[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by bshuler

The main reason I wanted an electric Yamaha is to get an independent Rear suspension.

Now I am thinking there are gas models with independent rear suspension?

Yes, the Yamaha Drive 2 GAS carts have independent rear suspension.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Yamaha AV receivers had huge input capacitance so when cranked up, the lights in the room would flicker with the beat of the kettle drums.

TVGC don't carry the Yamaha AC carts because 105ah battery is not large enough and you are stuck at 19.5 MPH unless you put larger diameter wheels on it which requires a lift kit. I suspect not enough takers so TVGC won't sell them. The 8x6V lead-acid is good for about 60 miles but lead-acid is so 200 years ago.

That brings up the question of what should the legal top speed of ANY cart in The Villages be? You would think that Golf Carts all having the SAME top speed would make for greater SAFETY for all Cart users here.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

It's all about the seats............ EL Tigre is the best seats made.....look up on internet..
not manufacturers so called premium or luxury seats......save your ass and check the internet....electric motors will last for 20 years, gas good for 5, before issues, too many moving parts, just look at all the used gas for sale, usually 4-5 years old, passing the problems on, gas too loud, electric can hear yourself think and talk to passenger...........you are on the right track, just not Yamaha, like I said, they have bugs to work out........

I think that one BIG factor in GAS carts wearing out fast is that people jack up their speed controller and drive around at 30 MPH. I can hear those that have changed their speed controller because you can hear that they are louder. And you can smell the excess unburned gasoline. I don't understand why the Police don't hand out tickets and control this speeding? Anyone buying an older gas Golf Cart needs to be sure that the owner has NOT fiddled with the accelerator.

[SHIBUMI]

Police do hand out tickets to speeders, BUT, not on multi modal pathways, only on the streets. They do have jurisdiction there. I have seen this a couple of times........

Maybe we should form a civilian on patrol group to monitor the speeders and hand out tickets? Probably would be plenty of volunteers.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I think that one BIG factor in GAS carts wearing out fast is that people jack up their speed controller and drive around at 30 MPH. I can hear those that have changed their speed controller because you can hear that they are louder. And you can smell the excess unburned gasoline. I don't understand why the Police don't hand out tickets and control this speeding? Anyone buying an older gas Golf Cart needs to be sure that the owner has NOT fiddled with the accelerator.

[mrf6969]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Perhaps I was not clear. I have a gang of Yamaha stuff (gas cart, gas outboard motor, gas Jetski). The "Problem" I was referring to is they are great manufacturers but they are not at the vanguard of feature innovation. The "Problem" is that I want a Yamaha lithium 4-front facing concierge but they are not running point on installing lithium batts in their carts.

I have no problem with Yamaha's quality.

Here is an idea, buy an older Yamaha 4 forward and build one as you want. It's only money.

[biker1]

No. My Yamaha gas cart is 10 years old and is without any issues. It has over 2000 hours on the engine and close to 40K miles. Yamaha warranties the engine for 5000 hours (essentially 80K miles) if you use Yamalube and follow their maintenance schedule. There is some small print but they obviously think the engine will last a long time. You can cherry pick and probably find some example of a premature engine failure but that is true for almost any consumer item, include a premature electric motor failure in an electric golf cart. BTW, I have both a gas golf cart and an electric golf cart.

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

It's all about the seats............ EL Tigre is the best seats made.....look up on internet..
not manufacturers so called premium or luxury seats......save your ass and check the internet....electric motors will last for 20 years, gas good for 5, before issues, too many moving parts, just look at all the used gas for sale, usually 4-5 years old, passing the problems on, gas too loud, electric can hear yourself think and talk to passenger...........you are on the right track, just not Yamaha, like I said, they have bugs to work out........

[biker1]

Please provide some data regarding gas carts wearing out prematurely.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I think that one BIG factor in GAS carts wearing out fast is that people jack up their speed controller and drive around at 30 MPH. I can hear those that have changed their speed controller because you can hear that they are louder. And you can smell the excess unburned gasoline. I don't understand why the Police don't hand out tickets and control this speeding? Anyone buying an older gas Golf Cart needs to be sure that the owner has NOT fiddled with the accelerator.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I don't understand why the Police don't hand out tickets and control this speeding? Anyone buying an older gas Golf Cart needs to be sure that the owner has NOT fiddled with the accelerator.

It might be because, due to a myriad of causation factors I won't delve into here, our streets are open-air drug and crime dens. With greater seriousness crimes being committed with more regularity, homelessness, and housing affordability issues facing us as a society, there are somethings requiring a higher priority than putting a hard-to-find-and-hire police officer with a ticket book on a privately owned multi-modal path.

As for your secondary concern, how about this: A buyer of a used cart (or a car or anything since you have stated you don't have or intend to obtain a cart) practice due diligence and have it inspected for concerns prior to purchase?

That is the fundamental difference in perspective: Some believe that the onus should be on others to make sure things are handled for them, while some believe that onus is on themselves to make sure they are getting what they want.

It's a paradigm dichotomy of where that onus should be placed -- where accountability and responsibility should be placed. For some, they want all taken care of for them. For others, they prefer to do what they need to do the make sure all is taken care of for them thereby preferring to rely on themselves than others. This can be (but won't here due to terms of service) extrapolated to the greater world and how it should be structured. We watch this occurring in many different ways by many different people every hour of every day.

Not saying which way is right or wrong. Maybe both are right and both are wrong in different ways and situations. I'm just pointing out what that bifurcation on an individual level does as to forming our perspectives on many things great and small.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

It's all about the seats............ EL Tigre is the best seats made.....look up on internet..
not manufacturers so called premium or luxury seats......save your ass and check the internet....electric motors will last for 20 years, gas good for 5, before issues, too many moving parts, just look at all the used gas for sale, usually 4-5 years old, passing the problems on, gas too loud, electric can hear yourself think and talk to passenger...........you are on the right track, just not Yamaha, like I said, they have bugs to work out........

When the vast majority of golf carts sold in TV are Gas, the vast majority of resales will also be gas...

And I don't know where you got this "only good for 5 years" nonsense...

There are hundreds, if not thousands of older carts still providing reliable service...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I think that one BIG factor in GAS carts wearing out fast is that people jack up their speed controller and drive around at 30 MPH. I can hear those that have changed their speed controller because you can hear that they are louder. And you can smell the excess unburned gasoline. I don't understand why the Police don't hand out tickets and control this speeding? Anyone buying an older gas Golf Cart needs to be sure that the owner has NOT fiddled with the accelerator.

Except the DON'T wear out fast...