do it if it is under warranty.
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That happened in our Club Car and it was the radio. There is a non switched hot wire that constantly runs power to the unit to keep the stored radio channels in memory. I disconnected the wire and problem solved. Now we simply have to manually tune the radio. As already mentioned, if you don’t have a radio, there could be several other electrical issues causing either the drain, or lack of charge. The cart obviously should be immediately covered under warranty unless you have done wiring on it yourself since purchasing. Best of luck.
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As a couple others have said, we have a 2023 Quietech and our Home Watch service takes it for a short drive every other week. It starts right up each time. I don't think it's normal that your battery is draining that way. Good luck.
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Our 2023 quiet tech is doing the same thing. Went away for the weekend and came back it won’t start. This is the third time.

Mine also came from the villages. I Just called and told me if I don’t drive it every day battery needs to be kept on a trickle charger.

My 2006 and 2016 Yamaha, can sit for weeks on end and start right away. We have neighbors with the same issues drive daily or no start. There has to be something going on for all of these carts to Need to be driven daily or it won’t start.
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki View Post
Mine sits int he garage for months at a time, and starts fine.

A month ago, wife left the key on and the lights drained the battery.

I have this
Amazon.com

I connected to battery, and drove around for about 30 minutes. It’s been fine since.

BTW, I also love this product to fill tires with air every 6 months.
My tires should be at 36 PSI, some were under 20.

36?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_lecki View Post
Mine sits int he garage for months at a time, and starts fine.

A month ago, wife left the key on and the lights drained the battery.

I have this
Amazon.com

I connected to battery, and drove around for about 30 minutes. It’s been fine since.

BTW, I also love this product to fill tires with air every 6 months.
My tires should be at 36 PSI, some were under 20.
The Yamaha owners manual states 22 PSI, if you are looking at the side of the tires, this is the MAX pressure, not the recommended pressure, and at 36 PSI your tires are going to wear out prematurely.
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