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Old 09-22-2014, 09:17 AM
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I purchased a Star Cart 6 month ago. The cart is wonderful. I love it and the range on batteries are great. Never had an issue and there staff is awesome. Very kind and friendly.
I would totally recommend Star Car
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Well it appears I have a bad cell in one battery that is 26 months old and less than 200 hours .

I have charged , used the battery minder, replaced water, etc as prescribed.

Par Car wants to replace all the batteries for around $ 1100. bucks, a little costly in my mind.

200 hours on a set of batteries is not going to get it and neither is battery cost of $550. per year.

Any good ideas on where I can get good batteries ? I currently have Interstate.

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Old 12-15-2014, 06:33 PM
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That is a bummer for sure, 26 months is too short a time and unacceptable.

You could try to extend the pack by buying one two year old battery as a replacement, but it would take much more info about the other 7 batteries to know if worth it.

My last pack of 8 consisted of Trojan T105s purchased from Spano on 2/17/2010 for $771.76.

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Had a 2007 Par Car. A battery and repair nightmare. Once out of the warranty I had $2500 in repairs too numerous to detail. Not the most pleasant service department to deal with. The worst thing about an electric cart is when the batteries start loosing "strength" you start loosing range/distance. Should I go to Havana and use the cart because I may have trouble getting home (1 1/2 years after battery replacement). When the batteries were new I could do that trip and have just under 1/2 a charge left. Went to a Yamaha gas cart 3 years ago and now all I do is put in gas a couple times a month with no worries about distance since I get 240 miles on a tank.
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Got a 2007. On the second set of batteries counting the original batteries and, the original on-board charger.
We have a 2006 Par Car. We've replaced our batteries once. We can golf, go out to dinner, and still have lots of power left. Our Par Car has never needed any kind of maintenance. I'm a huge fan of Par Cars.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:27 AM
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There have been many studies on the cost per mile between gas and electric carts. There are so many variables that every one can and does cause lots of questions. Cost per gallon of gas used, how many batteries, cost of batteries, what number of miles were used, cost of electricity, how old are the batteries, who was driving, type of driving, trade in value, annual maintenance, and as many more that you can think of.

However every study I have seen and I am sure it is a small number compared to the total number out there, gas always has come out slightly cheaper per mile. Not enough to cause any of us to buy for that reason only, but still always cheaper.

So all the talk about cost me so much a year vs cost of gas is meaningless. The biggest difference between the two types is how quiet you want and how much range you want. Those are really the only two factors that matter.

I have one of each and like them both. Love the quiet of the electric. Love the no worries range of the gas. Most carts you see being towed are electric and in most cases, the cause was operator error.
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There have been many studies on the cost per mile between gas and electric carts. There are so many variables that every one can and does cause lots of questions. Cost per gallon of gas used, how many batteries, cost of batteries, what number of miles were used, cost of electricity, how old are the batteries, who was driving, type of driving, trade in value, annual maintenance, and as many more that you can think of.

However every study I have seen and I am sure it is a small number compared to the total number out there, gas always has come out slightly cheaper per mile. Not enough to cause any of us to buy for that reason only, but still always cheaper.

So all the talk about cost me so much a year vs cost of gas is meaningless. The biggest difference between the two types is how quiet you want and how much range you want. Those are really the only two factors that matter.

I have one of each and like them both. Love the quiet of the electric. Love the no worries range of the gas. Most carts you see being towed are electric and in most cases, the cause was operator error.

We do too, and I so agree. The electric one is a Par Car and we find it excellent. Our Gas Yamaha is my favorite.
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I had the battery on my car die recently. It was not quite 3 yrs old and it was a 48 month battery. When I brought my new battery at Sams Club the guy installing the new one told me that the extreme heat down in Fl will kill them quicker. Could be the same with golf carts. Just saying.
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I had the battery on my car die recently. It was not quite 3 yrs old and it was a 48 month battery. When I brought my new battery at Sams Club the guy installing the new one told me that the extreme heat down in Fl will kill them quicker. Could be the same with golf carts. Just saying.
I was told the same thing about heat being hard on your batteries. Long story short: We go north every summer and my electric sit in the hot garage so after replacing the batteries twice in three years I agreed that the heat was "killing" them and bought a gas cart the next time around. Too much trouble to do anything else.

The newer gas models are quiter and do not smell like the older ones.
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We do too, and I so agree. The electric one is a Par Car and we find it excellent.
Took delivery of our Par Car in October and will take delivery of our Star EV the beginning of January. We are fans of electric and don't feel range is compromised. I don't want to spend that much time in a golf cart and I don't plan on taking it to Daytona or Disney....so for us, 240 miles from a gas cart is range overkill. Plug them in every night, battery minder when we are gone for more than a couple weeks and I suspect we will be ok. However, if I ever do want to go the Daytona or Disney I might consider gas. Before we moved here we would be card carrying snowbirds and always rented gas carts. I only mention that as we didn't go electric without experience with gas and lot of conversations with owners of both.
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The newer gas models are quiter and do not smell like the older ones.
I recently looked at brand new gas carts at The Villages Golf Carts.
I said to the salesman "I hear the newer carts don't smell like the older ones".
He said "Oh yes they do, but you don't have to worry about it. It's the people behind you that will smell it".
I wasn't impressed with the sales pitch.
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If the price ever goes down, lithium-ion batteries in electric carts will be the way to go.
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:36 PM
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In my experience that is true - 3 to 4 years for a car battery. An exception might be AGM batteries, which seem to last a long time. The one is my Miata went about 9 years.


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I had the battery on my car die recently. It was not quite 3 yrs old and it was a 48 month battery. When I brought my new battery at Sams Club the guy installing the new one told me that the extreme heat down in Fl will kill them quicker. Could be the same with golf carts. Just saying.
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